Early Observations

Remember Darryl Hill before and after his knee issue? He still played, but wasn't the same player at all. Hill was tremendous prior to it. A hip injury certainly could have hampered Greene a lot. I think the kid is quite good and if healthy will be a big asset. Now we have 4 guards who are really good and all healthy. Expecting big things.
 
Phil had a bad year shooting the bad. Plain and simple. Truthfully, so did D'angelo.
I'm hoping more offensive weapons gets both of them better looks this year.
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I agree however he started the season looking real good. So perhaps the shooting/injury were related. We'll see soon.

Regarding the other comment about health not affecting shot selection and decision making that simply isn't true. When you are hampered by an injury you can't do things that you'd normally do. It affects you. You think twice about things that were previously instinct or muscle memory. And while I don't know the extent of the pain, anyone who has been in severe pain for an extended period of time will tell you that it completely changes your life. Worse maybe than the actual physical pain is your mindset, mood, clarity of thought etc. It affects how you sleep your metabolism etc etc.
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I think you misunderstood my comment, or perhaps I wasn't clear, but I agree. I was saying that I can understand why an injury could definitely have hampered Phil's shooting last year. That makes a lot of sense, and as you point out - he started the season relatively hot, so there's some evidence to back that up too.
But I don't think fans can write-off his poor shooting simply because he was 'out of position'. If he didn't produce like a true pg, and wasn't leading the offense probably... that's a viable excuse, that he was out of position. But ti doesn't hold as much water when you're discussing his shooting.
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Hopefully Phil gets out of gate well, demonstrating much better shot selection, less dribbling & more balance on jumpers. It is fair to give him some benefit of doubt re: injury, but time now to become a reliable, consistent and productive contributor.
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I hope DLO also demonstrates better shot selection. We have a much better group.So he wont have to force things. His FG % needs to go up.
 
I think this is where the deep bench could help with shot selection. DLo and PGIV probably knew if they messed up, in the last two years, there's nobody to replace them on the floor, so they're staying in the game. Now, there are guys waiting to get time so if you throw up some stupid three double covered with 20 on the shot clock, Lav could pull you, and put in a Branch or a Hooper waiting to get in the game. So hopefully the deep bench helps with shot selection.
 
I like Greene, but he did struggle a lot last year. It's like his shots looked good in the beginning of games then he tired out and his shots were all short. This is why Greene could be a DEADLY bench player. He played just too many minutes these last two years, and 8-10 mpg is perfect for Greene to be well rested so he can be a more deadly shooter from the outside.
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He played too many minutes being hurt IMHO. Were he 100% healthy I think we would have seen a more consistent player.
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But still a guy playing out of position. Now there's two actual PG's on the roster, healthy and better suited to the role than Phil. He'll have to back up DLo and take the minutes he gets there.

PS that's point guards, not Phil Greenes.
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Playing out of position? Sure, I'll give you that. Although in this day and age I don't know that any sg shouldn't be expected to be able to play some point.
But leaving that aside, playing out of position would be reason to give Phil some slack if his passing and running the offense wasn't up to snuff ... but it shouldn't excuse missing so many open shots.
Want to blame that on the injury? That I can buy. And overrall is he better playing off the ball? Probably. But playing out of position doesn't drastically effect a good shooter.
Phil had a bad year shooting the bad. Plain and simple. Truthfully, so did D'angelo.
I'm hoping more offensive weapons gets both of them better looks this year.
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I wondered too, if Greene also had eyesight problems last year? Because he never gave the ball up once to Marco, open in the corner...Maybe he didn't see him? Marco was no Mullin but,Greene must have thought he was invisible..
 
I wondered too, if Greene also had eyesight problems last year? Because he never gave the ball up once to Marco, open in the corner...Maybe he didn't see him? Marco was no Mullin but,Greene must have thought he was invisible..
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Maybe Phil thought that giving the ball to Marco would not be a good decision.
Maybe Phil was right....
 
We had such a great shooting team, why give Marco a chance ,specifically if you were as good a shooter as an injured Greene was last year.LOL
 
I wondered too, if Greene also had eyesight problems last year? Because he never gave the ball up once to Marco, open in the corner...Maybe he didn't see him? Marco was no Mullin but,Greene must have thought he was invisible..
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Maybe Phil thought that giving the ball to Marco would not be a good decision.
Maybe Phil was right....
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This happens all the time in higher level basketball. A guy gets frozen out until he proves he can play. It's disrespect and it contributes to the poor shooting of the guy neglected on offense.
 
I wondered too, if Greene also had eyesight problems last year? Because he never gave the ball up once to Marco, open in the corner...Maybe he didn't see him? Marco was no Mullin but,Greene must have thought he was invisible..
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Maybe Phil thought that giving the ball to Marco would not be a good decision.
Maybe Phil was right....
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This happens all the time in higher level basketball. A guy gets frozen out until he proves he can play. It's disrespect and it contributes to the poor shooting of the guy neglected on offense.
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Who made Phil the freezer?
 
Marco is the 11th man, at best, on this team why even bother mentioning him.
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Because they're discussing last year when he was the 8th man.
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Yes we are discussing last years team. But its more than the fact that Marco was the 8th man. He was the 8th man on a very poor shooting team. He was supposed to be one of our better shooters. That is why many outsiders are not ranking us on par to our talent. Last year we had poor shot selection ,poor passing decisions ,and a lot of long 2 point shots. That's why the Georgetown guy had us ranked so low. Nobody likes to admit it ,but many of his points made sense. We now have Whitesell sp?,so hopefully things will change. This year we have to play unselfish BB and pass to the open man, not take shots when your double teamed or low % shots.
 
Marco is the 11th man, at best, on this team why even bother mentioning him.
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Because this team goes to eleven.
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I believe virtually everything I read, and I think that is what makes me more of a selective human than someone who doesn't believe anything.
 
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