College Football Stuff

[bamafan]

Delaware, I am sure this is right. Seems like a devious team might try a fake with a really athletic player. The Miami kid ran like MJMaher with a few IPAs in him.

All that being said I’ve not seen anyone deliberately try this. Low % for sure.

Fake FGs have been tried like that because often times the holder is a QB.

 

[Andrew]

He is allowed to rise up and run / pass, but at that point, he is treated like any other player.

That was a great game you saw. Too bad ND didn’t win. They started too slow. Both teams look pretty good. The turnover on some teams rosters makes it harder than ever to know what will happen early in the season.

 

[SJUWillRockNYC]

Question for any College Football rules guys.

Holder in ND/Miami game has snap skid to him. His knee is clearly down. No try is attempted. He gets up and runs but stopped short. I get why on a try he’s allowed a knee down on regular FG try. You’d never have a FG try.

However, why on a botched snap can the holder clearly be down (knee on the ground) with possession but get up and run? If there’s “no try” shouldn’t he just be treated like another “runner”?

Just like spiking the ball, why isn't spiking the ball called intentional grounding?

Just how the rules work.

 

[Delaware]

Love needed to touch the ball more, especially with an inexperienced QB. The 2nd and 2 interception was a killer, but the kid did a great job bringing them back. Record crowd, great game, super experience.

 

[SJUWillRockNYC]

Delaware, I am sure this is right. Seems like a devious team might try a fake with a really athletic player. The Miami kid ran like MJMaher with a few IPAs in him.

All that being said I’ve not seen anyone deliberately try this. Low % for sure.

It wasn't a fake FG, it was a bad snap.
He had to get up and try to run for the 1st.

 

[CBA69]

Question for any College Football rules guys.

Holder in ND/Miami game has snap skid to him. His knee is clearly down. No try is attempted. He gets up and runs but stopped short. I get why on a try he’s allowed a knee down on regular FG try. You’d never have a FG try.

However, why on a botched snap can the holder clearly be down (knee on the ground) with possession but get up and run? If there’s “no try” shouldn’t he just be treated like another “runner”?

You got me thinking about this and up until now I never thought about before. So I looked up the rule:

"Rule 4-1-3-b (Exception) clarifies that the holder on a kick play may have his knee on the ground, provided a kicker is lined up in kicking position at the snap.

The knee can actually raise off the ground and still return immediately to kick the extra point or field goal, but once you catch the ball with your knee on the ground and raise up you are no longer considered the holder. Therefore the next time your knee hits the ground with the ball still in possession you are considered down."

 

[sjc88]

You got me thinking about this and up until now I never thought about before. So I looked up the rule:

"Rule 4-1-3-b (Exception) clarifies that the holder on a kick play may have his knee on the ground, provided a kicker is lined up in kicking position at the snap.

The knee can actually raise off the ground and still return immediately to kick the extra point or field goal, but once you catch the ball with your knee on the ground and raise up you are no longer considered the holder. Therefore the next time your knee hits the ground with the ball still in possession you are considered down."

Awesome info on this. Thank CBA69. This is one of those weird rule things that I wasn’t sure. Still makes me wonder why more fakes aren’t attempted. You could really get creative yet you don’t see it often.

 

[paultzman]

Gives me joy to see a team run up the score on Belichick, what goes around comes around.

 

[Spocky Ramone]

Gives me joy to see a team run up the score on Belichick, what goes around comes around.

I keep mashing the “Like” button, but it doesn’t record more than one “Like”.

 

[paultzman]