Fordham, Wed. Dec. 2, (TV TBD), 570 AM

i disagree. I think it was the first time ( so far ) Mullin was Coach Mullin, and not trying to be Louie. Good teams that respect eachother and its programs play in a respectful way with sportsmanship. Leaving your starters in till the end, AND tossing up three pointers with under a minute to go up by 20+ is NOT good sportsmanship. I for one applaud COACH Mullin on the fire. St Jean has been vocal, but I like Mullin being vocal, especially when he is right. Same concerpt with manager in baseball getting thrown out of games, it fires up team. Lets see if this carries some fuel. The defense has been horrible! Johnson is so slow getting back to his man, and there ALWAYS seems to be a man wide open for a three when all our players are bunched together. Also we need to crash offensive boards more. On a positive- we are lacking a true point, and next year we have two complete studs coming in. Problem solved and Moose will be draining threes next year. Yakwe is pure and simple a future stud. Love that Mully gave him mins last night, he needs to be out there. Also a wake up for Sima on what to expect during BE play...need to be physical! Balamou looked good again. Jones played well but is limited in his skill. What the hell is going on with Williams ? need updates.....we also are missing Ellison, a big body who can handle the rock. Although this will be a rough season, we are gonna learn ALOT about these kids. Mully needs to feel more comfortable coaching like himself and teach these kids some DEFENSE!
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Lol. I like Chris, and think the program will eventually prosper, but I am allowed to question him. No one here had anything bad to say when we obliterated them by 46 points, come on now, take CM's jock strap away from your nose and grab some fresh air.
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Considering he was the face of the university and led team to Final Four I would have to think that his jockstrap is retired somewhere. At least the 1985 one anyway. Man the stories that jock strap could tell.
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Personally, I'd rather not hear them. :dry:
 
Francesa and Mad Dog unite, and of course, last night's blowout game gets brought up. So does Coach's wardrobe. No such thing as bad publicity though, I hope.
 
In 1999, Jarvis forced his team to watch U Conn celebrate their blowout in the Big East title game. The returning players didn't forget that lesson, and beat U Conn handily for the Big East title in 2000. Not much I liked about Jarvis, but I like that approach. Don't put the embarrassment on the other guy, put in on yourself, and learn from it. As for what Coach Muillin did, maybe there is more to the story. I prefer taking the loss like a man and then taking care of business next season. Mullin cursing out the Fordham coach seems out of character for Chris, unless other things were said or done during the game that pissed him off. Or maybe Chris felt like this guy was trying to make a reputation for himself by embarrassing a team coached by a hall of famer, and Chris let him know that payback's a bitch.
 
Frustrated, guys who have accomplished what Mullin has are not used to taking lumps. Going to be learning year for him too. Hopefully he doesn't get too used to getting slapped up. ;)
 
Mullin said something to their coach during the handshake.
Hopefully we find out tomorrow.
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I noticed that also, their coach had a puzzled look afterwards. A few minutes earlier, Mullin was complaining to the ref about him, maybe being out of the coaching box. As for post-game, he may have been mad about the T/O Fordham called after they went up by 19 with about a minute to go. But I'm just guessing.
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Yes, Chris called him a "f***ing a*****e" and told him that "we will kick your ass next year." This was at the handshake.
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He was clearly agitated, but I find it hard to believe he used those exact words and haven't heard it reported elsewhere.
 
There are a lot of media types that take their ax to work every day of their lives. They swing that ax aimed at our head whenever the opportunity presents itself. We have plenty of detractors that wait to throw stones at us. Maybe it jealousy, but I prefer to think it is due to plain old stupidity.
Yeah, this year we are going to get welts and worse as the year progresses, but progress it will. Then we start looking forward to next season. We will get our recruits and Coach and staff will mold them into a high quality team. The idiots will grumble and then quietly sit down and start cheering for the kids in red and white like they have been loyal followers all along. It will happen, just wait and see. Fordham will get their asses kicked whenever we play them. They will pay for last nights debacle. That is the way it is and will be.
 
Fwiw, Fordham HC will be on Michael Kay show at 5:50. Kay already referenced Mullin's supposed comments on handshake line & intent to ask Coach N about it. Slow news day. :)
 
Francesa and Mad Dog unite, and of course, last night's blowout game gets brought up. So does Coach's wardrobe. No such thing as bad publicity though, I hope.
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they reunited ? I heard Aikman on with Francessa but that was it on the way home from wk
 
Frustrated, guys who have accomplished what Mullin has are not used to taking lumps. Going to be learning year for him too. Hopefully he doesn't get too used to getting slapped up. ;)
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I don't believe that for a second - in his 12 years with the Warriors their record was 447-537 including a 20-62 year and a 26-56 year. Chis is a fierce but classy competitor. I am not saying what has been described on the board today didn't happen because I wasn't there but it will take more than a post on a message board to convince me.
 
In 1999, Jarvis forced his team to watch U Conn celebrate their blowout in the Big East title game. The returning players didn't forget that lesson, and beat U Conn handily for the Big East title in 2000. Not much I liked about Jarvis, but I like that approach. Don't put the embarrassment on the other guy, put in on yourself, and learn from it. As for what Coach Muillin did, maybe there is more to the story. I prefer taking the loss like a man and then taking care of business next season. Mullin cursing out the Fordham coach seems out of character for Chris, unless other things were said or done during the game that pissed him off. Or maybe Chris felt like this guy was trying to make a reputation for himself by embarrassing a team coached by a hall of famer, and Chris let him know that payback's a bitch.
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Excellent post. I'm glad Mullin was pissed but take it out on the practice court. I could understand if it was a top flight program not letting up and being Pissed but when you lose this bad to a perennial doormat then thats on you
 
Mullin needs to suck it up. This is bigtime college basketball, not CYO for 10 year olds. Who cares if the Fordham coach leaves his starters in or calls a timeout late in a blowout? Use it to fire up YOUR team, and stop complaining.

If a coach wants to leave his starters in during a blowout all it could do is harm his OWN team, because it increases chances for one of his starters to get injured or be involved in an altercation. Just because Neubauer left his starters in doesn't affect anything at all that Mullin is doing, so Mullin should just coach his own team and stop whining.
 
Mullin needs to suck it up. This is bigtime college basketball, not CYO for 10 year olds. Who cares if the Fordham coach leaves his starters in or calls a timeout late in a blowout? Use it to fire up YOUR team, and stop complaining.

If a coach wants to leave his starters in during a blowout all it could do is harm his OWN team, because it increases chances for one of his starters to get injured or be involved in an altercation. Just because Neubauer left his starters in doesn't affect anything at all that Mullin is doing, so Mullin should just coach his own team and stop whining.
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I am the biggest Mullin advocate on redmen.com and everyone knows it, but I also realize he is a coach in training. It's almost a good thing that he gets to learn on a team destined for nowhere. I'm really confident he will be a fine coach, an excellent coach - but he hasn't yet coached 10 games, and he is still learning.

If he fails, it won't be for lack of effort or ethic, But if he succeeds, SJU will have hit the jackpot. We all have to be a little more patient, but also not to whitewash every thing he does and every player he brings in. He'd be the first person who would want to be elevated unfairly, just as we should not trash him unfairly. But he is basically a rookie coach, learning his trade in front of thousands in the largest city in America, and shouldn't be held to a higher standard than his experience warrants.
 
Frustrated, guys who have accomplished what Mullin has are not used to taking lumps. Going to be learning year for him too. Hopefully he doesn't get too used to getting slapped up. ;)
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I don't believe that for a second - in his 12 years with the Warriors their record was 447-537 including a 20-62 year and a 26-56 year. Chis is a fierce but classy competitor. I am not saying what has been described on the board today didn't happen because I wasn't there but it will take more than a post on a message board to convince me.
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Different being the face of a struggling anything as opposed to 1 of 15.Plus he has the pressure of coming back to save program as conquering hero. I don't think this is a big deal either way and if it did happen he will learn from it.
 
There is a best way to handle those things. After a thumping in the Garden by St. Bonaventure with Coach Donovan leaving his several all american starters and his #2 ranked team in to run up a 32 point win on us some 50+ years ago, Coach Lapchick took a slow burn and asked for a promise that we will never play them again here there or anywhere, Coach was among the best true sportsmen that ever lived in basketball, (1) Donovan, on the other hand, used the game as a resume builder with the pros and left Bona the next year .
A few years later when the Big East was being built, Bonaventure was a slam dunk natural for inclusion: big market, basketball oriented, Catholic and a bus ride away. Friends of Coach Lapchick made certain that was never going to happen. Syracuse, in a much smaller market, got the nod and prospered
Although we have been matched up with Bona in the NCAA's and in an occasional tourney they have never returned to a regular schedule since that night in the late 60's in the Garden as they had in the first half of the century,. There is a price and it is still being paid.
Poor sportsmanship is just that, the worst evil in our game, It should always be responded to with passive exclusion..
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There is a best way to handle those things. After a thumping in the Garden by St. Bonaventure with Coach Donovan leaving his several all american starters and his #2 ranked team in to run up a 32 point win on us some 50+ years ago, Coach Lapchick took a slow burn and asked for a promise that we will never play them again here there or anywhere, Coach was among the best true sportsmen that ever lived in basketball, (1) Donovan, on the other hand, used the game as a resume builder with the pros and left Bona the next year .
A few years later when the Big East was being built, Bonaventure was a slam dunk natural for inclusion: big market, basketball oriented, Catholic and a bus ride away. Friends of Coach Lapchick made certain that was never going to happen. Syracuse, in a much smaller market, got the nod and prospered
Although we have been matched up with Bona in the NCAA's and in an occasional tourney they have never returned to a regular schedule since that night in the late 60's in the Garden as they had in the first half of the century,. There is a price and it is still being paid.
Poor sportsmanship is just that, the worst evil in our game, It should always be responded to with passive exclusion..
(1) LAPCHICK by Alfieri 2008
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So if someone gives you a pretty good thumping on the court fair and square good sportsmanship says never play them again and any time you can hurt them off the court do so, even when the protagonists are all long dead. That seems petty and malicious to me, but then I'm a bit of a cynic.
 
total bush league move by their hick coach. At any rate I'd rather CM keep that frustration in and just whoop their a*#es next time without the outward demonstration. Really not a big issue IMO we will put 40 on them in the not-too-distant future and they will be an afterthought
 
i really think it was leaving the starters in AND tossing up threes with under a min. classy thing to do is dibble the clock out. We dont attempt to steal and everyone shows class and sportsmanship. Thats the "right" way to play...CYO, College, or NBA. Again, Mully just let him know he wasnt happy with the way they ended it. He complimented the other team in press conference so he wasnt a sore loser, it was about the way it ended.
 
i really think it was leaving the starters in AND tossing up threes with under a min. classy thing to do is dibble the clock out. We dont attempt to steal and everyone shows class and sportsmanship. ...
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Who cares?? If the Fordham coach wants to unnecessarily leave his starters in and risk their injury, thats his business. And as for them still playing hard, that's a habit that you want to instill in your program. We all want our players to play hard until the final whistle, and the Fordham coach was trying to build a culture onto his program where they do just that. This isn't 10-year-olds playing. These guys are in college. Players feelings dont get hurt. If you don't want the opposing team to make threes or run up the score, then guard them!

As long as Mullin takes his starters out in a blowout, I don't give a crap what the other coach does. Remember when we played at Notre Dame and were getting our doors blown off and Lavin left his starters in and Dom Pointer proceeded to throw a sucker punch?? That reason, and risk of injury, is why you take your starters out. Not some archaic, soap-box nonsense about "sportsmanship."
 
There is a best way to handle those things. After a thumping in the Garden by St. Bonaventure with Coach Donovan leaving his several all american starters and his #2 ranked team in to run up a 32 point win on us some 50+ years ago, Coach Lapchick took a slow burn and asked for a promise that we will never play them again here there or anywhere, Coach was among the best true sportsmen that ever lived in basketball, (1) Donovan, on the other hand, used the game as a resume builder with the pros and left Bona the next year .
A few years later when the Big East was being built, Bonaventure was a slam dunk natural for inclusion: big market, basketball oriented, Catholic and a bus ride away. Friends of Coach Lapchick made certain that was never going to happen. Syracuse, in a much smaller market, got the nod and prospered
Although we have been matched up with Bona in the NCAA's and in an occasional tourney they have never returned to a regular schedule since that night in the late 60's in the Garden as they had in the first half of the century,. There is a price and it is still being paid.
Poor sportsmanship is just that, the worst evil in our game, It should always be responded to with passive exclusion..
(1) LAPCHICK by Alfieri 2008
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50 years ago a 32 point win was 16 possessions. Game over with 6-7 minutes to go. Very different than a 20 point win with a short 3 point shot. Actually am in agreement to run out possessions to burn clock, but I'd prefer a team hositing threes than pressing full court till the final buzzer.
 
i really think it was leaving the starters in AND tossing up threes with under a min. classy thing to do is dibble the clock out. We dont attempt to steal and everyone shows class and sportsmanship. Thats the "right" way to play...CYO, College, or NBA. Again, Mully just let him know he wasnt happy with the way they ended it. He complimented the other team in press conference so he wasnt a sore loser, it was about the way it ended.
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And I think Cappy that we would feel the same if WE were hoisting 3 pters late in the game with (us having) a large lead. Just no need to do it.
Thanks.
 
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