Extend Lavin - Yes or No?

I know he didn't shoot many but in conference play PGIII had the highest 3ptFG% of anyone not on Creighton. Just saying as he, and the rest of the team, certainly have some potential to continue growing players. Not saying I'm expecting a lot but like every off season, I'm hopefull. Wait'll next year fellas.

If Greene is utilized properly--ie, SG, even SF--then he can do some real damage for us as a shooter. He just can't be allowed to play PG. If Jordan is off the floor, then Branch needs to playing the PG role.
 
I know he didn't shoot many but in conference play PGIII had the highest 3ptFG% of anyone not on Creighton. Just saying as he, and the rest of the team, certainly have some potential to continue growing players. Not saying I'm expecting a lot but like every off season, I'm hopefull. Wait'll next year fellas.

If Greene is utilized properly--ie, SG, even SF--then he can do some real damage for us as a shooter. He just can't be allowed to play PG. If Jordan is off the floor, then Branch needs to playing the PG role.

Only PG's stats don't support your contention. CHE shot just under 40% from the field, taking 226 shots in 32 games (7 shots per game). He also made one free throw per game, and one three per game. If he goes up to 10 shots per game (a 50% increase), unless he improves his shooting, he will make 4 per game (8 points). Throw in one FT per game, and the extra point from one of those 4 baskets per game being a three. That's 10 points per game on a 50% increase in shots. Hardly doing damage. He'd have to improve considerably to do anyt damage as an offensive player. For my money, I'd rather have Jordan taking a dozen shots per game. I do think though there points out of anyone not named Greene, Harrison, or Jordan will be hard to find on a consistent basis.
 
I know he didn't shoot many but in conference play PGIII had the highest 3ptFG% of anyone not on Creighton. Just saying as he, and the rest of the team, certainly have some potential to continue growing players. Not saying I'm expecting a lot but like every off season, I'm hopefull. Wait'll next year fellas.

If Greene is utilized properly--ie, SG, even SF--then he can do some real damage for us as a shooter. He just can't be allowed to play PG. If Jordan is off the floor, then Branch needs to playing the PG role.

Only PG's stats don't support your contention. CHE shot just under 40% from the field, taking 226 shots in 32 games (7 shots per game). He also made one free throw per game, and one three per game. If he goes up to 10 shots per game (a 50% increase), unless he improves his shooting, he will make 4 per game (8 points). Throw in one FT per game, and the extra point from one of those 4 baskets per game being a three. That's 10 points per game on a 50% increase in shots. Hardly doing damage. He'd have to improve considerably to do anyt damage as an offensive player. For my money, I'd rather have Jordan taking a dozen shots per game. I do think though there points out of anyone not named Greene, Harrison, or Jordan will be hard to find on a consistent basis.

I hear you, but I think Greene's stats were in large part a function of him trying to play the wrong role for much of his time on the court (point guard). He made more than a few high-impact shots for us last season. Properly utilized, he could be a key piece for us. He better be-- other than Harrison and Jordan there's no other consistent scorers, as you point out!
 
I know he didn't shoot many but in conference play PGIII had the highest 3ptFG% of anyone not on Creighton. Just saying as he, and the rest of the team, certainly have some potential to continue growing players. Not saying I'm expecting a lot but like every off season, I'm hopefull. Wait'll next year fellas.

If Greene is utilized properly--ie, SG, even SF--then he can do some real damage for us as a shooter. He just can't be allowed to play PG. If Jordan is off the floor, then Branch needs to playing the PG role.

Only PG's stats don't support your contention. CHE shot just under 40% from the field, taking 226 shots in 32 games (7 shots per game). He also made one free throw per game, and one three per game. If he goes up to 10 shots per game (a 50% increase), unless he improves his shooting, he will make 4 per game (8 points). Throw in one FT per game, and the extra point from one of those 4 baskets per game being a three. That's 10 points per game on a 50% increase in shots. Hardly doing damage. He'd have to improve considerably to do anyt damage as an offensive player. For my money, I'd rather have Jordan taking a dozen shots per game. I do think though there points out of anyone not named Greene, Harrison, or Jordan will be hard to find on a consistent basis.

I hear you, but I think Greene's stats were in large part a function of him trying to play the wrong role for much of his time on the court (point guard). He made more than a few high-impact shots for us last season. Properly utilized, he could be a key piece for us. He better be-- other than Harrison and Jordan there's no other consistent scorers, as you point out!

We both root for the same team, so I hope you are right, and I'm wrong. I was a big Greene supporter, especially since he played the previous season with a debilitating injury. The problem I have in projecting either Harrison or Greene as something better than we've seen is the fact that both have fattened their performances on out of conference competition, with their Big East stats lagging consistently. Only Jordan improved (significantly) his numbers as the Big East season progressed, which is a sign that his ceiling is very high coming into this season.

We will need all three to have excellent seasons, perhaps even 50 pts per game or more with a decent shooting % in order for SJU to grab an at large bid. Obekpa additionally must become a consistent force who can stay out of foul trouble and on the court. He showed signs of improvement offensively against lower competition after a freshman campaign where he was completely without skills. If Obekpa can score 8-10 points per game, and more importantly, grab 8-10 rebounds per game, then he could be the X factor. It's just hard to project that type of offensive improvement along with the rebounds.
 
Although our offense was at times anemic, the real problem with this group of players is their refusal to buy into a team concept and the committment to defense and rebounding which is really what wins. You can play with stats any which way but if there is real improvement that's where it's got to come from.
 
I hope I am wrong but I don't see Phil, D lo and Rysheed averaging a combined 50 a game. 40 -45 would be a good improvement. Terrible that after four years we are wondering if we can qualify to dance while playing in a conference that is a shade of its former great self.
That in itself speaks volumes.
 
I hope I am wrong but I don't see Phil, D lo and Rysheed averaging a combined 50 a game. 40 -45 would be a good improvement. Terrible that after four years we are wondering if we can qualify to dance while playing in a conference that is a shade of its former great self.
That in itself speaks volumes.

Agree. Obviously this is a critical year for Steve Lavin, both on the court & in replenishing roster with outstanding players from 15 group. Let's put the past aside, make some noise & get the program on a consistently competitive track. Time to step up!
 
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