Greg St. Jean

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redmen4life

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Serious Question: If Jon Scheyer is on the 'list' why not GSJ?

I mean, he'd certainly help retain our key players, knows the school, he's hungry, seems to connect with the players... just mandate that he surrounds himself with experienced coaches...

I think he'd be good.
 
Doesn't make sense since he was basically head coach these past few years.
 
[quote="redmen4life" post=339509]Serious Question: If Jon Scheyer is on the 'list' why not GSJ?

I mean, he'd certainly help retain our key players, knows the school, he's hungry, seems to connect with the players... just mandate that he surrounds himself with experienced coaches...

I think he'd be good.[/quote]

C’mon I know people are generally anti duke around here but Scheyer has coached under a legend...a coaching legend.
 
[quote="Tha Kid" post=339521][quote="redmen4life" post=339509]Serious Question: If Jon Scheyer is on the 'list' why not GSJ?

I mean, he'd certainly help retain our key players, knows the school, he's hungry, seems to connect with the players... just mandate that he surrounds himself with experienced coaches...

I think he'd be good.[/quote]

C’mon I know people are generally anti duke around here but Scheyer has coached under a legend...a coaching legend.[/quote]

Sometimes that's just not enough IMO. I'd rather he pay his dues elsewhere. This hire is too damn important IMO to take a risk on Scheyer at this juncture.
 
[quote="MJDinkins" post=339526][quote="Tha Kid" post=339521][quote="redmen4life" post=339509]Serious Question: If Jon Scheyer is on the 'list' why not GSJ?

I mean, he'd certainly help retain our key players, knows the school, he's hungry, seems to connect with the players... just mandate that he surrounds himself with experienced coaches...

I think he'd be good.[/quote]

C’mon I know people are generally anti duke around here but Scheyer has coached under a legend...a coaching legend.[/quote]

Sometimes that's just not enough IMO. I'd rather he pay his dues elsewhere. This hire is too damn important IMO to take a risk on Scheyer at this juncture.[/quote]

That’s fine but my comment in this thread is about how you can’t compare GSJ to Scheyer given the differing experience. Wouldn’t you agree ?
 
[quote="Tha Kid" post=339528][quote="MJDinkins" post=339526][quote="Tha Kid" post=339521][quote="redmen4life" post=339509]Serious Question: If Jon Scheyer is on the 'list' why not GSJ?

I mean, he'd certainly help retain our key players, knows the school, he's hungry, seems to connect with the players... just mandate that he surrounds himself with experienced coaches...

I think he'd be good.[/quote]

C’mon I know people are generally anti duke around here but Scheyer has coached under a legend...a coaching legend.[/quote]

Sometimes that's just not enough IMO. I'd rather he pay his dues elsewhere. This hire is too damn important IMO to take a risk on Scheyer at this juncture.[/quote]

That’s fine but my comment in this thread is about how you can’t compare GSJ to Scheyer given the differing experience. Wouldn’t you agree ?[/quote]

Agree with you there. No doubt!
 
[quote="Adam" post=339511]Doesn't make sense since he was basically head coach these past few years.[/quote]

One last question about chris.
Jean did the x&o and did the practice drills
Mat was the only one recruiting, do what did chris actually do?
 
[quote="oldschool Redmen" post=339535][quote="Adam" post=339511]Doesn't make sense since he was basically head coach these past few years.[/quote]

One last question about chris.
Jean did the x&o and did the practice drills
Mat was the only one recruiting, do what did chris actually do?[/quote]

Stop already he's gone.
 
[quote="Tha Kid" post=339521][quote="redmen4life" post=339509]Serious Question: If Jon Scheyer is on the 'list' why not GSJ?

I mean, he'd certainly help retain our key players, knows the school, he's hungry, seems to connect with the players... just mandate that he surrounds himself with experienced coaches...

I think he'd be good.[/quote]

C’mon I know people are generally anti duke around here but Scheyer has coached under a legend...a coaching legend.[/quote]
Norm coached under Bill Self. Let's bring him back.
 
[quote="Adam" post=339511]Doesn't make sense since he was basically head coach these past few years.[/quote]

Yeah but Mullin was his top assistant.
 
Please. The Duke assistant was born on third base. He is living in the Coach K. universe. Newsman is correct about assistant coaches. This is too critical a hire to risk a Coach K assistant. I am sure he can recruit with Coach K and Cameron Indoor to close. I can't imagine anyone further from what we need. We are in dire need of a true Rainmaker and Rick P. is the only one who may be available. For once let's not fumble the hire.
 
Jesus, stop with the crap already GSJ came here to be the 2nd assistant under chris and Slice. He was thrust into the role of lead assistant once Slice was fired and still on payroll. Not his fault.

I've talked with people that have attended practices and heard they are like military drills , super organized and no time wasted.

In terms of game situations he was thrown into the fire and basically ran an offense that Chris wanted , where guys were warned if they didn't shoot when open they'd be benched.

Dome of you just can't wait to completely clean house so you can take the summer off before shitting on the next staff.

I venture to guess that at his age gsj has already accomplished than most of us. So please give him a break here. He'd be fine as a second bench assistant.

For all of you who have swooned over Marcus Hatten, or D'angelo on our bench as assistants in the near future, gsj already has a resume that would be miles ahead of either. He is put in his time and is a credible assistant
 
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[quote="redmen4life" post=339509]Serious Question: If Jon Scheyer is on the 'list' why not GSJ?

I mean, he'd certainly help retain our key players, knows the school, he's hungry, seems to connect with the players... just mandate that he surrounds himself with experienced coaches...

I think he'd be good.[/quote] where is the puke emoji
 
[quote="Beast of the East" post=339568]Jesus, stop with the crap already GSJ came here to be the 2nd assistant under chris and Slice. He was thrust into the role of lead assistant once Slice was fired and still on payroll. Not his fault.

I've talked with people that have attended practices and heard they are like military drills , super organized and no time wasted.

In terms of game situations he was thrown into the fire and basically ran an offense that Chris wanted , where guys were warned if they didn't shoot when open they'd be benched.

Dome of you just can't wait to completely clean house so you can take the summer off before shitting on the next staff.

I venture to guess that at his age gsj has already accomplished than most of us. So please give him a break here. He'd be fine as a second bench assistant.

For all of you who have swooned over Marcus Hatten, or D'angelo on our bench as assistants in the near future, gsj already has a resume that would be miles ahead of either. He is put in his time and is a credible assistant[/quote] totally understand what you are saying. The problem stems from year one Mullin doing nothing during the games and St Jean coaching. Not his fault but optics mean a lot. Also the child prodigy thing I’ll jiust relate to my biz. Saw 2 ivy leaguers who were beyond brilliant conpletey fail. Definitely debatable if they were smarter than everyone else but when you are young it takes a special personality to lead and to get people behind them and believe in them. I’ll be the first to admit starting out these people knew more than me ( barely . Lol ) but I definitely felt the pressure from them jist from mental pov. BUT they couldn’t sell ice to a Hawaiian . Their clients didn’t believe in them. I think that’s what happened with St Jean and staff. People didn’t improve so my personal opinion is they didn’t buy in
 
[quote="mjmaherjr" post=339641][quote="Beast of the East" post=339568]Jesus, stop with the crap already GSJ came here to be the 2nd assistant under chris and Slice. He was thrust into the role of lead assistant once Slice was fired and still on payroll. Not his fault.

I've talked with people that have attended practices and heard they are like military drills , super organized and no time wasted.

In terms of game situations he was thrown into the fire and basically ran an offense that Chris wanted , where guys were warned if they didn't shoot when open they'd be benched.

Dome of you just can't wait to completely clean house so you can take the summer off before shitting on the next staff.

I venture to guess that at his age gsj has already accomplished than most of us. So please give him a break here. He'd be fine as a second bench assistant.

For all of you who have swooned over Marcus Hatten, or D'angelo on our bench as assistants in the near future, gsj already has a resume that would be miles ahead of either. He is put in his time and is a credible assistant[/quote] totally understand what you are saying. The problem stems from year one Mullin doing nothing during the games and St Jean coaching. Not his fault but optics mean a lot. Also the child prodigy thing I’ll jiust relate to my biz. Saw 2 ivy leaguers who were beyond brilliant conpletey fail. Definitely debatable if they were smarter than everyone else but when you are young it takes a special personality to lead and to get people behind them and believe in them. I’ll be the first to admit starting out these people knew more than me ( barely . Lol ) but I definitely felt the pressure from them jist from mental pov. BUT they couldn’t sell ice to a Hawaiian . Their clients didn’t believe in them. I think that’s what happened with St Jean and staff. People didn’t improve so my personal opinion is they didn’t buy in[/quote]

From memory slice ran games in year one, which led to table sitting.

I just think you cant run a pro offense with college kids who need a lot more structure and direction. Plus everyone in the NBA can hit good looks from 20 feet and create their own shots. When our team played well it worked but when we didn't everyone looked lost
 
[quote="Beast of the East" post=339653][quote="mjmaherjr" post=339641][quote="Beast of the East" post=339568]Jesus, stop with the crap already GSJ came here to be the 2nd assistant under chris and Slice. He was thrust into the role of lead assistant once Slice was fired and still on payroll. Not his fault.

I've talked with people that have attended practices and heard they are like military drills , super organized and no time wasted.

In terms of game situations he was thrown into the fire and basically ran an offense that Chris wanted , where guys were warned if they didn't shoot when open they'd be benched.

Dome of you just can't wait to completely clean house so you can take the summer off before shitting on the next staff.

I venture to guess that at his age gsj has already accomplished than most of us. So please give him a break here. He'd be fine as a second bench assistant.

For all of you who have swooned over Marcus Hatten, or D'angelo on our bench as assistants in the near future, gsj already has a resume that would be miles ahead of either. He is put in his time and is a credible assistant[/quote] totally understand what you are saying. The problem stems from year one Mullin doing nothing during the games and St Jean coaching. Not his fault but optics mean a lot. Also the child prodigy thing I’ll jiust relate to my biz. Saw 2 ivy leaguers who were beyond brilliant conpletey fail. Definitely debatable if they were smarter than everyone else but when you are young it takes a special personality to lead and to get people behind them and believe in them. I’ll be the first to admit starting out these people knew more than me ( barely . Lol ) but I definitely felt the pressure from them jist from mental pov. BUT they couldn’t sell ice to a Hawaiian . Their clients didn’t believe in them. I think that’s what happened with St Jean and staff. People didn’t improve so my personal opinion is they didn’t buy in[/quote]

From memory slice ran games in year one, which led to table sitting.

I just think you cant run a pro offense with college kids who need a lot more structure and direction. Plus everyone in the NBA can hit good looks from 20 feet and create their own shots. When our team played well it worked but when we didn't everyone looked lost[/quote]

Not on Slice. Granted he was more lively than Matt but that's not saying much. Slice looked very good in his three piece suits sitting on the bench. Greg was active from Day 1 and I give him credit.
 
St. Jean has been the least of our staff to take issue with. Thrust into a role over his head, sure, but that's not on him. And I've never spoken to anyone connected with hoops who hasn't had good things to say about him. Of course he shouldn't get the HC gig, but that's a far cry from blaming him for the prior staff's warts.


[quote="Moose" post=339655][quote="Beast of the East" post=339653][quote="mjmaherjr" post=339641][quote="Beast of the East" post=339568]Jesus, stop with the crap already GSJ came here to be the 2nd assistant under chris and Slice. He was thrust into the role of lead assistant once Slice was fired and still on payroll. Not his fault.

I've talked with people that have attended practices and heard they are like military drills , super organized and no time wasted.

In terms of game situations he was thrown into the fire and basically ran an offense that Chris wanted , where guys were warned if they didn't shoot when open they'd be benched.

Dome of you just can't wait to completely clean house so you can take the summer off before shitting on the next staff.

I venture to guess that at his age gsj has already accomplished than most of us. So please give him a break here. He'd be fine as a second bench assistant.

For all of you who have swooned over Marcus Hatten, or D'angelo on our bench as assistants in the near future, gsj already has a resume that would be miles ahead of either. He is put in his time and is a credible assistant[/quote] totally understand what you are saying. The problem stems from year one Mullin doing nothing during the games and St Jean coaching. Not his fault but optics mean a lot. Also the child prodigy thing I’ll jiust relate to my biz. Saw 2 ivy leaguers who were beyond brilliant conpletey fail. Definitely debatable if they were smarter than everyone else but when you are young it takes a special personality to lead and to get people behind them and believe in them. I’ll be the first to admit starting out these people knew more than me ( barely . Lol ) but I definitely felt the pressure from them jist from mental pov. BUT they couldn’t sell ice to a Hawaiian . Their clients didn’t believe in them. I think that’s what happened with St Jean and staff. People didn’t improve so my personal opinion is they didn’t buy in[/quote]

From memory slice ran games in year one, which led to table sitting.

I just think you cant run a pro offense with college kids who need a lot more structure and direction. Plus everyone in the NBA can hit good looks from 20 feet and create their own shots. When our team played well it worked but when we didn't everyone looked lost[/quote]

Not on Slice. Granted he was more lively than Matt but that's not saying much. Slice looked very good in his three piece suits sitting on the bench. Greg was active from Day 1 and I give him credit.[/quote]
 
[quote="Moose" post=339655][quote="Beast of the East" post=339653][quote="mjmaherjr" post=339641][quote="Beast of the East" post=339568]Jesus, stop with the crap already GSJ came here to be the 2nd assistant under chris and Slice. He was thrust into the role of lead assistant once Slice was fired and still on payroll. Not his fault.

I've talked with people that have attended practices and heard they are like military drills , super organized and no time wasted.

In terms of game situations he was thrown into the fire and basically ran an offense that Chris wanted , where guys were warned if they didn't shoot when open they'd be benched.

Dome of you just can't wait to completely clean house so you can take the summer off before shitting on the next staff.

I venture to guess that at his age gsj has already accomplished than most of us. So please give him a break here. He'd be fine as a second bench assistant.

For all of you who have swooned over Marcus Hatten, or D'angelo on our bench as assistants in the near future, gsj already has a resume that would be miles ahead of either. He is put in his time and is a credible assistant[/quote] totally understand what you are saying. The problem stems from year one Mullin doing nothing during the games and St Jean coaching. Not his fault but optics mean a lot. Also the child prodigy thing I’ll jiust relate to my biz. Saw 2 ivy leaguers who were beyond brilliant conpletey fail. Definitely debatable if they were smarter than everyone else but when you are young it takes a special personality to lead and to get people behind them and believe in them. I’ll be the first to admit starting out these people knew more than me ( barely . Lol ) but I definitely felt the pressure from them jist from mental pov. BUT they couldn’t sell ice to a Hawaiian . Their clients didn’t believe in them. I think that’s what happened with St Jean and staff. People didn’t improve so my personal opinion is they didn’t buy in[/quote]

From memory slice ran games in year one, which led to table sitting.

I just think you cant run a pro offense with college kids who need a lot more structure and direction. Plus everyone in the NBA can hit good looks from 20 feet and create their own shots. When our team played well it worked but when we didn't everyone looked lost[/quote]

Not on Slice. Granted he was more lively than Matt but that's not saying much. Slice looked very good in his three piece suits sitting on the bench. Greg was active from Day 1 and I give him credit.[/quote]

He is also a terrific guy. He is doing okay and will land somewhere if not here
 
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