DePaul (UBS), Tue., Feb. 6, 6:30p, FS-1

[dk423]

It’s just funny cause every discussion about our at large chances are “let’s just get to 11-9 or 12-8 in conference and see what happens” and now you guys are trying to downplay an opportunity to get an easy conference win.

Weird to me. Every game is CRUCIAL to our hopes of making the tournament. This is a massive game. I know that because if we lose it out at large chances would be nearly shot

By this logic, the game against stony brook and sacred heart were also crucial since if we lost, it would really be seen as a bad loss. In that vein, I agree. But I don’t think the selection committee is going to see 10 wins as a default number to get to without context as others on the board may imply.

DePaul/georgetown are must wins to simply not have a bad loss. But they don’t build our case. Our case is built by winning more Q1 & Q2 teams.

 

[SJU Center Court]

Rick Pitino bobblehead night on Tuesday at UBS Arena. Hopefully it is precursor to demise of using UBS for BE play, no home court advantage.

100% Agree.

 

[Jack Williams]

Agreed, also Drissa was kept around because he's a "great teammate" and Ayo was brought in because he supposedly was something along the lines of the best teammate Pitino had ever seen. Don't need to use 4 scholarships on guys that can't play but are good teammates. Have walk ons or student managers for that

Hell, pay me a livable wage and I’ll hang around the team and give them compliments and high fives as much as they want

By this logic, the game against stony brook and sacred heart were also crucial since if we lost, it would really be seen as a bad loss. In that vein, I agree. But I don’t think the selection committee is going to see 10 wins as a default number to get to without context as others on the board may imply.

DePaul/georgetown are must wins to simply not have a bad loss. But they don’t build our case. Our case is built by winning more Q1 & Q2 teams.

THEY ARE. It’s why college basketball regular season is superior to the NBA regular season in my opinion. Because every game carries massive weight for P5 schools.

You are either trying to pick up a solid win for your resume, or you are trying to avoid a killer loss for your resume. Every game matters a ton.

They “build our case” by keeping “bad losses” off of our resume. This is a huge chance for us to pick up another big East win, avoid a terrible loss, and get back in the win column after a tough couple games. I’m not saying you guys need to like get all hype for this game, because obviously DePaul sucks. But I don’t get downplaying it. We need to stack wins and FAST and this is an opportunity to get the ball rolling

 

[JohnnyFan]

This is a odd game to be played at UBS. The arena drew well for Kansas, but I don't see us cracking 8K for DePaul. At that point, stay at Carnesecca.

On the other hand, I do think the Seton Hall game at UBS may work out well.

 

[Jack Williams]

If you really think about it, this one of the most important games of the season. If we are on any sort of bubble watch in March; being the team that lost to DePaul (and at “home”) will put us out of pretty much any discussion immediately

We have to win this and we can’t mess around either

It’s more of a “can’t lose” than a “must win” but it all matters just the same

 

[dk423]

I don’t think anyone disagrees with you about the importance. I just think no one is excited because DePaul is horrible & it’s a 6:30 UBS game. Nothing to gain and everything to lose

 

[ghostzapper]

Yep.

Nothing in life is guaranteed except death and taxes.

Ask Georgetown about when they came to the Garden to play St. John's in February of 2004. We had a roster filled with walk-ons due to the Pittsburgh scandal suspensions and had lost every single Big East conference game that season. Georgetown's record that season, coming into that game, was 13-8 and 4-6 in conference (sounds kind of familiar). Yet St. John's prevailed on that day 65 to 58.

Despite Joe Namath's magic, I don't believe in guarantees. Anything is possible (remember we were beaten by D2 Pace this past November the day before they beat the borough's other elite basketball power Queens College in double overtime).

That is why we play the games!

 

[IDRAFT]

By this logic, the game against stony brook and sacred heart were also crucial since if we lost, it would really be seen as a bad loss. In that vein, I agree. But I don’t think the selection committee is going to see 10 wins as a default number to get to without context as others on the board may imply.

DePaul/georgetown are must wins to simply not have a bad loss. But they don’t build our case. Our case is built by winning more Q1 & Q2 teams.

I don’t totally agree. A loss to DePaul would hurt metrics so much they would most likely need an extra Q1 to offset it. Not so with a loss to anyone else in the league (maybe also Georgetown.)

Game is easy but weirdly important because of the NCAAs funky system. But hey, lose to this team you deserve whatever it creates.

 

[Mean Gene]

We are just about plugged into going 4-0 against DePaul and G’Town and having that get us to 9 wins .
Problem is , all the other teams do too .

We are unanimous that 9 BE wins doesn’t get us to dance . So , we need to hold serve at home against SH and Creighton to get to 11 wins , which should get us in .
We can’t falter in getting those 6 wins ..

Still think with 11 we’ll need one win in the Big East Tournament. But you are right SLYFOXX we cannot slip up in those 6 games. Then hopefully, we can also steal one at Marquette or Providence.

 

[mjmaherjr]

This is a odd game to be played at UBS. The arena drew well for Kansas, but I don't see us cracking 8K for DePaul. At that point, stay at Carnesecca.

On the other hand, I do think the Seton Hall game at UBS may work out well.

Trial by error. Definitely was worth the shot to play games there Rick's first year. See what works and what doesn't and what has potential while building a winning brand.

I was shocked Hofstra didn't have more fans there when we played and I was disappointed in the crowd BUT I did see a lot of families with kids a lot more than usual

Barclays will not be part of our future

 

[dk423]

I don’t totally agree. A loss to DePaul would hurt metrics so much they would most likely need an extra Q1 to offset it. Not so with a loss to anyone else in the league (maybe also Georgetown.)

Game is easy but weirdly important because of the NCAAs funky system. But hey, lose to this team you deserve whatever it creates.

But wouldn’t you say losing to sacred heart or stony brook would also require a Q1 offset?

 

[IDRAFT]

But wouldn’t you say losing to sacred heart or stony brook would also require a Q1 offset?

Yes and fortunately they won those games. Those games were also way more important (not saying difficult) than they should be, but that’s the system. DePaul there is no choice - but I wouldn’t schedule these games. There is only downside.

 

[dk423]

Yes and fortunately they won those games. Those games were also way more important (not saying difficult) than they should be, but that’s the system. DePaul there is no choice - but I wouldn’t schedule these games. There is only downside.

Exactly, and that’s how I feel about playing DePaul & why I’m not excited at all but see it as very important. There’s only downside in our two games with them

 

[ManhattAn1]

Trial by error. Definitely was worth the shot to play games there Rick's first year. See what works and what doesn't and what has potential while building a winning brand.

I was shocked Hofstra didn't have more fans there when we played and I was disappointed in the crowd BUT I did see a lot of families with kids a lot more than usual

A lot of families at the game. If game attendance falls below CA capacity the experiment is probably over

 

[dk423]

Literally sacred heart as a higher NET than DePaul. It would’ve hurt less losing to them than DePaul

 

[Redenbacher]

This is a odd game to be played at UBS. The arena drew well for Kansas, but I don't see us cracking 8K for DePaul. At that point, stay at Carnesecca.

On the other hand, I do think the Seton Hall game at UBS may work out well.

I'll be shocked if 8k turn out for DePaul at UBS on a weekday.
Seton Hall I agree should be considerably better.

 

[mjmaherjr]

I'll be shocked if 8k turn out for DePaul at UBS on a weekday.
Seton Hall I agree should be considerably better.

we have posters here on the ticket exchange thread practically paying people to take their tix. Bucketshardy was just offered 8 beers to take 4 tickets 7th row and he's waiting for a higher beer offer

 

[dk423]

I'm honestly not even sure if I would go to the game if given a free ticket. lol

 

[monte]

Trial by error. Definitely was worth the shot to play games there Rick's first year. See what works and what doesn't and what has potential while building a winning brand.

I was shocked Hofstra didn't have more fans there when we played and I was disappointed in the crowd BUT I did see a lot of families with kids a lot more than usual

Barclays will not be part of our future

Worth a shot, not worth 3 shots. Bad decision and hopefully one they learned from.

 

[monte]

I'll be shocked if 8k turn out for DePaul at UBS on a weekday.
Seton Hall I agree should be considerably better.

Sunday night an also a terrible time for a game at UBS. Sat or Sunday afternoon much better IMO. I doubt many SH fans make the trek, and I don't expect we'll have a big turn out from our fans either.