Defensive Shortcomings

[cappy105]

I was at the game last night and all i could think of was when the old johnnies would be on defense and would slap the floor with their hands as the lock down the defense. I loved the slapping of the floor to get the team and crowd fired up. remember matty brust doing it ? Lets see D'Angelo or Phil Greene slap the floor on defense, sure to fire up CA.

 

[dee]

I've heard a great deal about how young we are, and how we need time to grow. Yes, we are mostly sophmores and freshmen, and there is no doubting that youth is a factor in our performance potentials. But for my money, the losses at the Charleston Classic go on the coaching staff...particularly the loss to Baylor. In any man's intelligent approach to this game, assessing your opponents strengths and what he does best...and the attempt to limit that, are the keys to success. I have no idea what the coaching staff was thinking about on the defensive end last sunday.
Baylor was a fine basketball team. Admittedly, it is tough to find a weakness. However, it would be clear to anyone scouting that team that the speed of their guards, the outside shooting of Heslip, and their offensive rebounding were their primary assets. Someone will have to explain to me then, how this driveway shooting kid managed to be constantly open to the tune of 29 points (It reminded me of that game we lost against St. Mary's (was it last year?), where we permitted this kid to drain open looks for the entire game (much like last sunday...that guy didn't have a game like that for the rest of the year). It's as though the coaching staff doesn't believe a hot streak can continue.
What I also saw was Harrison, Pointer, and Greene, picking up Jackson and Walton well past the top of the key, in an obvious lose-lose situation. Our guards were far too slow, compared with the Baylor guards, to manage coverage that far from the basket. The result?.... we saw the Baylor backcourt racing past them for lay-ups, 2 on 1s, and kickouts that resulted in continuous open looks. Our defense was happening out at the top of the key...their offense was happening elsewhere. Coach Drew must have been licking his chops when he saw this. I thought our kids overall, played a terrific game...in spite of the poorly conceived strategy. You couldn't have asked for more from Greene, Sampson, or Harrison. They all shot lights out. We very clearly needed to pull the defense in...with an emphasis in preventing penetration from those guards. Heslip's fine game was easily preventable...he's not a kid who makes his own shot. He's a spot up kid who runs to positions. I couldn't believe what I was seeing. If you're playing Baylor, your defense simply needs to know where this kid is...at all times.
I would also add that when you have a shot blocker like Obepka, you need to funnel the opponent down the middle. Getting beat off either wing makes no sense whatsoever.
No doubt..Baylor was a tough opponent. But I think our kids had us in position to win. A litle tactical help from the coaching staff might have been much appreciated.
I also thought that the refing in this game also didn't help. Walton and Jackson were reaching in for the entire game. Nothing...I mean nothing.. was called. I respect their aggressive style of play, but when the officials leave them to operate without consequence, you're in trouble. Add to that, a number of silly touch fouls called on SJU, and you have the distinct potential to change the outcome of a close game.

You are right on point and this is what worries me about the loss of Dunlap

 

[docbutler]

Pleased to see that you have confidence in the coaching staff. I would love to join you, except that a game like Baylor erodes that confidence for me. It's only an opinion. Allow me the courtesy of having my own, and I would be happy to respect yours.

I recalled you doing the same a couple of seasons ago, during the early stages, and it came back to bite you in the rear.

Please elaborate, MJ. Have no idea what you are talking about.

I recall you not feeling good or being high on the staff after some early season losses from a couple of seasons ago. You ended up retracting some things later in the season. The site has crashed since that particular time, so there isn't any way to view those old posts. I'm almost sure it was you.

Regardless, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I'd just be careful about stating certain things at this point in the season. I guess we all have to eat crow at some point. Some usually do it more than others (I'm not referring to you, in particular). LOL

MJ- I believe that what you are referring to, is the criticism I had for the coaching staff after the 20 point collapse at Fordham two years ago. My point was poor clock management...failing to slow tempo, increase possession time and thereby make the game shorter. There was never anything to retract my friend. Subsequently, the coaching staff had success in introducing the match up zone, which once the kids caught on, made a tremendous difference
in the way that team was playing basketball. I was pleased with the result and complemented the staff publicly as was appropriate. Their season's record speaks for itself. You'll have to forgive me, but I don't see anything there that involves eating crow. My observations regarding Fordham were exclusive to that game. It was not a permanent indictment of Steve Lavin's coaching system. So, kindly explain to me...What's your point? We come here to comment on our opinions and observations after watching the game. Why, pray tell, would I want to "be careful about stating certain things at this point"? My Baylor game observations are factually accurate from my perspective. Eating crow doesn't have anything to do with it. If you have something to say regarding any game, I would be more than happy to read it and consider it. I would, however, never consider it appropriate to warn you
about having an idea. I thought that is why we come here?

 

[jrhoops1949]

Many a poster who believe the loss of Coach Dunlap to this team will be critical.

Many poster here critical of Coach Dunlaps run the clock out half court offense last year. Genius goes back and forth on if you winning or not. Coaching staff getting feel of how kids can be best utilized, and some of the kids just trying to get a grip. Nothing to knock Coach Steve on, just a matter of time being big factor.

 

[bobre45]

Pleased to see that you have confidence in the coaching staff. I would love to join you, except that a game like Baylor erodes that confidence for me. It's only an opinion. Allow me the courtesy of having my own, and I would be happy to respect yours.

I recalled you doing the same a couple of seasons ago, during the early stages, and it came back to bite you in the rear.

Please elaborate, MJ. Have no idea what you are talking about.

I recall you not feeling good or being high on the staff after some early season losses from a couple of seasons ago. You ended up retracting some things later in the season. The site has crashed since that particular time, so there isn't any way to view those old posts. I'm almost sure it was you.

Regardless, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I'd just be careful about stating certain things at this point in the season. I guess we all have to eat crow at some point. Some usually do it more than others (I'm not referring to you, in particular). LOL

MJ- I believe that what you are referring to, is the criticism I had for the coaching staff after the 20 point collapse at Fordham two years ago. My point was poor clock management...failing to slow tempo, increase possession time and thereby make the game shorter. There was never anything to retract my friend. Subsequently, the coaching staff had success in introducing the match up zone, which once the kids caught on, made a tremendous difference
in the way that team was playing basketball. I was pleased with the result and complemented the staff publicly as was appropriate. Their season's record speaks for itself. You'll have to forgive me, but I don't see anything there that involves eating crow. My observations regarding Fordham were exclusive to that game. It was not a permanent indictment of Steve Lavin's coaching system. So, kindly explain to me...What's your point? We come here to comment on our opinions and observations after watching the game. Why, pray tell, would I want to "be careful about stating certain things at this point"? My Baylor game observations are factually accurate from my perspective. Eating crow doesn't have anything to do with it. If you have something to say regarding any game, I would be more than happy to read it and consider it. I would, however, never consider it appropriate to warn you
about having an idea. I thought that is why we come here?

Doc was not alone in questioning the Fordham strategy. Even Steve Lavin did and publically accepted the blame for the outcome of that game. My observation among others that night is that it was painful watching my man Evans sitting there with a towell over his head while the 6'7" Garces had his way all night. It was ridiculous to watch and if there was anything positive about the whole thing Sean did start to get some burn after that. Later on vs Duke he went 5 for 5 and was presented with the game ball. We were all fed the story that he didn't buy into the scheme but it turned out that he wasn't all that wrong at the time as documented by Doc. The story did have a happy ending and it was commendable that Lavin did make major adjustments with Hardy etc. that produced a good season. No matter how good a coach is keeping an open mind is a good idea with changing personnel every season. After watching Heslip, a guy who probably wouldn't make our team, beat us it should be clear that changes are necessary. We have some superior defenders but they are neutralized when the system prevails above all. Heslip would have trouble hitting double figures with Pointer or Balamou on him. I remember Thompson marking Chris and beating us as a result after we were the better team in Landover. This ain't rocket science. Even Louie rarely let a guy beat us twice.

 

[MJDinkins]

Pleased to see that you have confidence in the coaching staff. I would love to join you, except that a game like Baylor erodes that confidence for me. It's only an opinion. Allow me the courtesy of having my own, and I would be happy to respect yours.

I recalled you doing the same a couple of seasons ago, during the early stages, and it came back to bite you in the rear.

Please elaborate, MJ. Have no idea what you are talking about.

I recall you not feeling good or being high on the staff after some early season losses from a couple of seasons ago. You ended up retracting some things later in the season. The site has crashed since that particular time, so there isn't any way to view those old posts. I'm almost sure it was you.

Regardless, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I'd just be careful about stating certain things at this point in the season. I guess we all have to eat crow at some point. Some usually do it more than others (I'm not referring to you, in particular). LOL

MJ- I believe that what you are referring to, is the criticism I had for the coaching staff after the 20 point collapse at Fordham two years ago. My point was poor clock management...failing to slow tempo, increase possession time and thereby make the game shorter. There was never anything to retract my friend. Subsequently, the coaching staff had success in introducing the match up zone, which once the kids caught on, made a tremendous difference
in the way that team was playing basketball. I was pleased with the result and complemented the staff publicly as was appropriate. Their season's record speaks for itself. You'll have to forgive me, but I don't see anything there that involves eating crow. My observations regarding Fordham were exclusive to that game. It was not a permanent indictment of Steve Lavin's coaching system. So, kindly explain to me...What's your point? We come here to comment on our opinions and observations after watching the game. Why, pray tell, would I want to "be careful about stating certain things at this point"? My Baylor game observations are factually accurate from my perspective. Eating crow doesn't have anything to do with it. If you have something to say regarding any game, I would be more than happy to read it and consider it. I would, however, never consider it appropriate to warn you
about having an idea. I thought that is why we come here?

If I shall expand further, you went on and on when we were going through a rough patch early in the Big East season, and you ripped the staff in a game versus UCLA during the middle of the same season. Like I said, I don't recall everything verbatim because those posts no longer exists, but I recall you catching some flak because you seemed to display a know-it-all attitude throughout your analysis. Many times it's not what you say, it's how you say it. You were also more verbose after losses.

If you're gonna matter-of-factly and state in absoluteness, then a plate of crow is up for the serving. You have every right to your opinion. I, basically agreed with your first post in this thread. I just commented on another one of your posts in this thread, which I thought sounded like something from a couple years ago during our early season losses; early season conference skid; and, the loss to UCLA.... A bit over-the-top.

 

[bobre45]

Pleased to see that you have confidence in the coaching staff. I would love to join you, except that a game like Baylor erodes that confidence for me. It's only an opinion. Allow me the courtesy of having my own, and I would be happy to respect yours.

I recalled you doing the same a couple of seasons ago, during the early stages, and it came back to bite you in the rear.

Please elaborate, MJ. Have no idea what you are talking about.

I recall you not feeling good or being high on the staff after some early season losses from a couple of seasons ago. You ended up retracting some things later in the season. The site has crashed since that particular time, so there isn't any way to view those old posts. I'm almost sure it was you.

Regardless, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I'd just be careful about stating certain things at this point in the season. I guess we all have to eat crow at some point. Some usually do it more than others (I'm not referring to you, in particular). LOL

MJ- I believe that what you are referring to, is the criticism I had for the coaching staff after the 20 point collapse at Fordham two years ago. My point was poor clock management...failing to slow tempo, increase possession time and thereby make the game shorter. There was never anything to retract my friend. Subsequently, the coaching staff had success in introducing the match up zone, which once the kids caught on, made a tremendous difference
in the way that team was playing basketball. I was pleased with the result and complemented the staff publicly as was appropriate. Their season's record speaks for itself. You'll have to forgive me, but I don't see anything there that involves eating crow. My observations regarding Fordham were exclusive to that game. It was not a permanent indictment of Steve Lavin's coaching system. So, kindly explain to me...What's your point? We come here to comment on our opinions and observations after watching the game. Why, pray tell, would I want to "be careful about stating certain things at this point"? My Baylor game observations are factually accurate from my perspective. Eating crow doesn't have anything to do with it. If you have something to say regarding any game, I would be more than happy to read it and consider it. I would, however, never consider it appropriate to warn you
about having an idea. I thought that is why we come here?

If I shall expand further, you went on and on when we were going through a rough patch early in the Big East season, and you ripped the staff in a game versus UCLA during the middle of the same season. Like I said, I don't recall everything verbatim because those posts no longer exists, but I recall you catching some flak because you seemed to display a know-it-all attitude throughout your analysis. Many times it's not what you say, it's how you say it. You were also more verbose after losses.

If you're gonna matter-of-factly and state in absoluteness, then a plate of crow is up for the serving. You have every right to your opinion. I, basically agreed with your first post in this thread. I just commented on another one of your posts in this thread, which I thought sounded like something from a couple years ago during our early season losses; early season conference skid; and, the loss to UCLA.... A bit over-the-top.

We were dominated physically in that UCLA game by that big kid. I don't recall going off after that one. I did after the St Mary's game when that mediocre kid went for seven threes in a close game. I said the same stuff after Matt Maloney (Columbia) went for six vs Mahoney. Unfortunately this has been a recurring theme in the Lavin era, most recently in Charlotte. My son and I were also saying if the Holy Cross bigs could hit them consistently we may have had another episode the way that game was going. Fortunately Pointer and Balamou got in their face and things went our way. As always we all have different opinions. Mine is that after a guy burns us three times he should get appropriate attention all other things being relatively equal. Nobody's been allowing us repetitive open threes. What do they know that we don't? If that doesn't float your boat that's fine but you will hear from me after any single handed losses like Baylor.

 

[Section3]

Pleased to see that you have confidence in the coaching staff. I would love to join you, except that a game like Baylor erodes that confidence for me. It's only an opinion. Allow me the courtesy of having my own, and I would be happy to respect yours.

I recalled you doing the same a couple of seasons ago, during the early stages, and it came back to bite you in the rear.

Please elaborate, MJ. Have no idea what you are talking about.

I recall you not feeling good or being high on the staff after some early season losses from a couple of seasons ago. You ended up retracting some things later in the season. The site has crashed since that particular time, so there isn't any way to view those old posts. I'm almost sure it was you.

Regardless, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I'd just be careful about stating certain things at this point in the season. I guess we all have to eat crow at some point. Some usually do it more than others (I'm not referring to you, in particular). LOL

MJ- I believe that what you are referring to, is the criticism I had for the coaching staff after the 20 point collapse at Fordham two years ago. My point was poor clock management...failing to slow tempo, increase possession time and thereby make the game shorter. There was never anything to retract my friend. Subsequently, the coaching staff had success in introducing the match up zone, which once the kids caught on, made a tremendous difference
in the way that team was playing basketball. I was pleased with the result and complemented the staff publicly as was appropriate. Their season's record speaks for itself. You'll have to forgive me, but I don't see anything there that involves eating crow. My observations regarding Fordham were exclusive to that game. It was not a permanent indictment of Steve Lavin's coaching system. So, kindly explain to me...What's your point? We come here to comment on our opinions and observations after watching the game. Why, pray tell, would I want to "be careful about stating certain things at this point"? My Baylor game observations are factually accurate from my perspective. Eating crow doesn't have anything to do with it. If you have something to say regarding any game, I would be more than happy to read it and consider it. I would, however, never consider it appropriate to warn you
about having an idea. I thought that is why we come here?

If I shall expand further, you went on and on when we were going through a rough patch early in the Big East season, and you ripped the staff in a game versus UCLA during the middle of the same season. Like I said, I don't recall everything verbatim because those posts no longer exists, but I recall you catching some flak because you seemed to display a know-it-all attitude throughout your analysis. Many times it's not what you say, it's how you say it. You were also more verbose after losses.

If you're gonna matter-of-factly and state in absoluteness, then a plate of crow is up for the serving. You have every right to your opinion. I, basically agreed with your first post in this thread. I just commented on another one of your posts in this thread, which I thought sounded like something from a couple years ago during our early season losses; early season conference skid; and, the loss to UCLA.... A bit over-the-top.

We were dominated physically in that UCLA game by that big kid. I don't recall going off after that one. I did after the St Mary's game when that mediocre kid went for seven threes in a close game. I said the same stuff after Matt Maloney (Columbia) went for six vs Mahoney. Unfortunately this has been a recurring theme in the Lavin era, most recently in Charlotte. My son and I were also saying if the Holy Cross bigs could hit them consistently we may have had another episode the way that game was going. Fortunately Pointer and Balamou got in their face and things went our way. As always we all have different opinions. Mine is that after a guy burns us three times he should get appropriate attention all other things being relatively equal. Nobody's been allowing us repetitive open threes. What do they know that we don't? If that doesn't float your boat that's fine but you will hear from me after any single handed losses like Baylor.

Bobre...don't mean to speak for MJ...But I don't he was responding to you...I think it was DocButler

 

[MCNPA]

It's not like Heslp hasn't done this before. He goes off with regularity. Heslip even did it in the ncaa's against Colorado last year with 9 threes. I don't think stopping him was our biggest problem. Our biggest problem was dribble penetration and their bigs out rebounding us. It led to heslip's 3's. Now we did try adjusting and going to man, but we were tired out at that point with our 4th game that week.

I think several factors contributed. First off, it's nearly impossible to prepare for that many opponents in that many days. It's really just "rest up and do what we do". At this point, I think using a 2-3 type zone would have helped us much more against Baylor. We just didn't have any time to install something like this in a crammed week. The matchup we used might not have been the best medicine. Couple that with several games in a row and we didn't have enough for a full 40 minutes.

I do think our players did a particularly poor job executing the defense though, and execution is ultimately why we lost. We were killing them in the first half when we we're executing well and had energy. Despite our shortcomings it was something like a 5 point game at the 3 minute mark and very competitive still. We collapsed after that, but I think as the season wears on and we have improved depth, conditioning and more defensive sets installed, we will be much more ready to make adjustments.

I don't think our failings were some miracle coaching adjustment we didn't make. I really think we tired out, as it was apparent at both ends of the court that we were exhausted and unable to execute.

 

[MJDinkins]

Pleased to see that you have confidence in the coaching staff. I would love to join you, except that a game like Baylor erodes that confidence for me. It's only an opinion. Allow me the courtesy of having my own, and I would be happy to respect yours.

I recalled you doing the same a couple of seasons ago, during the early stages, and it came back to bite you in the rear.

Please elaborate, MJ. Have no idea what you are talking about.

I recall you not feeling good or being high on the staff after some early season losses from a couple of seasons ago. You ended up retracting some things later in the season. The site has crashed since that particular time, so there isn't any way to view those old posts. I'm almost sure it was you.

Regardless, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I'd just be careful about stating certain things at this point in the season. I guess we all have to eat crow at some point. Some usually do it more than others (I'm not referring to you, in particular). LOL

MJ- I believe that what you are referring to, is the criticism I had for the coaching staff after the 20 point collapse at Fordham two years ago. My point was poor clock management...failing to slow tempo, increase possession time and thereby make the game shorter. There was never anything to retract my friend. Subsequently, the coaching staff had success in introducing the match up zone, which once the kids caught on, made a tremendous difference
in the way that team was playing basketball. I was pleased with the result and complemented the staff publicly as was appropriate. Their season's record speaks for itself. You'll have to forgive me, but I don't see anything there that involves eating crow. My observations regarding Fordham were exclusive to that game. It was not a permanent indictment of Steve Lavin's coaching system. So, kindly explain to me...What's your point? We come here to comment on our opinions and observations after watching the game. Why, pray tell, would I want to "be careful about stating certain things at this point"? My Baylor game observations are factually accurate from my perspective. Eating crow doesn't have anything to do with it. If you have something to say regarding any game, I would be more than happy to read it and consider it. I would, however, never consider it appropriate to warn you
about having an idea. I thought that is why we come here?

If I shall expand further, you went on and on when we were going through a rough patch early in the Big East season, and you ripped the staff in a game versus UCLA during the middle of the same season. Like I said, I don't recall everything verbatim because those posts no longer exists, but I recall you catching some flak because you seemed to display a know-it-all attitude throughout your analysis. Many times it's not what you say, it's how you say it. You were also more verbose after losses.

If you're gonna matter-of-factly and state in absoluteness, then a plate of crow is up for the serving. You have every right to your opinion. I, basically agreed with your first post in this thread. I just commented on another one of your posts in this thread, which I thought sounded like something from a couple years ago during our early season losses; early season conference skid; and, the loss to UCLA.... A bit over-the-top.

We were dominated physically in that UCLA game by that big kid. I don't recall going off after that one. I did after the St Mary's game when that mediocre kid went for seven threes in a close game. I said the same stuff after Matt Maloney (Columbia) went for six vs Mahoney. Unfortunately this has been a recurring theme in the Lavin era, most recently in Charlotte. My son and I were also saying if the Holy Cross bigs could hit them consistently we may have had another episode the way that game was going. Fortunately Pointer and Balamou got in their face and things went our way. As always we all have different opinions. Mine is that after a guy burns us three times he should get appropriate attention all other things being relatively equal. Nobody's been allowing us repetitive open threes. What do they know that we don't? If that doesn't float your boat that's fine but you will hear from me after any single handed losses like Baylor.

Matt Maloney played for Penn. Maloney wasn't some stiff, as he played 7 or 8 seasons in the NBA.

We haven't been getting open 3's, huh? If you haven't noticed I have recently stayed out of conversations with you, as you're boring, tedious, irrational, and attempt to manipulate discussions to your advantage. We have been getting open looks behind the arc. We're not particularly capitalizing. We're also doing lots of one-on-one and ISO.

Here are the 3-point%, per our opponents.

Detroit - 31%
C of C - 33%
Murray State - 33%
Baylor - 61% (heck, we actually shot 47% from behind the arc)
Holy Cross - 29%

I went and looked at G'town's opponents 3-point percentage, so far, this season.

One half versus Florida (as, the 2nd half was suspended) - 30%
Duquesne - nearly 17%
Liberty - nearly 54%
UCLA - 26%
Indiana - 59%

Some of you act like we're the only team who gives up 3-point shots. It's mainly exaggerated because some of you do not watch other teams play. I'll agree we did a poor job against Baylor, but overall we've done alright. We've even contested several of those shots, but the ball still has gone in. McCallum from Detroit actually hit a couple of his 3's from Times Square.

There were times we've done a poor job on closing out, but other times we've done fairly well. Only one particular game truly cost us per 3-point shooting, and it was against Baylor. Otherwise, that wasn't the case.

 

[MJDinkins]

Bobre...don't mean to speak for MJ...But I don't he was responding to you...I think it was DocButler

Exactly! I wasn't speaking to him, but I'm not sure he knew I wasn't speaking to him or felt the need to chime in.

 

[ras]

Many a poster who believe the loss of Coach Dunlap to this team will be critical.

Many poster here critical of Coach Dunlaps run the clock out half court offense last year. Genius goes back and forth on if you winning or not. Coaching staff getting feel of how kids can be best utilized, and some of the kids just trying to get a grip. Nothing to knock Coach Steve on, just a matter of time being big factor.

Last year was a different story. We only had 6 players,so we had to play that way. I have noticed that this team spends a lot of time passing the ball way beyond the 3 point line, which seems to result in eating clock , but not finding the open man and the net result is a forced shot at the end of the shotclock. RE: defense, the team is young and will take time to be comfortable w the systems. 2 years ago w a bunch of Srs. ,we didnt look good preseason, but by the time BE play came around we were much improved.

 

[bobre45]

Pleased to see that you have confidence in the coaching staff. I would love to join you, except that a game like Baylor erodes that confidence for me. It's only an opinion. Allow me the courtesy of having my own, and I would be happy to respect yours.

I recalled you doing the same a couple of seasons ago, during the early stages, and it came back to bite you in the rear.

Please elaborate, MJ. Have no idea what you are talking about.

I recall you not feeling good or being high on the staff after some early season losses from a couple of seasons ago. You ended up retracting some things later in the season. The site has crashed since that particular time, so there isn't any way to view those old posts. I'm almost sure it was you.

Regardless, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I'd just be careful about stating certain things at this point in the season. I guess we all have to eat crow at some point. Some usually do it more than others (I'm not referring to you, in particular). LOL

MJ- I believe that what you are referring to, is the criticism I had for the coaching staff after the 20 point collapse at Fordham two years ago. My point was poor clock management...failing to slow tempo, increase possession time and thereby make the game shorter. There was never anything to retract my friend. Subsequently, the coaching staff had success in introducing the match up zone, which once the kids caught on, made a tremendous difference
in the way that team was playing basketball. I was pleased with the result and complemented the staff publicly as was appropriate. Their season's record speaks for itself. You'll have to forgive me, but I don't see anything there that involves eating crow. My observations regarding Fordham were exclusive to that game. It was not a permanent indictment of Steve Lavin's coaching system. So, kindly explain to me...What's your point? We come here to comment on our opinions and observations after watching the game. Why, pray tell, would I want to "be careful about stating certain things at this point"? My Baylor game observations are factually accurate from my perspective. Eating crow doesn't have anything to do with it. If you have something to say regarding any game, I would be more than happy to read it and consider it. I would, however, never consider it appropriate to warn you
about having an idea. I thought that is why we come here?

If I shall expand further, you went on and on when we were going through a rough patch early in the Big East season, and you ripped the staff in a game versus UCLA during the middle of the same season. Like I said, I don't recall everything verbatim because those posts no longer exists, but I recall you catching some flak because you seemed to display a know-it-all attitude throughout your analysis. Many times it's not what you say, it's how you say it. You were also more verbose after losses.

If you're gonna matter-of-factly and state in absoluteness, then a plate of crow is up for the serving. You have every right to your opinion. I, basically agreed with your first post in this thread. I just commented on another one of your posts in this thread, which I thought sounded like something from a couple years ago during our early season losses; early season conference skid; and, the loss to UCLA.... A bit over-the-top.

We were dominated physically in that UCLA game by that big kid. I don't recall going off after that one. I did after the St Mary's game when that mediocre kid went for seven threes in a close game. I said the same stuff after Matt Maloney (Columbia) went for six vs Mahoney. Unfortunately this has been a recurring theme in the Lavin era, most recently in Charlotte. My son and I were also saying if the Holy Cross bigs could hit them consistently we may have had another episode the way that game was going. Fortunately Pointer and Balamou got in their face and things went our way. As always we all have different opinions. Mine is that after a guy burns us three times he should get appropriate attention all other things being relatively equal. Nobody's been allowing us repetitive open threes. What do they know that we don't? If that doesn't float your boat that's fine but you will hear from me after any single handed losses like Baylor.

Matt Maloney played for Penn. Maloney wasn't some stiff, as he played 7 or 8 seasons in the NBA.

We haven't been getting open 3's, huh? If you haven't noticed I have recently stayed out of conversations with you, as you're boring, tedious, irrational, and attempt to manipulate discussions to your advantage. We have been getting open looks behind the arc. We're not particularly capitalizing. We're also doing lots of one-on-one and ISO.

Here are the 3-point%, per our opponents.

Detroit - 31%
C of C - 33%
Murray State - 33%
Baylor - 61% (heck, we actually shot 47% from behind the arc)
Holy Cross - 29%

I went and looked at G'town's opponents 3-point percentage, so far, this season.

One half versus Florida (as, the 2nd half was suspended) - 30%
Duquesne - nearly 17%
Liberty - nearly 54%
UCLA - 26%
Indiana - 59%

Some of you act like we're the only team who gives up 3-point shots. It's mainly exaggerated because some of you do not watch other teams play. I'll agree we did a poor job against Baylor, but overall we've done alright. We've even contested several of those shots, but the ball still has gone in. McCallum from Detroit actually hit a couple of his 3's from Times Square.

There were times we've done a poor job on closing out, but other times we've done fairly well. Only one particular game truly cost us per 3-point shooting, and it was against Baylor. Otherwise, that wasn't the case.

At least you figured out who you were responding to. That's a plus but I wish you would continue to spare us all the stupid exchanges. Sorry about the Matt mistake but the Mahoney story was true. So was the St Mary's allusion. Unlike you I comment on what I see at the games rather than spending my life on the Net looking for anything vaguely related to SJU. By the way, did you finally get to a game in Charlotte? If so any comment on the advantages of actually attending? Did you actually spring for a ticket? If so was it a waste of $$ as you always maintained? Do me a favor and go back to boycotting my posts. I get plenty of feedback from others without the insults and yours are not appreciated or warranted.

 

[Moose]

Pleased to see that you have confidence in the coaching staff. I would love to join you, except that a game like Baylor erodes that confidence for me. It's only an opinion. Allow me the courtesy of having my own, and I would be happy to respect yours.

I recalled you doing the same a couple of seasons ago, during the early stages, and it came back to bite you in the rear.

Please elaborate, MJ. Have no idea what you are talking about.

I recall you not feeling good or being high on the staff after some early season losses from a couple of seasons ago. You ended up retracting some things later in the season. The site has crashed since that particular time, so there isn't any way to view those old posts. I'm almost sure it was you.

Regardless, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I'd just be careful about stating certain things at this point in the season. I guess we all have to eat crow at some point. Some usually do it more than others (I'm not referring to you, in particular). LOL

MJ- I believe that what you are referring to, is the criticism I had for the coaching staff after the 20 point collapse at Fordham two years ago. My point was poor clock management...failing to slow tempo, increase possession time and thereby make the game shorter. There was never anything to retract my friend. Subsequently, the coaching staff had success in introducing the match up zone, which once the kids caught on, made a tremendous difference
in the way that team was playing basketball. I was pleased with the result and complemented the staff publicly as was appropriate. Their season's record speaks for itself. You'll have to forgive me, but I don't see anything there that involves eating crow. My observations regarding Fordham were exclusive to that game. It was not a permanent indictment of Steve Lavin's coaching system. So, kindly explain to me...What's your point? We come here to comment on our opinions and observations after watching the game. Why, pray tell, would I want to "be careful about stating certain things at this point"? My Baylor game observations are factually accurate from my perspective. Eating crow doesn't have anything to do with it. If you have something to say regarding any game, I would be more than happy to read it and consider it. I would, however, never consider it appropriate to warn you
about having an idea. I thought that is why we come here?

If I shall expand further, you went on and on when we were going through a rough patch early in the Big East season, and you ripped the staff in a game versus UCLA during the middle of the same season. Like I said, I don't recall everything verbatim because those posts no longer exists, but I recall you catching some flak because you seemed to display a know-it-all attitude throughout your analysis. Many times it's not what you say, it's how you say it. You were also more verbose after losses.

If you're gonna matter-of-factly and state in absoluteness, then a plate of crow is up for the serving. You have every right to your opinion. I, basically agreed with your first post in this thread. I just commented on another one of your posts in this thread, which I thought sounded like something from a couple years ago during our early season losses; early season conference skid; and, the loss to UCLA.... A bit over-the-top.

We were dominated physically in that UCLA game by that big kid. I don't recall going off after that one. I did after the St Mary's game when that mediocre kid went for seven threes in a close game. I said the same stuff after Matt Maloney (Columbia) went for six vs Mahoney. Unfortunately this has been a recurring theme in the Lavin era, most recently in Charlotte. My son and I were also saying if the Holy Cross bigs could hit them consistently we may have had another episode the way that game was going. Fortunately Pointer and Balamou got in their face and things went our way. As always we all have different opinions. Mine is that after a guy burns us three times he should get appropriate attention all other things being relatively equal. Nobody's been allowing us repetitive open threes. What do they know that we don't? If that doesn't float your boat that's fine but you will hear from me after any single handed losses like Baylor.

Matt Maloney played for Penn. Maloney wasn't some stiff, as he played 7 or 8 seasons in the NBA.

We haven't been getting open 3's, huh? If you haven't noticed I have recently stayed out of conversations with you, as you're boring, tedious, irrational, and attempt to manipulate discussions to your advantage. We have been getting open looks behind the arc. We're not particularly capitalizing. We're also doing lots of one-on-one and ISO.

Here are the 3-point%, per our opponents.

Detroit - 31%
C of C - 33%
Murray State - 33%
Baylor - 61% (heck, we actually shot 47% from behind the arc)
Holy Cross - 29%

I went and looked at G'town's opponents 3-point percentage, so far, this season.

One half versus Florida (as, the 2nd half was suspended) - 30%
Duquesne - nearly 17%
Liberty - nearly 54%
UCLA - 26%
Indiana - 59%

Some of you act like we're the only team who gives up 3-point shots. It's mainly exaggerated because some of you do not watch other teams play. I'll agree we did a poor job against Baylor, but overall we've done alright. We've even contested several of those shots, but the ball still has gone in. McCallum from Detroit actually hit a couple of his 3's from Times Square.

There were times we've done a poor job on closing out, but other times we've done fairly well. Only one particular game truly cost us per 3-point shooting, and it was against Baylor. Otherwise, that wasn't the case.

At least you figured out who you were responding to. That's a plus but I wish you would continue to spare us all the stupid exchanges. Sorry about the Matt mistake but the Mahoney story was true. So was the St Mary's allusion. Unlike you I comment on what I see at the games rather than spending my life on the Net looking for anything vaguely related to SJU. By the way, did you finally get to a game in Charlotte? If so any comment on the advantages of actually attending? Did you actually spring for a ticket? If so was it a waste of $$ as you always maintained? Do me a favor and go back to boycotting my posts. I get plenty of feedback from others without the insults and yours are not appreciated or warranted.

When are you going to realize we played in Charleston not Charlotte?

 

[MJDinkins]

At least you figured out who you were responding to. That's a plus but I wish you would continue to spare us all the stupid exchanges. Sorry about the Matt mistake but the Mahoney story was true. So was the St Mary's allusion. Unlike you I comment on what I see at the games rather than spending my life on the Net looking for anything vaguely related to SJU. By the way, did you finally get to a game in Charlotte? If so any comment on the advantages of actually attending? Did you actually spring for a ticket? If so was it a waste of $$ as you always maintained? Do me a favor and go back to boycotting my posts. I get plenty of feedback from others without the insults and yours are not appreciated or warranted.

I know who I was responding to. So, what are you talking about?

Like I stated only a half hour ago.... Manipulation of the discussion: "Unlike you I comment on what I see at the games rather than spending my life on the Net looking for anything vaguely related to SJU. By the way, did you finally get to a game in Charlotte? If so any comment on the advantages of actually attending? Did you actually spring for a ticket? If so was it a waste of $$ as you always maintained?"

This has nothing even remotely to do with the conversation. LOL

When did I ever say it was a waste of dollars? I only said, if you were gonna constantly complain about the money you're spending on the product, then you should stay at home. Stop bringing up dollars whenever they lose. No one was or is forcing you to buy a ticket. This falls in line with your other BS.

LOL You're an easy read, and a simpleton to boot. The advantages of attending (I'll play).... I, actually met Moose, traczok, and redstormrising. Good people. I wish I could say the same about you. I had a ball with some older guys (St. John's fans, as well) sitting behind me versus Murray State. They were funny, as heck. I sat only two rows behind the bench that particular game. How's that for a close-up?

I "springed" for a ticket for the Murray State game, but received a free one, per some gracious Dayton Flyer fans, for the Baylor game. Finally, Bill Murray and Hines' wife, Tichina Arnold (starred in 'Martin' and 'Everybody Hates Chris') sat only 2 rows in front of me versus Baylor.

Did I leave out anything? Oh! I never knew we played in Charlotte. I guess we were in the wrong city.

 

[bobre45]

Pleased to see that you have confidence in the coaching staff. I would love to join you, except that a game like Baylor erodes that confidence for me. It's only an opinion. Allow me the courtesy of having my own, and I would be happy to respect yours.

I recalled you doing the same a couple of seasons ago, during the early stages, and it came back to bite you in the rear.

Please elaborate, MJ. Have no idea what you are talking about.

I recall you not feeling good or being high on the staff after some early season losses from a couple of seasons ago. You ended up retracting some things later in the season. The site has crashed since that particular time, so there isn't any way to view those old posts. I'm almost sure it was you.

Regardless, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I'd just be careful about stating certain things at this point in the season. I guess we all have to eat crow at some point. Some usually do it more than others (I'm not referring to you, in particular). LOL

MJ- I believe that what you are referring to, is the criticism I had for the coaching staff after the 20 point collapse at Fordham two years ago. My point was poor clock management...failing to slow tempo, increase possession time and thereby make the game shorter. There was never anything to retract my friend. Subsequently, the coaching staff had success in introducing the match up zone, which once the kids caught on, made a tremendous difference
in the way that team was playing basketball. I was pleased with the result and complemented the staff publicly as was appropriate. Their season's record speaks for itself. You'll have to forgive me, but I don't see anything there that involves eating crow. My observations regarding Fordham were exclusive to that game. It was not a permanent indictment of Steve Lavin's coaching system. So, kindly explain to me...What's your point? We come here to comment on our opinions and observations after watching the game. Why, pray tell, would I want to "be careful about stating certain things at this point"? My Baylor game observations are factually accurate from my perspective. Eating crow doesn't have anything to do with it. If you have something to say regarding any game, I would be more than happy to read it and consider it. I would, however, never consider it appropriate to warn you
about having an idea. I thought that is why we come here?

If I shall expand further, you went on and on when we were going through a rough patch early in the Big East season, and you ripped the staff in a game versus UCLA during the middle of the same season. Like I said, I don't recall everything verbatim because those posts no longer exists, but I recall you catching some flak because you seemed to display a know-it-all attitude throughout your analysis. Many times it's not what you say, it's how you say it. You were also more verbose after losses.

If you're gonna matter-of-factly and state in absoluteness, then a plate of crow is up for the serving. You have every right to your opinion. I, basically agreed with your first post in this thread. I just commented on another one of your posts in this thread, which I thought sounded like something from a couple years ago during our early season losses; early season conference skid; and, the loss to UCLA.... A bit over-the-top.

We were dominated physically in that UCLA game by that big kid. I don't recall going off after that one. I did after the St Mary's game when that mediocre kid went for seven threes in a close game. I said the same stuff after Matt Maloney (Columbia) went for six vs Mahoney. Unfortunately this has been a recurring theme in the Lavin era, most recently in Charlotte. My son and I were also saying if the Holy Cross bigs could hit them consistently we may have had another episode the way that game was going. Fortunately Pointer and Balamou got in their face and things went our way. As always we all have different opinions. Mine is that after a guy burns us three times he should get appropriate attention all other things being relatively equal. Nobody's been allowing us repetitive open threes. What do they know that we don't? If that doesn't float your boat that's fine but you will hear from me after any single handed losses like Baylor.

Matt Maloney played for Penn. Maloney wasn't some stiff, as he played 7 or 8 seasons in the NBA.

We haven't been getting open 3's, huh? If you haven't noticed I have recently stayed out of conversations with you, as you're boring, tedious, irrational, and attempt to manipulate discussions to your advantage. We have been getting open looks behind the arc. We're not particularly capitalizing. We're also doing lots of one-on-one and ISO.

Here are the 3-point%, per our opponents.

Detroit - 31%
C of C - 33%
Murray State - 33%
Baylor - 61% (heck, we actually shot 47% from behind the arc)
Holy Cross - 29%

I went and looked at G'town's opponents 3-point percentage, so far, this season.

One half versus Florida (as, the 2nd half was suspended) - 30%
Duquesne - nearly 17%
Liberty - nearly 54%
UCLA - 26%
Indiana - 59%

Some of you act like we're the only team who gives up 3-point shots. It's mainly exaggerated because some of you do not watch other teams play. I'll agree we did a poor job against Baylor, but overall we've done alright. We've even contested several of those shots, but the ball still has gone in. McCallum from Detroit actually hit a couple of his 3's from Times Square.

There were times we've done a poor job on closing out, but other times we've done fairly well. Only one particular game truly cost us per 3-point shooting, and it was against Baylor. Otherwise, that wasn't the case.

At least you figured out who you were responding to. That's a plus but I wish you would continue to spare us all the stupid exchanges. Sorry about the Matt mistake but the Mahoney story was true. So was the St Mary's allusion. Unlike you I comment on what I see at the games rather than spending my life on the Net looking for anything vaguely related to SJU. By the way, did you finally get to a game in Charlotte? If so any comment on the advantages of actually attending? Did you actually spring for a ticket? If so was it a waste of $$ as you always maintained? Do me a favor and go back to boycotting my posts. I get plenty of feedback from others without the insults and yours are not appreciated or warranted.

When are you going to realize we played in Charleston not Charlotte?

What's the difference? Well, did you go or not?

 

[Moose]

Pleased to see that you have confidence in the coaching staff. I would love to join you, except that a game like Baylor erodes that confidence for me. It's only an opinion. Allow me the courtesy of having my own, and I would be happy to respect yours.

I recalled you doing the same a couple of seasons ago, during the early stages, and it came back to bite you in the rear.

Please elaborate, MJ. Have no idea what you are talking about.

I recall you not feeling good or being high on the staff after some early season losses from a couple of seasons ago. You ended up retracting some things later in the season. The site has crashed since that particular time, so there isn't any way to view those old posts. I'm almost sure it was you.

Regardless, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I'd just be careful about stating certain things at this point in the season. I guess we all have to eat crow at some point. Some usually do it more than others (I'm not referring to you, in particular). LOL

MJ- I believe that what you are referring to, is the criticism I had for the coaching staff after the 20 point collapse at Fordham two years ago. My point was poor clock management...failing to slow tempo, increase possession time and thereby make the game shorter. There was never anything to retract my friend. Subsequently, the coaching staff had success in introducing the match up zone, which once the kids caught on, made a tremendous difference
in the way that team was playing basketball. I was pleased with the result and complemented the staff publicly as was appropriate. Their season's record speaks for itself. You'll have to forgive me, but I don't see anything there that involves eating crow. My observations regarding Fordham were exclusive to that game. It was not a permanent indictment of Steve Lavin's coaching system. So, kindly explain to me...What's your point? We come here to comment on our opinions and observations after watching the game. Why, pray tell, would I want to "be careful about stating certain things at this point"? My Baylor game observations are factually accurate from my perspective. Eating crow doesn't have anything to do with it. If you have something to say regarding any game, I would be more than happy to read it and consider it. I would, however, never consider it appropriate to warn you
about having an idea. I thought that is why we come here?

If I shall expand further, you went on and on when we were going through a rough patch early in the Big East season, and you ripped the staff in a game versus UCLA during the middle of the same season. Like I said, I don't recall everything verbatim because those posts no longer exists, but I recall you catching some flak because you seemed to display a know-it-all attitude throughout your analysis. Many times it's not what you say, it's how you say it. You were also more verbose after losses.

If you're gonna matter-of-factly and state in absoluteness, then a plate of crow is up for the serving. You have every right to your opinion. I, basically agreed with your first post in this thread. I just commented on another one of your posts in this thread, which I thought sounded like something from a couple years ago during our early season losses; early season conference skid; and, the loss to UCLA.... A bit over-the-top.

We were dominated physically in that UCLA game by that big kid. I don't recall going off after that one. I did after the St Mary's game when that mediocre kid went for seven threes in a close game. I said the same stuff after Matt Maloney (Columbia) went for six vs Mahoney. Unfortunately this has been a recurring theme in the Lavin era, most recently in Charlotte. My son and I were also saying if the Holy Cross bigs could hit them consistently we may have had another episode the way that game was going. Fortunately Pointer and Balamou got in their face and things went our way. As always we all have different opinions. Mine is that after a guy burns us three times he should get appropriate attention all other things being relatively equal. Nobody's been allowing us repetitive open threes. What do they know that we don't? If that doesn't float your boat that's fine but you will hear from me after any single handed losses like Baylor.

Matt Maloney played for Penn. Maloney wasn't some stiff, as he played 7 or 8 seasons in the NBA.

We haven't been getting open 3's, huh? If you haven't noticed I have recently stayed out of conversations with you, as you're boring, tedious, irrational, and attempt to manipulate discussions to your advantage. We have been getting open looks behind the arc. We're not particularly capitalizing. We're also doing lots of one-on-one and ISO.

Here are the 3-point%, per our opponents.

Detroit - 31%
C of C - 33%
Murray State - 33%
Baylor - 61% (heck, we actually shot 47% from behind the arc)
Holy Cross - 29%

I went and looked at G'town's opponents 3-point percentage, so far, this season.

One half versus Florida (as, the 2nd half was suspended) - 30%
Duquesne - nearly 17%
Liberty - nearly 54%
UCLA - 26%
Indiana - 59%

Some of you act like we're the only team who gives up 3-point shots. It's mainly exaggerated because some of you do not watch other teams play. I'll agree we did a poor job against Baylor, but overall we've done alright. We've even contested several of those shots, but the ball still has gone in. McCallum from Detroit actually hit a couple of his 3's from Times Square.

There were times we've done a poor job on closing out, but other times we've done fairly well. Only one particular game truly cost us per 3-point shooting, and it was against Baylor. Otherwise, that wasn't the case.

At least you figured out who you were responding to. That's a plus but I wish you would continue to spare us all the stupid exchanges. Sorry about the Matt mistake but the Mahoney story was true. So was the St Mary's allusion. Unlike you I comment on what I see at the games rather than spending my life on the Net looking for anything vaguely related to SJU. By the way, did you finally get to a game in Charlotte? If so any comment on the advantages of actually attending? Did you actually spring for a ticket? If so was it a waste of $$ as you always maintained? Do me a favor and go back to boycotting my posts. I get plenty of feedback from others without the insults and yours are not appreciated or warranted.

When are you going to realize we played in Charleston not Charlotte?

What's the difference? Well, did you go or not?

Actually yeah I did. Do I get brownie points in your book for trekking down there?

 

[bobre45]

Pleased to see that you have confidence in the coaching staff. I would love to join you, except that a game like Baylor erodes that confidence for me. It's only an opinion. Allow me the courtesy of having my own, and I would be happy to respect yours.

I recalled you doing the same a couple of seasons ago, during the early stages, and it came back to bite you in the rear.

Please elaborate, MJ. Have no idea what you are talking about.

I recall you not feeling good or being high on the staff after some early season losses from a couple of seasons ago. You ended up retracting some things later in the season. The site has crashed since that particular time, so there isn't any way to view those old posts. I'm almost sure it was you.

Regardless, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I'd just be careful about stating certain things at this point in the season. I guess we all have to eat crow at some point. Some usually do it more than others (I'm not referring to you, in particular). LOL

MJ- I believe that what you are referring to, is the criticism I had for the coaching staff after the 20 point collapse at Fordham two years ago. My point was poor clock management...failing to slow tempo, increase possession time and thereby make the game shorter. There was never anything to retract my friend. Subsequently, the coaching staff had success in introducing the match up zone, which once the kids caught on, made a tremendous difference
in the way that team was playing basketball. I was pleased with the result and complemented the staff publicly as was appropriate. Their season's record speaks for itself. You'll have to forgive me, but I don't see anything there that involves eating crow. My observations regarding Fordham were exclusive to that game. It was not a permanent indictment of Steve Lavin's coaching system. So, kindly explain to me...What's your point? We come here to comment on our opinions and observations after watching the game. Why, pray tell, would I want to "be careful about stating certain things at this point"? My Baylor game observations are factually accurate from my perspective. Eating crow doesn't have anything to do with it. If you have something to say regarding any game, I would be more than happy to read it and consider it. I would, however, never consider it appropriate to warn you
about having an idea. I thought that is why we come here?

If I shall expand further, you went on and on when we were going through a rough patch early in the Big East season, and you ripped the staff in a game versus UCLA during the middle of the same season. Like I said, I don't recall everything verbatim because those posts no longer exists, but I recall you catching some flak because you seemed to display a know-it-all attitude throughout your analysis. Many times it's not what you say, it's how you say it. You were also more verbose after losses.

If you're gonna matter-of-factly and state in absoluteness, then a plate of crow is up for the serving. You have every right to your opinion. I, basically agreed with your first post in this thread. I just commented on another one of your posts in this thread, which I thought sounded like something from a couple years ago during our early season losses; early season conference skid; and, the loss to UCLA.... A bit over-the-top.

We were dominated physically in that UCLA game by that big kid. I don't recall going off after that one. I did after the St Mary's game when that mediocre kid went for seven threes in a close game. I said the same stuff after Matt Maloney (Columbia) went for six vs Mahoney. Unfortunately this has been a recurring theme in the Lavin era, most recently in Charlotte. My son and I were also saying if the Holy Cross bigs could hit them consistently we may have had another episode the way that game was going. Fortunately Pointer and Balamou got in their face and things went our way. As always we all have different opinions. Mine is that after a guy burns us three times he should get appropriate attention all other things being relatively equal. Nobody's been allowing us repetitive open threes. What do they know that we don't? If that doesn't float your boat that's fine but you will hear from me after any single handed losses like Baylor.

Matt Maloney played for Penn. Maloney wasn't some stiff, as he played 7 or 8 seasons in the NBA.

We haven't been getting open 3's, huh? If you haven't noticed I have recently stayed out of conversations with you, as you're boring, tedious, irrational, and attempt to manipulate discussions to your advantage. We have been getting open looks behind the arc. We're not particularly capitalizing. We're also doing lots of one-on-one and ISO.

Here are the 3-point%, per our opponents.

Detroit - 31%
C of C - 33%
Murray State - 33%
Baylor - 61% (heck, we actually shot 47% from behind the arc)
Holy Cross - 29%

I went and looked at G'town's opponents 3-point percentage, so far, this season.

One half versus Florida (as, the 2nd half was suspended) - 30%
Duquesne - nearly 17%
Liberty - nearly 54%
UCLA - 26%
Indiana - 59%

Some of you act like we're the only team who gives up 3-point shots. It's mainly exaggerated because some of you do not watch other teams play. I'll agree we did a poor job against Baylor, but overall we've done alright. We've even contested several of those shots, but the ball still has gone in. McCallum from Detroit actually hit a couple of his 3's from Times Square.

There were times we've done a poor job on closing out, but other times we've done fairly well. Only one particular game truly cost us per 3-point shooting, and it was against Baylor. Otherwise, that wasn't the case.

At least you figured out who you were responding to. That's a plus but I wish you would continue to spare us all the stupid exchanges. Sorry about the Matt mistake but the Mahoney story was true. So was the St Mary's allusion. Unlike you I comment on what I see at the games rather than spending my life on the Net looking for anything vaguely related to SJU. By the way, did you finally get to a game in Charlotte? If so any comment on the advantages of actually attending? Did you actually spring for a ticket? If so was it a waste of $$ as you always maintained? Do me a favor and go back to boycotting my posts. I get plenty of feedback from others without the insults and yours are not appreciated or warranted.

When are you going to realize we played in Charleston not Charlotte?

What's the difference? Well, did you go or not?

Sorry I missed your comment on going. First time for everything I guess. Amazing that you managed well over 2000 posts on the updayed site before actually going to a game. I don't complain about the cost and have had seasons for over 30 years. You're the guy who always said going to the games meant nothing. Has your opinion changed now? If not why did you go?

 

[Moose]

Pleased to see that you have confidence in the coaching staff. I would love to join you, except that a game like Baylor erodes that confidence for me. It's only an opinion. Allow me the courtesy of having my own, and I would be happy to respect yours.

I recalled you doing the same a couple of seasons ago, during the early stages, and it came back to bite you in the rear.

Please elaborate, MJ. Have no idea what you are talking about.

I recall you not feeling good or being high on the staff after some early season losses from a couple of seasons ago. You ended up retracting some things later in the season. The site has crashed since that particular time, so there isn't any way to view those old posts. I'm almost sure it was you.

Regardless, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I'd just be careful about stating certain things at this point in the season. I guess we all have to eat crow at some point. Some usually do it more than others (I'm not referring to you, in particular). LOL

MJ- I believe that what you are referring to, is the criticism I had for the coaching staff after the 20 point collapse at Fordham two years ago. My point was poor clock management...failing to slow tempo, increase possession time and thereby make the game shorter. There was never anything to retract my friend. Subsequently, the coaching staff had success in introducing the match up zone, which once the kids caught on, made a tremendous difference
in the way that team was playing basketball. I was pleased with the result and complemented the staff publicly as was appropriate. Their season's record speaks for itself. You'll have to forgive me, but I don't see anything there that involves eating crow. My observations regarding Fordham were exclusive to that game. It was not a permanent indictment of Steve Lavin's coaching system. So, kindly explain to me...What's your point? We come here to comment on our opinions and observations after watching the game. Why, pray tell, would I want to "be careful about stating certain things at this point"? My Baylor game observations are factually accurate from my perspective. Eating crow doesn't have anything to do with it. If you have something to say regarding any game, I would be more than happy to read it and consider it. I would, however, never consider it appropriate to warn you
about having an idea. I thought that is why we come here?

If I shall expand further, you went on and on when we were going through a rough patch early in the Big East season, and you ripped the staff in a game versus UCLA during the middle of the same season. Like I said, I don't recall everything verbatim because those posts no longer exists, but I recall you catching some flak because you seemed to display a know-it-all attitude throughout your analysis. Many times it's not what you say, it's how you say it. You were also more verbose after losses.

If you're gonna matter-of-factly and state in absoluteness, then a plate of crow is up for the serving. You have every right to your opinion. I, basically agreed with your first post in this thread. I just commented on another one of your posts in this thread, which I thought sounded like something from a couple years ago during our early season losses; early season conference skid; and, the loss to UCLA.... A bit over-the-top.

We were dominated physically in that UCLA game by that big kid. I don't recall going off after that one. I did after the St Mary's game when that mediocre kid went for seven threes in a close game. I said the same stuff after Matt Maloney (Columbia) went for six vs Mahoney. Unfortunately this has been a recurring theme in the Lavin era, most recently in Charlotte. My son and I were also saying if the Holy Cross bigs could hit them consistently we may have had another episode the way that game was going. Fortunately Pointer and Balamou got in their face and things went our way. As always we all have different opinions. Mine is that after a guy burns us three times he should get appropriate attention all other things being relatively equal. Nobody's been allowing us repetitive open threes. What do they know that we don't? If that doesn't float your boat that's fine but you will hear from me after any single handed losses like Baylor.

Matt Maloney played for Penn. Maloney wasn't some stiff, as he played 7 or 8 seasons in the NBA.

We haven't been getting open 3's, huh? If you haven't noticed I have recently stayed out of conversations with you, as you're boring, tedious, irrational, and attempt to manipulate discussions to your advantage. We have been getting open looks behind the arc. We're not particularly capitalizing. We're also doing lots of one-on-one and ISO.

Here are the 3-point%, per our opponents.

Detroit - 31%
C of C - 33%
Murray State - 33%
Baylor - 61% (heck, we actually shot 47% from behind the arc)
Holy Cross - 29%

I went and looked at G'town's opponents 3-point percentage, so far, this season.

One half versus Florida (as, the 2nd half was suspended) - 30%
Duquesne - nearly 17%
Liberty - nearly 54%
UCLA - 26%
Indiana - 59%

Some of you act like we're the only team who gives up 3-point shots. It's mainly exaggerated because some of you do not watch other teams play. I'll agree we did a poor job against Baylor, but overall we've done alright. We've even contested several of those shots, but the ball still has gone in. McCallum from Detroit actually hit a couple of his 3's from Times Square.

There were times we've done a poor job on closing out, but other times we've done fairly well. Only one particular game truly cost us per 3-point shooting, and it was against Baylor. Otherwise, that wasn't the case.

At least you figured out who you were responding to. That's a plus but I wish you would continue to spare us all the stupid exchanges. Sorry about the Matt mistake but the Mahoney story was true. So was the St Mary's allusion. Unlike you I comment on what I see at the games rather than spending my life on the Net looking for anything vaguely related to SJU. By the way, did you finally get to a game in Charlotte? If so any comment on the advantages of actually attending? Did you actually spring for a ticket? If so was it a waste of $$ as you always maintained? Do me a favor and go back to boycotting my posts. I get plenty of feedback from others without the insults and yours are not appreciated or warranted.

When are you going to realize we played in Charleston not Charlotte?

What's the difference? Well, did you go or not?

Sorry I missed your comment on going. First time for everything I guess. Amazing that you managed well over 2000 posts on the updayed site before actually going to a game. I don't complain about the cost and have had seasons for over 30 years. You're the guy who always said going to the games meant nothing. Has your opinion changed now? If not why did you go?

Funny how your responding to my post.....Oh the irony.

 

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Sorry I missed your comment on going. First time for everything I guess. Amazing that you managed well over 2000 posts on the updayed site before actually going to a game. I don't complain about the cost and have had seasons for over 30 years. You're the guy who always said going to the games meant nothing. Has your opinion changed now? If not why did you go?

Funny how your responding to my post.....Oh the irony.

I think he was referring to me, Moose LOL

You did complain about spending dollars on the team whenever they were losing. So, you can stop with the fabrication. Going to games are different when it comes to noticing things in the stands and the sideline. But, from an analyzation standpoint it doesn't make any difference if you were watching a game from Mars.

I went to the tournament because I wanted to go. Once again, you can stop with the manipulation of the discussion, and try to stick to the topic or shall I say, facts. You're right.... There is a first time for everything. I'm awaiting for you to finally make some sense.