D'Angelo Harrison Fan Club

[Marillac]

It looked to me that he tried to trip the SF player when he went down

Marillac and I will review all memberships

But Dee did came close tonight in the 2nd half to blowing a gasket. He was on the foul line and an SF player behind him was jawing at him. He was turning around and jawing back. Then when he took the FT another USF jumped right in front of him and he slapped their hand away. He still has the fire but its contained which is good for him and the team in the long run. We still need that fire. And Jordan is showing that fire too. Nice to have a backcourt like that.

he also went down in a heap with a SF player who either kicked or stepped on his head (not on purpose), DLo just got up and continued playing. I wouldn't confuse his fire with coming close to losing a gasket. He still talks trash to the other players, after he hit his first three he ran down court jawing at the dons player who was guarding him, last year he would have been gesticulating as well.

When Primo got accidentally kneeded in the balls the players were all there checking him out and as soon as they knew he was okay DLo was laughing at the situation. Primo was grinning when he got up.

I think it's interesting that Lavin has him rooming with sheed, last year it was Felix, so Lavin has enough trust to room his prize recruit with DLo.

So far this year he's been playing with fire but not letting his emotions get the best of him.

I think I could be a charter member of the club.

I thought he did a great job of maintaining his composure. I got heated at home watching that. I don't know how these kids handle it...I guess that's why I prefer football. You just have to remember the guy's # and then you get a chance to destroy him--disregarding where you were supposed to go that play--35 seconds later. But then after 12+ years of that you are supposed to try to function in a society that doesn't allow that.

 

[usguard]

That was a defensive slap

 

[REB]

I am a long-time member of the D'Lo Fan Club. Its in my posts. Nuff said.

 

[Jnaw17]

Marillac and I will review all memberships

But Dee did came close tonight in the 2nd half to blowing a gasket. He was on the foul line and an SF player behind him was jawing at him. He was turning around and jawing back. Then when he took the FT another USF jumped right in front of him and he slapped their hand away. He still has the fire but its contained which is good for him and the team in the long run. We still need that fire. And Jordan is showing that fire too. Nice to have a backcourt like that.

I think we should wait until after a loss to entertain new members. It's too easy to get behind him when he plays as good as he did last night.

Agreed. Plenty of folks on here were ready to burn his bandwagon last year, even before the suspension. However, it's great to see that he's turned it around, and that many folks on here gave him a second chance to win us over.

 

[JohnnyFan]

Wow, I am always surprised about how much D'Lo 's game is appreciated. I just can't get past the reckless shot selection and low FG%.

 

[MCNPA]

Wow, I am always surprised about how much D'Lo 's game is appreciated. I just can't get past the reckless shot selection and low FG%.

Our team had made A habit of living and dying by D'Lo's offensive output. His percentages aren't good enough because he has to take over the scoring load. Our team needs to be able to not die by D'Lo and get good offensive production even when D'Lo isn't hitting. Rysheed will be important in that transition as will Sanchez, Sampson etc.

 

[fun]

I'm not applying for membership, so that ought to leave some room on your bandwagon.

Forget the bandwagon. Someday when Phil Greene has another good game you can organize a parade and ride on one of the floats.

 

[Moose]

Wow, I am always surprised about how much D'Lo 's game is appreciated. I just can't get past the reckless shot selection and low FG%.

6 posts and 5 are about Harrison
The other one was a game Harrison was suspended from

I'm guessing an #11 SJU jersey isn't on you Christmas list

 

[SJU1512]

An ideal lead scorer gets you points efficiently. There are only so many of those guys out there. After them, at some point you have to make a determination if you want the points or the efficiency. I'll take the points. We have much better offensive balance this year, but I'm not interested in seeing what it would look like without Harrison. Having a guy who knows how to score the way he does is a luxury, and while it's certainly not going to break any efficiency records, his style helps the team in other ways. He's not a comfortable guard for opposing teams and the attention he draws opens things up for others. I see Jordan trending in that direction as well and when he gets there consistently it's going to be tough to keep both he and Harrison down in the same game.

 

[Eddyman11]

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/c...ight-st-john-routs-san-fran-article-1.1552481


D’Angelo Harrison ties record for most three-pointers in St. John’s history during rout of San Francisco
Harrison's three-point bucket brought him into a tie with Willie Shaw atop the program’s all-time list. Shaw made his 151st back in 2003, showing how long the Johnnies went without a true deep threat.



Steve Lavin first saw D’Angelo Harrison while he was recruiting during his first year as St. John’s coach. The 6-4 kid from Missouri City, Tex., went for 54 points in a game in Las Vegas as Lavin recalled. It reminded him of the parade of lethal guards Arizona used to throw at him when he was back at UCLA, a group that could hurt you inside and out.

Harrison has been just that during his three seasons the Red Storm’s leading scorer for almost his entire tenure but Wednesday night in an 81-57 rout of San Francisco at Carnesecca Arena, the outside game that complements his nose for the basket hit a milestone. Harrison went for a team-high 18 points and made two of three outside the arc. The second was his 151st, tying him for the program record with Willie Shaw, who set the mark in 2003.


Harrison’s mark comes as St. John’s (7-3) looks like it has figured out what it will take to live up to its potential. After trouncing Fordham and a near upset of No. 2 Syracuse on Sunday at the Garden, the Johnnies now are playing 40 strong minutes. The beatdown of the Dons (6-5) was a start-to-finish shellacking.

Each player spoke to the rest before the game and a consistent theme was, as Harrison said, “we have to play each game hard, play each game like a Syracuse, like it’s conference play.”

And the result? “We got it. We’re all locked in,” Harrison said.

“If it was up to me, I’d shoot all threes, but teams do a good job taking it away. Teams are not letting me shoot threes like that anymore,” Harrison said. “I like (the record) but I just want to win games.”


It is no coincidence that this is happening as heralded freshman Rysheed Jordan is beginning to flourish. He had 10 points and four assists and asserted himself from the early minutes when he scored on a drive, went coast-to-coast for a layup and found JaKarr Sampson (14 points) for a dunk all in the first five minutes. He has three straight strong outings. “He does things that change the complexion of the game at both ends of the court,” Lavin said. “We’re beginning to see Rysheed blossom and elevate his play.”

“He doesn’t think the game (any) more. He just attacks,” Harrison said. “He’s going to get better. He’s better than what he’s shown right now. The sky is the limit for this kid.”

After a 16-point loss at San Francisco last season, Chris Obekpa said the Johnnies “had to pay them back (on) our court” and they certainly did that. Harrison tied Shaw in the middle of a 17-6 run that put the Storm up 43-31 at the half. Jordan capped an 11-3 run to open the second half with a three-point play to make it 54-34. The Dons trailed by 20 or more the last 14:57.

Mark Tollefson had 14 points and Kruize Pinkis added 12 for San Francisco.

“I’m pleased about the way we pressured the ball,” Lavin said. “In a methodical and deliberate way, we did dismantle USF.”

 

[Andrew]

Keep in mind that Harrison is on pace to become St John's 3rd all time leading scorer. That would be a very impressive accomplishment. Mullin - Sealy - Harrison - Lopez

 

[beast of the east]

Keep in mind that Harrison is on pace to become St John's 3rd all time leading scorer. That would be a very impressive accomplishment. Mullin - Sealy - Harrison - Lopez

this thread was mostly related to Harrison's behavior on the court this year. But to your point, what do Flynn Robinson and Fred Carter have in common?

Answer: The both averaged 20 points per game on bad Milwaukee and Philadelphia teams, respectively. Not that our team is bad, but points don't always reflect how well a player has played, and all in all Harrison has been very inconsistent and shot poorly.

 

[Andrew]

Keep in mind that Harrison is on pace to become St John's 3rd all time leading scorer. That would be a very impressive accomplishment. Mullin - Sealy - Harrison - Lopez

this thread was mostly related to Harrison's behavior on the court this year. But to your point, what do Flynn Robinson and Fred Carter have in common?

Answer: The both averaged 20 points per game on bad Milwaukee and Philadelphia teams, respectively. Not that our team is bad, but points don't always reflect how well a player has played, and all in all Harrison has been very inconsistent and shot poorly.

To score 2000 points at the highest level of college basketball is a great accomplishment. You can make any excuse that you want.

 

[Class of 72]

Keep in mind that Harrison is on pace to become St John's 3rd all time leading scorer. That would be a very impressive accomplishment. Mullin - Sealy - Harrison - Lopez

this thread was mostly related to Harrison's behavior on the court this year. But to your point, what do Flynn Robinson and Fred Carter have in common?

Answer: The both averaged 20 points per game on bad Milwaukee and Philadelphia teams, respectively. Not that our team is bad, but points don't always reflect how well a player has played, and all in all Harrison has been very inconsistent and shot poorly.

To score 2000 points at the highest level of college basketball is a great accomplishment. You can make any excuse that you won't.

I am pretty sure Beast "won't".
But...Mullin, Sealy, G. Johnson and many others made their team better. D'Lo has a lot of points but the team has had few accomplishments thus far. I am hoping he scores many more points while the team begins to win more. Otherwise, he will be remembered in the same vein as Felipe Lopez and Zendon Hamilton.

 

[Jnaw17]

An ideal lead scorer gets you points efficiently. There are only so many of those guys out there. After them, at some point you have to make a determination if you want the points or the efficiency. I'll take the points. We have much better offensive balance this year, but I'm not interested in seeing what it would look like without Harrison. Having a guy who knows how to score the way he does is a luxury, and while it's certainly not going to break any efficiency records, his style helps the team in other ways. He's not a comfortable guard for opposing teams and the attention he draws opens things up for others. I see Jordan trending in that direction as well and when he gets there consistently it's going to be tough to keep both he and Harrison down in the same game.

I'm with you. We need the points, and we'll take the efficiency if we can get it. I also agree with those who point out that as others on the team continue to step up, teams will be leaving D'Lo alone. His shooting percentage will go up when he's not being keyed on all game long.

 

[beast of the east]

An ideal lead scorer gets you points efficiently. There are only so many of those guys out there. After them, at some point you have to make a determination if you want the points or the efficiency. I'll take the points. We have much better offensive balance this year, but I'm not interested in seeing what it would look like without Harrison. Having a guy who knows how to score the way he does is a luxury, and while it's certainly not going to break any efficiency records, his style helps the team in other ways. He's not a comfortable guard for opposing teams and the attention he draws opens things up for others. I see Jordan trending in that direction as well and when he gets there consistently it's going to be tough to keep both he and Harrison down in the same game.

I'm with you. We need the points, and we'll take the efficiency if we can get it. I also agree with those who point out that as others on the team continue to step up, teams will be leaving D'Lo alone. His shooting percentage will go up when he's not being keyed on all game long.

Do you really believe that Harrison's low shooting percentage is the result of defenses keying on him? Box and one? triangle and 2? Shots with multiple defenders draped all over him? I don't know. What sticks in my mind are wide open shots clanging off the rim, long threes, and forced shots. I'm super impressed with how he has controlled himself and stepped up into a leadership role. better shot selection is also a sign of maturity.

 

[paultzman]

An ideal lead scorer gets you points efficiently. There are only so many of those guys out there. After them, at some point you have to make a determination if you want the points or the efficiency. I'll take the points. We have much better offensive balance this year, but I'm not interested in seeing what it would look like without Harrison. Having a guy who knows how to score the way he does is a luxury, and while it's certainly not going to break any efficiency records, his style helps the team in other ways. He's not a comfortable guard for opposing teams and the attention he draws opens things up for others. I see Jordan trending in that direction as well and when he gets there consistently it's going to be tough to keep both he and Harrison down in the same game.

I'm with you. We need the points, and we'll take the efficiency if we can get it. I also agree with those who point out that as others on the team continue to step up, teams will be leaving D'Lo alone. His shooting percentage will go up when he's not being keyed on all game long.

Do you really believe that Harrison's low shooting percentage is the result of defenses keying on him? Box and one? triangle and 2? Shots with multiple defenders draped all over him? I don't know. What sticks in my mind are wide open shots clanging off the rim, long threes, and forced shots. I'm super impressed with how he has controlled himself and stepped up into a leadership role. better shot selection is also a sign of maturity.

Just curious. If you knew exactly what you were going to get (his production to date) prior to Harrison coming here, would you have signed up for that or looked elsewhere? Thanks.

 

[Jnaw17]

An ideal lead scorer gets you points efficiently. There are only so many of those guys out there. After them, at some point you have to make a determination if you want the points or the efficiency. I'll take the points. We have much better offensive balance this year, but I'm not interested in seeing what it would look like without Harrison. Having a guy who knows how to score the way he does is a luxury, and while it's certainly not going to break any efficiency records, his style helps the team in other ways. He's not a comfortable guard for opposing teams and the attention he draws opens things up for others. I see Jordan trending in that direction as well and when he gets there consistently it's going to be tough to keep both he and Harrison down in the same game.

I'm with you. We need the points, and we'll take the efficiency if we can get it. I also agree with those who point out that as others on the team continue to step up, teams will be leaving D'Lo alone. His shooting percentage will go up when he's not being keyed on all game long.

Do you really believe that Harrison's low shooting percentage is the result of defenses keying on him? Box and one? triangle and 2? Shots with multiple defenders draped all over him? I don't know. What sticks in my mind are wide open shots clanging off the rim, long threes, and forced shots. I'm super impressed with how he has controlled himself and stepped up into a leadership role. better shot selection is also a sign of maturity.

He spent the whole season last year with guys draped all over him. I agree that poor shot selection at times has been an issue, and if he tightens that up, we're better off for it. That will also require other guys to step up and hit shots. I do not agree that he's been clanking wide open shots on a regular basis.

 

[simplyred]

Dlo is a streaky shooter. He takes the quick 3 early in the game to get into rhythm. If he's on early, then he will have a big game. Sometimes, it takes him a while to get going but his confidence never wanes. That's who he is and we have to live with it. I'm not sure why we complain so much about one of the best scorers in our league.

 

[Class of 72]

Dlo is a streaky shooter. He takes the quick 3 early in the game to get into rhythm. If he's on early, then he will have a big game. Sometimes, it takes him a while to get going but his confidence never wanes. That's who he is and we have to live with it. I'm not sure why we complain so much about one of the best scorers in our league.

Because...bad shots cost us possessions.
..... bad shots costs us rebounds.
Because quick 3s make no sense to the rest of the offensive game plan (if there is one).
The problem is if this team requires him to be on early and have a big game then we are not a good "team"!
When he learns "when" to take his shot we will be a very good team.
The problem with our team is not Harrison's confidence....he has enough for the whole team, it is the confidence of Jordan, Sanchez and Hooper who have to become more aggressive and confident in themselves.
As a result of the over-confidence of D'Lo, his quick shots, driving instead of passing, etc., the rest of the team gets into the flow of the game later. Hence, our S L O W starts almost every game.