Good point. Ive always said not every recruit has to be a 4 star player. We need depth. so far we are lucky re: injuries, but the transfers have killed us. Always have to be prepared for transfers, injuries and foul trouble, and even the possibility that we may not get that many of our targeted recruits. A 3 star big body off the bench is always good to have. The 4 and 5 positions are more prone to fouling and we have had to play more timid because we have no backups at those positions.
Did they give up?
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Basketball at St. John's was DEAD. He needed to make a big splash to get it going again. We'll start seeing one filler kid a year in about two years, but we're not winning a championship with a roster full of them, which is what at times you seem to want. Norm's whole roster was filler -- did you like those results?
Ron Roberts didn't fit the staff's high-flying style. Would he have helped now? Of course, but every one of the guys on our recruiting board right now is a better high school player than Roberts.
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When you work for a corporation and they are paying you over a million a yr ( do not know exactly what coach makes) .If your producing you keep your job If not you know what happens. Its up a schools adm to set what they
.feel are success goals IMO think caoch and staff will bring us back to glory days. Some are not as patient and want success and.gratification.immediately..Think we must wait but can see their frustration.
Hate to say it but very many of Norm's recruits wound up playing pro ball as we speak. He just couldn't coach. Surely you're not going to say that the year with Lavin caused that? Please don't embarass yourself like that. As for your analysis of Roberts his frosh season has been the equal of all but Moe and Harrison. If he keeps it up he will be the next Roberts recruit that winds up playing pro ball. The guy is 6'8", shoots for a super high percentage and rebounds. And he wouldn't have been a tremendous asset? Cmon get real!
The ultimate goal is to play in the NBA. Not every professional league around the world is worth the salt to play in. Believe it or not, there are some shoddy leagues out there. Recruits like to hear "National Basketball Association." Not playing abroad. Of course, all of 'em aren't gonna make it there, but that is one of the better selling points for recruits.
Yeah, there are some many good stories about guys making a very, good living by playing professionally overseas, and I like to hear about the guys from last season playing professional ball. But, the NBA reigns supreme in the eyes of these kids (as, well as it should be).
I'm not sure everyone from last year's team playing pro right now is a pro if Norm stayed. Winning attracted a lot of attention, and Norm would not have won with those kids.
And I guess it's plausible that Ron Roberts has grown two inches since he was committed here, but he was not 6'8"at the time.
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Ron Roberts:
Freshman year -- 6.4 points, 4.7 rebounds, less than a block, assist and steal per game. (St. Joes was 11-22)
Sophomore year -- 11.3 points, 6.1 rebounds., less than a block, assist and steal per game. (St. Joes is 16-10)
Career barely 50 percent from the FT line. (Shot 47 percent as frosh).
Harkless so far as a freshman, in a tougher conference -- 16 point, 8.4 reb, 1.5 blocks, 1.5 assists, 1.5 steals.
Shooting 67 percent from the line.
Freshman year -- 6.4 points, 4.7 rebounds, less than a block, assist and steal per game. (St. Joes was 11-22)
Sophomore year -- 11.3 points, 6.1 rebounds., less than a block, assist and steal per game. (St. Joes is 16-10)
Career barely 50 percent from the FT line. (Shot 47 percent as frosh).
Harkless so far as a freshman, in a tougher conference -- 16 point, 8.4 reb, 1.5 blocks, 1.5 assists, 1.5 steals.
Shooting 67 percent from the line.