Iona extends Cluess through 2017

Wrong. No because Dunlap isnt the finisher on the recruiting circuit needed as a head coach.

The young hotshot is already in play so I hear
 
Smart move by Iona
This guy can coach and recruit
Hope for Iona's sake that there's a large buyout clause in his new contract
Big time schools will be eyeing him in the near future
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He won't be leaving the metropolitan area.
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I agree, he'll be the Rutgers coach after next Season when Rice leaves for a bigger program.
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That is an interesting view point.
 
Smart move by Iona
This guy can coach and recruit
Hope for Iona's sake that there's a large buyout clause in his new contract
Big time schools will be eyeing him in the near future
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He won't be leaving the metropolitan area.
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I agree, he'll be the Rutgers coach after next Season when Rice leaves for a bigger program.
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Let's hope coach Cluess is as popular next year after Glover and Machado are gone :sob:
As for coach Rice, aside from upsetting a couple of good teams at home, I recommend everyone chill and look at RU's overall record this year. I am underwhelmed.
As far as hot young coaches in the NY metro area (after Lav who is 47!!), the Hurley Brothers Band will be selling out some bigger venues very soon.
 
Lets hope that St.John's alum Mr. Cluess gets the opportunity to move to the Big East or other major conference.

That having been said, few modern day coaches have enjoyed successful long term careers after moving from the mid level MAAC to the bright lights of the Big East and other BCS Conferences.

Below is a list of coaches that made the jump to the Big East or other major conference but eventually terminated.:

Pat Kennedy

Tim Walsh

Bobby Gonzalez

Fran Fraschilla

Steve Lappas

Brian Mahoney

Milke Deane

Paul Hewitt

Louis Orr

- - The possible exception is Jim Valvano but he coached a long long time ago, 32 years ago from (1975 to 1980) before continuing his career at NC State until 22 years ago. Note that even Valvano's career ended in disappointment by resigning under pressure as coach in 1990 due to a scandal related to the recruiting of Chris Washburn.

- - Another person that is not an exception to the failure rate among MAAC coaches moving up is John Beilein who did not move from Canisius College to the Big East but rather to mid level A10 University of Richmond before coaching at the Big East level West Virginia.

- - The jury is still out on the following 3 men's head coaches that are MAAC alumni coaches

Kevin Willard

Fran McCaffery

Ed Cooley 

- - Have I forgotten anyone?
 
Cluess is not an STJ alum. 
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Hofstra for his senior year. But more interesting, he coached at St. Mary's for about 10 years and sent dozens of players to college ball like Danny green.. Anyone recall if any SM player ever attended St. John's while he was coach there?
 
Cluess is not an STJ alum. 
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Hofstra for his senior year. But more interesting, he coached at St. Mary's for about 10 years and sent dozens of players to college ball like Danny green.. Anyone recall if any SM player ever attended St. John's while he was coach there?
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I don't think he purposely steered kids away. At least one was too good for us at the time, and the rest just weren't quite up to the Big East.
 
Moose,

I stand corrected; Cluess the Iona coach did not graduate from St. John's.

Has any MAAC coach ever succeeded long term after making the jump directly to a big boy conference? 
 
Moose,

I stand corrected; Cluess the Iona coach did not graduate from St. John's.

Has any MAAC coach ever succeeded long term after making the jump directly to a big boy conference? 
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I am not going to bother going through every coach you list, but unless your definition of "succeeded long term" is completely unreasonable your hypothesis is wholly unjustified by the facts. Two examples jump off of your list and their records appear below. Neither is my favorite coach, but I think their schools were very happy with their records for a long time. They have a combined 20 years coaching the Big East and the ACC, 10 20-win seasons, 9 NCAA appearances (one in the Championship Game), and sent 13 players to the pros.

Steve Lappas, Villanova:
00-01 Villanova 18-13
99-00 Villanova 20-13
98-99 Villanova 21-11, NCAA Round 1
97-98 Villanova 12-17
96-97 Villanova 24-10, NCAA Round 2
95-96 Villanova 26-7, NCAA Round 2
94-95 Villanova 25-7, NCAA Round 1
93-94 Villanova 20-12
92-93 Villanova 8-19

NBA Players Kerry Kittles, Tom Thomas, Alvin Williams, Jason Lawson, John Celestand, Michael Bradley

Paul Hewitt, Ga Tech:
10-11 Georgia Tech 13-18
09-10 Georgia Tech 23-3, NCAA Round 2
08-09 Georgia Tech 12-19
07-08 Georgia Tech 15-17
06-07 Georgia Tech 20-12, NCAA Round 1
05-06 Georgia Tech 11-17
04-05 Georgia Tech 20-12, NCAA Round 2
03-04 Georgia Tech 28-10, Lost National Championship Game
02-03 Georgia Tech 16-15
01-02 Georgia Tech 15-16
00-01 Georgia Tech 17-13, NCAA Round 1

NBA Players Chris Bosh, Jarrett Jack, Javaris Crittendon, Thaddeus Young, Gani Lawal, Derrick Favors, Iman Shumpert
 
Otis,

There has been success from the MAAC at parts of their Big Conference Career for a majority of the coaches you mentioned.

Paul Hewitt took a team to the National Championship Game, Brian Mahoney had 1 good year, Lappas was decent during the Kerry Kittles era.

Fran Frashilla brought our beloved Redmen to the NCAA's after a 5 year abscence and recruited the nucelus of the elite 8 team in 1999.

IMO Seton Hall's firing of Louis Orr after reaching the NCAA's was shortsighted.

Pat Kennedy had some succuss at Florida State with Charlie Ward and Bobby Sura.

The MAAC is a good place to get coaches, but it is very hard in this day and age for a coach to have a Boeheim, Coach K, Jim Calhoun type of career, normally it is a 5-8 year run at a school at a big conference that his its ups and then its downs.
 
 I'll even add Pat Kennedy for you, although that is going back a bit (I'm assuming you want to know how he did when he made the jump from Iona to Florida State, not exactly a basketball powerhouse before he arrived):

Pat Kennedy, Florida State

96-97 Florida State 20-12
95-96 Florida State 13-14
94-95 Florida State 12-15
93-94 Florida State 13-14
92-93 Florida State 25-10, Elite 8
91-92 Florida State 21-10, Sweet 16
90-91 Florida State 21-11, NCAA Round 2
89-90 Florida State 16-15
88-89 Florida State 22-8, NCAA Round 1
87-88 Florida State 19-11, NCAA Round 1
86-87 Florida State 19-11

NBA Players Norwood Barber, Sam Cassell, Doug Edwards, Charlie Ward, Bob Sura, and James Collins.

For those counting along at home that would give us 3 coaches you listed with the following combined stats coaching in what you call "big boy" conferences (which foolishly underrates the quality of play at the midmajor level):

Years coaching: 31
20-win seasons: 15 (plus 3 more of 18+)
NCAA Appearances: 14 (one national championship, one Elite 8, one Sweet 16)
NBA players: 19
 
Skip Prosser was a successful "big boy" conference  coach. Started at Loyola, stopped at Xavier and landed at Wake. RIP
 
 Lawmanfan,

Please read my above post. The sentence in my post which you apparently missed was

"...few modern day coaches have enjoyed successful long term careers after moving from the mid level MAAC to the bright lights of the Big East and other BCS Conferences."

No where did I say that "no" coach from the MAAC had succeeded. Therefor your above "hypothesis is wholly unjustified" (your phrase) is inapplicable.

caprice?
 
 Lawmanfan,

Please read my above post. The sentence in my post which you apparently missed was

"...few modern day coaches have enjoyed successful long term careers after moving from the mid level MAAC to the bright lights of the Big East and other BCS Conferences."

No where did I say that "no" coach from the MAAC had succeeded. Therefor your above "hypothesis is wholly unjustified" (your phrase) is inapplicable.

caprice?
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Out of your list of 9 I gave you 3 who clearly don't meet your criteria. I will give you Tim Welsh (failure) Bobby G (lunatic) and Fran Fraschilla (lunatic).

Mike Deane was 100-55 at Marquette and won more than 20 games 4 out of his 5 years there.

Louis Orr was not a bad coach. Seton Hall was a train wreck when he took that job (though not as bad as the post-Jarvii train wreck here) and he did a decent job there for 6 years. 

And Brian Mahoney actually landed the top player in the country one year and was the BE Coach of the Year one year, although obviously there is room for debate about his tenure. Anyway i would not count him as a MAAC Coach, he was long removed from that before he got the SJU job.

It seems to me that probably half of the MAAC coaches were very good bets going to the next level, which is a pretty darn good batting average.
 
Mike Deane was 100-55 at Marquette and won more than 20 games 4 out of his 5 years there.
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But I don't think Deane coached them when they were in BCS conference
 
 terrible loss. Dominated on the glass and gave up 60% from the field. Losing their 2 best players. Going to be a big fall for them. Wonder how happy momo will be next year. Will get his shots
 
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