@Georgetown, Wed., Feb. 21, 7p, FS-1

Jack Williams said:
Dunlap I couldn't care less about right now given what I have seen lately. But I actually think Wilcher can help us win games right now. The fact that playing him helps get him more experience is just a bonus to me.

Fun fact about Wilcher - despite being used sparingly, over the last 6 weeks he's 11-21 from the field. He actually has a nice touch and takes good shots when he is in.
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Anything has to be an upgrade over Dingle at his point
 
passitback said:
Truth is Seton Hall began their comeback before the second half. I knew we were cooked going into the second half, and so did the real fans near me.

Sad and true, Pitino has shit the bed with second half adjustments. Every single team we play manages to make them. Making adjustments is a coaching concern that we should not be discussing, but here we are.

That is a bigger red flag than Pitino dragging the players in the media.
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Help me understand your comment about second half adjustments and shitting the bed. What second half adjustments should Pitino have made in the last five games when his team was leading by as much as 19 and 15 points in two of those games and only trailed Xavier by four points on the road in the sixth game? Should he have told his players not to miss foul shots, bunnies, contested three point shots when there were wide open teammates, don't bother going after 50/50 balls, don't foul, don't allow uncontested fast breaks, uncontested three point shots, etc.

Or should he have told his players to stick with the game plan and scouting report? Any light you can shed on your comments will be greatly appreciated.
 
CBA69 said:
Help me understand your comment about second half adjustments and shitting the bed. What second half adjustments should Pitino have made in the last five games when his team was leading by as much as 19 and 15 points in two of those games and only trailed Xavier by four points on the road in the sixth game? Should he have told his players not to miss foul shots, bunnies, contested three point shots when there were wide open teammates, don't bother going after 50/50 balls, don't foul, don't allow uncontested fast breaks, uncontested three point shots, etc.

Or should he have told his players to stick with the game plan and scouting report? Any light you can shed on your comments will be greatly appreciated.
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You make a good point. Why adjust when what you were doing was working? Good take
 
CBA69 said:
Help me understand your comment about second half adjustments and shitting the bed. What second half adjustments should Pitino have made in the last five games when his team was leading by as much as 19 and 15 points in two of those games and only trailed Xavier by four points on the road in the sixth game? Should he have told his players not to miss foul shots, bunnies, contested three point shots when there were wide open teammates, don't bother going after 50/50 balls, don't foul, don't allow uncontested fast breaks, uncontested three point shots, etc.

Or should he have told his players to stick with the game plan and scouting report? Any light you can shed on your comments will be greatly appreciated.
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I agree CBA, the only thing he could have told them is to play lock down Defense and we win this game. Which we all know , Rick is always preaching defense.
 
The adjustments need to be made as soon as what ever was working is no longer working. In the Seton Hall game, the Hall went on a run in the last 4-5 minutes of the first half. The lead went from 19 to 12. Right after the T on the Hall’s Coach, we only made one basket in the last 4 minutes. The Hall obviously made an adjustment at that time or just played harder on D. And it carried over in the second half as the we didn’t score until the 16 minute mark. Usually the coach who sits in the first seat is the one responsible for in game adjustments recommendations as he was the one who did the scout report. The other coaches each usually have other in game duties, like keeping track of fouls and timeouts both for SJU and the opponent and stats like who to foul in an end game situation.
Or it can be that our coaching staff DID make the proper adjustments and either our players failed to carry it out or just couldn’t physically do it. But this talk of in game adjustments is fluid and usually is made at each timeout if things are going sideways. I don’t watch as closely as many of you if we make switches on defensive assignments on players that are scoring against us.

We always had several in game asst coaches who gave useful advice. LoBalbo, Cousins, Kevin Clark, Dunlap, Richmond all did a really good job both on the court and halftime with changing things up.
 
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Alumni Hall said:
The adjustments need to be made as soon as what ever was working is no longer working. In the Seton Hall game, the Hall went on a run in the last 4-5 minutes of the first half. The lead went from 19 to 12. Right after the T on the Hall’s Coach, we only made one basket in the last 4 minutes. The Hall obviously made an adjustment at that time or just played harder on D. And it carried over in the second half as the we didn’t score until the 16 minute mark. Usually the coach who sits in the first seat is the one responsible for in game adjustments recommendations as he was the one who did the scout report. The other coaches each usually have other in game duties, like keeping track of fouls and timeouts both for SJU and the opponent and stats like who to foul in an end game situation.
Or it can be that our coaching staff DID make the proper adjustments and either our players failed to carry it out or just couldn’t physically do it. But this talk of in game adjustments is fluid and usually is made at each timeout if things are going sideways. I don’t watch as closely as many of you if we make switches on defensive assignments on players that are scoring against us.

We always had several in game asst coaches who gave useful advice. LoBalbo, Cousins, Kevin Clark, Dunlap, Richmond all did a really good job both on the court and halftime with changing things up.
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Good points but if you listen to Pitino's "inside the huddle" instructions during the game, he points out breakdowns to his players and reminds them or instructs them how to correct these breakdowns.
 
It didn't help to have Luis and Dingle bring the ball up the first three non-productive possessions of a second half that everyone in the place knew was key to keep things in hand. Richmond also had any easy two points on their first possession when he saw a flat-footed Dingle on him. I'm far from an expert but even I knew that Brady was getting his ass handed to him yet stayed in the game - even through a time out. It was not his night.

It was a key game. Why do we still see inconsistent substitutions this late in the season in a critical part of the game?
 
In the second half coach changed defenses, changed the guy guarding Richmond, tried others to get a hot hand, etc. and he kept telling them to get back on defense. The effort and execution were not there. The game changed when Sha got the T and his team started to out tough us. We gave up 37 foul shots and got outrebounded. That is on the players.
 
OLV72 said:
It didn't help to have Luis and Dingle bring the ball up the first three non-productive possessions of a second half that everyone in the place knew was key to keep things in hand. Richmond also had any easy two points on their first possession when he saw a flat-footed Dingle on him. I'm far from an expert but even I knew that Brady was getting his ass handed to him yet stayed in the game - even through a time out. It was not his night.

It was a key game. Why do we still see inconsistent substitutions this late in the season in a critical part of the game?
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Because no one has stepped up.
 
Jack Williams said:
I agree with this concept, but I also don't think sitting Wilcher is smart at this juncture. Its not like he's glaringly worse than a Jordan Dingle at this point. In fact, he's quicker than Dingle so maybe he could be useful. The fact that he is going to start next year and Dingle will be off playing pro ball god knows where, I want Sim in the game. a lot
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Coach said Wilcher playing back up pg tonite
 
Joe - I would like to see Pitino fire up his team with a timely T. I read his comments from a few weeks ago about that ploy being equal to cheating and thought it was an odd way to look at it.

Bediako was mugging Soriano off the ball during their comeback. He got away with it and it impacted the play. Do you think Hurley or Holloway would let that go without ripping the refs on behalf of their player?

I am sure Pitino went nuts on the refs in the past. It seems that it is beneath him now.
 
As we play this season out- Simeon, Brady and Zuby should be getting the lion's share of minutes. He has to get them work, keep them happy and see what he has for next season. They will only get better from it whether this season ends in NIT or some miracle Big East tournament run. Its worthless to overplay these post-grad guys now. They have no future.
 
CBA69 said:
Help me understand your comment about second half adjustments and shitting the bed. What second half adjustments should Pitino have made in the last five games when his team was leading by as much as 19 and 15 points in two of those games and only trailed Xavier by four points on the road in the sixth game? Should he have told his players not to miss foul shots, bunnies, contested three point shots when there were wide open teammates, don't bother going after 50/50 balls, don't foul, don't allow uncontested fast breaks, uncontested three point shots, etc.

Or should he have told his players to stick with the game plan and scouting report? Any light you can shed on your comments will be greatly appreciated.
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The moment the leads and momentum began to fade, adjustments needed to be made.

Let's not overthink this. We have lost the second half more often than we should have.

Why are we constantly winning the first half but losing the second half? Riddle me that...

It's a coaching issue. It's a player issue. Ultimately, blame falls on the coach.
 
Jack Williams said:
Dunlap I couldn't care less about right now given what I have seen lately. But I actually think Wilcher can help us win games right now. The fact that playing him helps get him more experience is just a bonus to me.

Fun fact about Wilcher - despite being used sparingly, over the last 6 weeks he's 11-21 from the field. He actually has a nice touch and takes good shots when he is in.
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Agree on Wilcher.

Dunlap has already played more than I think was antcipated this season. He should be able to get stronger in the off season and early on he showed flashes that he could develop into a very good three point shooter. Too early to give up on him.
 
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