[quote="Monte" post=350043][quote="Beast of the East" post=349991][quote="SJU14" post=349975][quote="Beast of the East" post=349971][quote="Red Bloods" post=349965][quote="Beast of the East" post=349963][quote="Red Bloods" post=349962][quote="Beast of the East" post=349816][quote="Red Bloods" post=349803]Nice job by coach Anderson rewarding Chris for doing his best to help keep this team from completely falling apart before his arrival.[/quote]
You don't hire a guy simply because he tried to hold the fort down. I'm sure Anderson got a sense of the job he did for the team last year from Cragg and other AD staf, and from the players themselves. It's sort of an agnostic position apart from actually coaching the team, so retaining Chris keeps some sort of continuity with the players with a guy they obviously like.[/quote]
No kidding. Didn’t think I needed to state the obvious. Plus I’ve seen the work Chris put in while ingrates we’re jumping ship. Just giving the coach a thumbs up for acknowledging that work.
Also a tip of the cap to AD Cragg for dissuading the dynamic duo - Bobby & his puppet master Oliva - from going with the coach from Yale. Which would have been an absolute disaster. A tip of the cap to Mike Repole as well. If not for his well deserved torching of the third floor in Newman. God only knows who would be coaching this team.
Just glad coach Anderson is here and I’m sure Chris is just as happy. ; )[/quote]
Misinformed. Water under the bridge but negotiations with MA were pretty far along when Repole went off. Shows how much of an outsider he is. AD was pretty annoyed at the myth that MR's rant influenced anything. He is now clearly on the outs and never learned that to have significant input, you pony up cash first, respect others who have done the same, and work collegially.[/quote]
Sorry but the only one misinformed here is you my friend. Repole torched them and the next day they interviewed the Yale coach(Jackson?), Hewitt and coach Anderson. Like I said the dream team wanted the Yale guy and Cragg informed them there was no way to sell him to the fans/alumni/media over Anderson. And that without a doubt he was the guy to go with especially after being roasted the previous day on national radio by your biggest booster. That is basically how it went down.[/quote]
[URL]https://www.newswise.com/articles/st-johns-university-receives-eight-figure-gift[/URL]
As you guys pray to the altar of Repole he is far from the biggest booster. Basically dangled the potential of a big donation in return for decision making power.
If you remember Repole got press for himself by publicly offering to buy a piece of the Mets for $200 million. Then he realized as a minority shareholder he would have little to no input on operations. Let's see if Repole delivers on his now public offer of $10 million to renovate CA. Guarantee you he was dangling a carrot to Cragg with a big string attached- influencing decisions. Many of our posters don't have season tix so don't care, but I'd be pretty certain Repole won't be donating.
This thread has ZERO to do with Repole, and his rant is old news. For those who actually support the school, he is no hero.[/quote]
If you were donating $10 million dollars wouldn’t you want some influence on what it’s being used for?[/quote]
The way it works with charitable donations, is that you donate money, and are often put in positions that help influence direction. You get appointed to committees, boards, etc, eventually become a BOT member. You don't say, "If I donate $10 million I get to the choose the coach", or even expect that would be handed to you. Repole's donations compared to others, while generous by almost any standard, are very limited for a billionaire. I am unaware of his participation in any board positions where policy is shaped and decisions are made.
Bottom line IMO is this. If you primarily or only care about the basketball program, you probably loved his rant. You probably are more likely to believe that his outburst was justified and he used his influence to voice what many fans have felt about the program and decision making regarding coaches.
If you are an alumni who loves the school, support it in any way, and kind of think of this sort of thing as a family argument that should stay between family members, then you are more likely to think his rant is regrettable to highly annoying.[/quote]
As a St. John's alum, I consider fellow alum(like Repole) much more a part of the St. John's family than Bobby or Oliva. Administrators come and go. They are not "family" to me. As for donations, maybe if some of those so-called really high rollers cared more about our beloved basketball program and were willing to get more involved, then maybe we wouldn't' have had to endure 20 years of mostly garbage around here. But they don't give a flying F. At least we all know Repole does. I don't blame him one single bit for attaching strings to his 10 Mil donation. I'd do the same if I felt that it wasn't going to be put to good use. And "if that's not how it works" at St. John's, I assure you there are plenty of institutions that would accept a 10 Mil donation with some strings attached.[/quote]
I would disagree. The effort to hire coaches from Carnesecca went like this:
Looie, respectful of the Vincentians, never wanted to get paid more than the University President. It kept his salary at the end somewhere around $100-125K. The years he took off to coach the Nets, Frank Mulzoff was paid somewhat like 18K, in those days, college coaches were paid like teachers.
The school initiated national search for someone to replace Looie. No one was off limits. However, everyone they contacted did not want the job, and they all said the same thing: Promote Mahoney. Going rate at that point: 400k
Mahoney flames out after winning Big East coach of the year one year, and they hire Jarvis for almost $800K all in with Radio show, apparel sponsor, etc. Big jump in salary for St. John's to invest and they thought they had a right guy, long history and success at GW. We all know what happened next.
Norm should not have been hired except Harrington fell in love with him on the interview. The money was there to hire the failed UNC coach, Doherty, who had gotten off to a great start at Notre Dame. Norm got I think 500 or 600K, a good salary for a guy who had never coached, but the guys running the committee didn't want him.
When Norm failed, the school went deep for them and hired Lavin at $2 million. They even let him spend for a staff that included Keady at $400K. He got us 2 NCAA bids, but was too okay with mediocre success for those paying him $2 million. I believe $2 million at the time was in the top 20 for all NCAA coaches.
After all those failures, the school decided to try something different. If Mullin could generate enough buzz and actually build a roster, perhaps the $2 million per would be a good investment. Still this salary I'm guessing was in the top 30 at the time he got it. Yeah, he failed, but it wasn't because he was underpaid.
Still $2 million would have gotten us a competent coach in Cluess for half that, a competent coach in Moser for about that (thank God - that would have been wasted money), and the school did offer Hurley somewhat more than he was making as far as I know. I'm guessing Anderson cost them in the range of what they offer Moser and Hurley, which isn't chump change.
How the hell is that not caring, Monte? Each time except for Roberts, they went deeper and deeper into the well, and paid pretty much market rates for a HC.
