Early Observations

The rule changes themselves are actually REALLY good for the game IMO. Will raise scoring and you'll see more movement on the court because players won't be able to bump cutters off the ball and make it overly physical/ugly. It will obviously take some time for players and coaches to adjust but there needed to be more freedom of movement in NCAA basketball (and there also needs to be a shorter shot clock).

The one thing this will do that will upset some people is it will likely reduce the amount of upsets. These new rules clearly favor teams that are quicker and more athletic. There will be far less "playing games into the mud." Teams that play a good zone will definitely have an advantage (ugh, Syracuse) but then again so will teams that are loaded with athletes (ST JOHNS!! YAY!!!). With an early season foul-fest coming I also think we'll be at an advantage because we are so deep. Of course, as mentioned in an earlier post, hitting FTs will be important, but I think overall this is a positive for us vs. Wisconsin.
 
Balamou might see little to no time, but here is where I see him useful: In close games, I could see Lavin doing an offense/defense sub in sub out with D'Angelo and Felix. When we are on offense late in the game, Harrison is in. When we are on defense, he'll sub in Balamou. Coaches use this tactic late in games all the time, and I see the perfect opportunity here with D'Angleo's lack of athletic ability. Another thing that you guys aren't looking at is injuries. Sure our depth could see guys not seeing time but if people start going down these guys on the bench are gonna see time. Also, and you have touched upon this already, with the new rules guys are going to get into foul trouble, leaving these guys on the bench more oppurtunites to see time. I thought you all would look at our depth as a blessing considering we played with six guys just two years ago. Trust me, you will be thanking God for our depth this year more than you see it as a curse.
 
I look forward to many redmen.com complaining threads about our free throw shooting with the new rules.

Thank God Harrison is back because I want him at the line end of games
 
Balamou might see little to no time, but here is where I see him useful: In close games, I could see Lavin doing an offense/defense sub in sub out with D'Angelo and Felix. When we are on offense late in the game, Harrison is in. When we are on defense, he'll sub in Balamou. Coaches use this tactic late in games all the time, and I see the perfect opportunity here with D'Angleo's lack of athletic ability. Another thing that you guys aren't looking at is injuries. Sure our depth could see guys not seeing time but if people start going down these guys on the bench are gonna see time. Also, and you have touched upon this already, with the new rules guys are going to get into foul trouble, leaving these guys on the bench more oppurtunites to see time. I thought you all would look at our depth as a blessing considering we played with six guys just two years ago. Trust me, you will be thanking God for our depth this year more than you see it as a curse.
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I don't see Balamou being substituted for Harrison late in any close games.
 
The rule changes themselves are actually REALLY good for the game IMO. Will raise scoring and you'll see more movement on the court because players won't be able to bump cutters off the ball and make it overly physical/ugly. It will obviously take some time for players and coaches to adjust but there needed to be more freedom of movement in NCAA basketball (and there also needs to be a shorter shot clock).

The one thing this will do that will upset some people is it will likely reduce the amount of upsets. These new rules clearly favor teams that are quicker and more athletic. There will be far less "playing games into the mud." Teams that play a good zone will definitely have an advantage (ugh, Syracuse) but then again so will teams that are loaded with athletes (ST JOHNS!! YAY!!!). With an early season foul-fest coming I also think we'll be at an advantage because we are so deep. Of course, as mentioned in an earlier post, hitting FTs will be important, but I think overall this is a positive for us vs. Wisconsin.
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Agree about Wis but not that it is good for the game. College basketball still has defense and coaching. The upsets and strategy having a place along side of physical prowess, are part of what is still great about college basketball. Making it NBA lite is not good for college basketball except for maybe short term TV deals and cheap stars. Obviously a lot of people like that stuff. It is fast food, plastic and cheap. Might as well be made in China. That is next in the evolution.
 
Balamou might see little to no time, but here is where I see him useful: In close games, I could see Lavin doing an offense/defense sub in sub out with D'Angelo and Felix. When we are on offense late in the game, Harrison is in. When we are on defense, he'll sub in Balamou. Coaches use this tactic late in games all the time, and I see the perfect opportunity here with D'Angleo's lack of athletic ability. Another thing that you guys aren't looking at is injuries. Sure our depth could see guys not seeing time but if people start going down these guys on the bench are gonna see time. Also, and you have touched upon this already, with the new rules guys are going to get into foul trouble, leaving these guys on the bench more oppurtunites to see time. I thought you all would look at our depth as a blessing considering we played with six guys just two years ago. Trust me, you will be thanking God for our depth this year more than you see it as a curse.
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Yes, injuries and foul trouble will test our depth but you forgot to mention suspensions too. :)
 
Balamou might see little to no time, but here is where I see him useful: In close games, I could see Lavin doing an offense/defense sub in sub out with D'Angelo and Felix. When we are on offense late in the game, Harrison is in. When we are on defense, he'll sub in Balamou. Coaches use this tactic late in games all the time, and I see the perfect opportunity here with D'Angleo's lack of athletic ability. Another thing that you guys aren't looking at is injuries. Sure our depth could see guys not seeing time but if people start going down these guys on the bench are gonna see time. Also, and you have touched upon this already, with the new rules guys are going to get into foul trouble, leaving these guys on the bench more oppurtunites to see time. I thought you all would look at our depth as a blessing considering we played with six guys just two years ago. Trust me, you will be thanking God for our depth this year more than you see it as a curse.
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Harrison is an every down back. I want that kid on the court every second of every game within 15 points in either direction from the final tv timeout on.
 
Balamou might see little to no time, but here is where I see him useful: In close games, I could see Lavin doing an offense/defense sub in sub out with D'Angelo and Felix. When we are on offense late in the game, Harrison is in. When we are on defense, he'll sub in Balamou. Coaches use this tactic late in games all the time, and I see the perfect opportunity here with D'Angleo's lack of athletic ability. Another thing that you guys aren't looking at is injuries. Sure our depth could see guys not seeing time but if people start going down these guys on the bench are gonna see time. Also, and you have touched upon this already, with the new rules guys are going to get into foul trouble, leaving these guys on the bench more oppurtunites to see time. I thought you all would look at our depth as a blessing considering we played with six guys just two years ago. Trust me, you will be thanking God for our depth this year more than you see it as a curse.
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Harrison is an every down back. I want that kid on the court every second of every game within 15 points in either direction from the final tv timeout on.
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does marillac have a book full of football-basketball analogy's at home or..
 
The Lawman says Pointer will find some time and nobody but me feels he's better then a guy who can find some time. He plays D, runs the floor, rebounds and busts his ass. If he don't get 23 minutes a game, this gotta be a top ten team. Don't mean to come on to strong, but I really like his game.
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Completely agree. He's not the scorer that some of the other players are, but he is one of the most complete guys out there.
 
There's probably nobody who likes Dom more than me. I agree with all of the observations about his defense and hustle.

However, he is not going to take minutes away from Jordan or Harrison in the backcourt. And Branch and Green are the obvious backups there.

He isn't going to start over Sampson or Sanchez.

So where that leaves him is in a scrum with Obekpa, Jones, Gift and Hooper for one spot in the frontcourt.

To me the real issue is whether Sanchez and Obekpa can play together, and if they can whether that is what the staff wants to do. If they both start, then that logjams Dom (along with Gift, Jones, Hooper, Bourgault).

If Sanchez and Obekpa split time at the 5, then Dom ought to start at forward and then I do think he will get 20-25 minutes.

The thing is that Obekpa and Dom are both offensive liabilities, so what I might do if I were Coach is put Pointer on the floor with Sanchez and put Hooper on the floor with Obekpa (this assumes Hooper can play at all at this level, on which the jury is out). If you put Obekpa and Dom on the floor at the same time then 40% of your lineup is no threat to score.

Having said all that I think the best starting 5 is Jordan, Harrison, Sampson, Sanchez, Obekpa. Branch and Green get 10-12 minutes backing up the guard spots, Dom gets 20 minutes backing up the frontcourt spots, Jones gets 5-7 minutes, everybody else gets spot duty.
 
There's probably nobody who likes Dom more than me. I agree with all of the observations about his defense and hustle.

However, he is not going to take minutes away from Jordan or Harrison in the backcourt. And Branch and Green are the obvious backups there.

He isn't going to start over Sampson or Sanchez.

So where that leaves him is in a scrum with Obekpa, Jones, Gift and Hooper for one spot in the frontcourt.

To me the real issue is whether Sanchez and Obekpa can play together, and if they can whether that is what the staff wants to do. If they both start, then that logjams Dom (along with Gift, Jones, Hooper, Bourgault).

If Sanchez and Obekpa split time at the 5, then Dom ought to start at forward and then I do think he will get 20-25 minutes.

The thing is that Obekpa and Dom are both offensive liabilities, so what I might do if I were Coach is put Pointer on the floor with Sanchez and put Hooper on the floor with Obekpa (this assumes Hooper can play at all at this level, on which the jury is out). If you put Obekpa and Dom on the floor at the same time then 40% of your lineup is no threat to score.

Having said all that I think the best starting 5 is Jordan, Harrison, Sampson, Sanchez, Obekpa. Branch and Green get 10-12 minutes backing up the guard spots, Dom gets 20 minutes backing up the frontcourt spots, Jones gets 5-7 minutes, everybody else gets spot duty.
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Agree with much of your analysis on the minutes breakdown here and enjoyed your recap from Friday night, thanks for posting. Aside from what he brings to the table as a player, I think the big thing for Dom is a lack of competition for his particular role. For all the talk about us recruiting long/wing/athletes, Dom might be the only player on our roster whose natural college position is small forward. His biggest competition for minutes is probably the 3 guard set (which I think we'll see a lot of). Hooper will probably see some of those minutes as well, but I don't think we'll spend a ton of time going big with Sampson/Sanchez/Obekpa, although it's a nice option to have. Unless Sampson's perimeter game has really changed, he's a (dominant) college 4.

That leaves an easy 20-25 minute opportunity for Dom each night, and that's about where we want him to be I think. Despite his offensive limitations he's one of those classic +/- guys, it seems like every time he checks out he leaves the game in a better place than when he checked in. Plus, in the event we want to go man against teams with 2 strong wings, I don't know if there is any team in the conference more equipped to deal with that than we are with Dom and Sheed. That's lockdown.

Think Branch will be much more in the 20-25 range as well. With all of the talent and athleticism we have on offense he's best suited to manage it. He plays fast but the game never speeds up for him, always in control. Perfect fit for the personnel we'll have surrounding him.
 
I'd rather have God's Gift on the floor than Jones. Jones is a freak athlete but hasn't really done much in games that weren't against lower level opponents. Gift should get the playing time this year being that he is a red shirt senior. Jones is a sophomore. I totally agree with Lawmans best starting five. Just disagree that Jones gets the minutes over GG
 
Sounds like a good problem to have. Our current team has a lot of different type of players. There's a lot of versatility on this roster and it can run a lot of different type of sets. Three guard lineup, an uptempo transitional lineup, and you can even load up with bigs in the front court.

Team has plenty of talent. Now it's up to Lavin to blend it all together.
 
There's probably nobody who likes Dom more than me. I agree with all of the observations about his defense and hustle.

However, he is not going to take minutes away from Jordan or Harrison in the backcourt. And Branch and Green are the obvious backups there.

He isn't going to start over Sampson or Sanchez.

So where that leaves him is in a scrum with Obekpa, Jones, Gift and Hooper for one spot in the frontcourt.

To me the real issue is whether Sanchez and Obekpa can play together, and if they can whether that is what the staff wants to do. If they both start, then that logjams Dom (along with Gift, Jones, Hooper, Bourgault).

If Sanchez and Obekpa split time at the 5, then Dom ought to start at forward and then I do think he will get 20-25 minutes.

The thing is that Obekpa and Dom are both offensive liabilities, so what I might do if I were Coach is put Pointer on the floor with Sanchez and put Hooper on the floor with Obekpa (this assumes Hooper can play at all at this level, on which the jury is out). If you put Obekpa and Dom on the floor at the same time then 40% of your lineup is no threat to score.

Having said all that I think the best starting 5 is Jordan, Harrison, Sampson, Sanchez, Obekpa. Branch and Green get 10-12 minutes backing up the guard spots, Dom gets 20 minutes backing up the frontcourt spots, Jones gets 5-7 minutes, everybody else gets spot duty.
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I'm with you on most points, but I wouldn't qualify Dom as a liability on offense. He's not a 20pt scorer, I know, but it's really not fair to compare him to Obekpa. Dom just isn't assertive on offense, but its not like he doesn't contribute. Tip ins, decent foul shooter, led the team in assists. His big thing is that he's not assertive, and still needs to work on his handle. But Dom is efficient, and not necessarily a liability.
 
I'm with you on most points, but I wouldn't qualify Dom as a liability on offense. He's not a 20pt scorer, I know, but it's really not fair to compare him to Obekpa. Dom just isn't assertive on offense, but its not like he doesn't contribute. Tip ins, decent foul shooter, led the team in assists. His big thing is that he's not assertive, and still needs to work on his handle. But Dom is efficient, and not necessarily a liability.
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Pointer scored 7 ppg last year on 157 FG attempts. He led the team in FG percentage by a wide margin. Greene scored 10 ppg last year on 374 FG attempts. One of those players is offensive liability, but it's not Pointer.
 
Bottom line is with 13 players and guys like Orlando and Rysheed joining the group from last year someone or some guys will get squeezed for minutes. It's inevitable and nobody should pretend it won't be the case. Could be Dom because his aggressiveness on D with new rules could lead to foul problem. Also if he struggles to put the ball in the hoop he could lose time. Same goes for Phil. I think Marco is a safe bet obviously. Where does Gift stand with Chris, Sanchez and long term Jones potential taking up front court minutes.
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Agree. The reference to potential impact of new rules is on point. Recent reports indicate some D oriented teams have struggled in scrimmages adjusting to modifications to contact allowed. I would think you will see more teams playing zone than ever.

Just saw this, which underscores the impact noted;

“@GoodmanESPN: One scrimmage this morning had 61 fouls and 86 free throws, another had 54 fouls and 68 free throws.”
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These new rules are gonna drive me crazy. Cant stand when it because a free throw match, let them play!
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If there are going to be more fouls called with the new rules then it behooves us to improve our foul shooting. Practice, practice ...
 
Bottom line is with 13 players and guys like Orlando and Rysheed joining the group from last year someone or some guys will get squeezed for minutes. It's inevitable and nobody should pretend it won't be the case. Could be Dom because his aggressiveness on D with new rules could lead to foul problem. Also if he struggles to put the ball in the hoop he could lose time. Same goes for Phil. I think Marco is a safe bet obviously. Where does Gift stand with Chris, Sanchez and long term Jones potential taking up front court minutes.
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Agree. The reference to potential impact of new rules is on point. Recent reports indicate some D oriented teams have struggled in scrimmages adjusting to modifications to contact allowed. I would think you will see more teams playing zone than ever.

Just saw this, which underscores the impact noted;

“@GoodmanESPN: One scrimmage this morning had 61 fouls and 86 free throws, another had 54 fouls and 68 free throws.”
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These new rules are gonna drive me crazy. Cant stand when it because a free throw match, let them play!
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If there are going to be more fouls called with the new rules then it behooves us to improve our foul shooting. Practice, practice ...
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Or just elect to take the ball out of bounds instead

:)
 
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