The other good one I love is the mystery of the 'season ticket holder gift'. No communication about it. You only hear thru the grapevine that there is a gift. And then you have to pick it up. DURING a game. I don't want to hold anything during a game. Nobody there after the game either. Is it such a difficult thing to ship the damn thing?
The plastic license plate holder? I'll give you mine. and as a season ticket holder this does bother me slightly but it will really tick me off if they're getting tickets below me.
I don't even know what it is. To be honest I've had tickets for a decade and I might have got 2 gifts. And they were so unrecognizable I don't even remember what they were. Some things it seems will never grow out of mom and pop stage. But those checks in September sure look nice from all the poor schlubs who send in their season ticket money.
* And I also want the Garden packed. And on the surface 1/2 price or BOGO deals might sound nice. But also opens up gate for a Hall fan to get a nice deal. Its a double edge sword.
I think I got a magnet for RW, or a STJ plastic pin for Loughlin society. I never knew there were gifts for season ticket holders that had to be picked up.
Moose as advice, you need to separate your love of Redmen basketball from the things the schools does to alienate us, or you'll be finished far too early.
Their loss not mine. No skin off my back. As I've gotten older I've cared less and less about sports seeing it from all angles. But if I ran a business the way STJ does I'd be on the corner with a coffee cup beggin for money.
I understnad your point of view. I watch very little NFL football and can hardly pay attention when attending an MLB game. I don't pay attention to NBA basketball . It's all because professional sports is all about money, the product is vastly overpriced, aand the players and organizations care very little about the fans.
At least with college, the players want to win, and they aren't getting paid for it. Of course, everyone else is making money.
The other good one I love is the mystery of the 'season ticket holder gift'. No communication about it. You only hear thru the grapevine that there is a gift. And then you have to pick it up. DURING a game. I don't want to hold anything during a game. Nobody there after the game either. Is it such a difficult thing to ship the damn thing?
The plastic license plate holder? I'll give you mine. and as a season ticket holder this does bother me slightly but it will really tick me off if they're getting tickets below me.
I don't even know what it is. To be honest I've had tickets for a decade and I might have got 2 gifts. And they were so unrecognizable I don't even remember what they were. Some things it seems will never grow out of mom and pop stage. But those checks in September sure look nice from all the poor schlubs who send in their season ticket money.
* And I also want the Garden packed. And on the surface 1/2 price or BOGO deals might sound nice. But also opens up gate for a Hall fan to get a nice deal. Its a double edge sword.
I think I got a magnet for RW, or a STJ plastic pin for Loughlin society. I never knew there were gifts for season ticket holders that had to be picked up.
Moose as advice, you need to separate your love of Redmen basketball from the things the schools does to alienate us, or you'll be finished far too early.
Their loss not mine. No skin off my back. As I've gotten older I've cared less and less about sports seeing it from all angles. But if I ran a business the way STJ does I'd be on the corner with a coffee cup beggin for money.
I understnad your point of view. I watch very little NFL football and can hardly pay attention when attending an MLB game. I don't pay attention to NBA basketball . It's all because professional sports is all about money, the product is vastly overpriced, aand the players and organizations care very little about the fans.
At least with college, the players want to win, and they aren't getting paid for it. Of course, everyone else is making money.
Agree with both of you. Get much more enjoyment out of watching the Xavier-Regis(High School) tripleheader last night and my daughter's JV game the night before than I do watching the NBA. I take High School or college sports over pro sports any day of the week. Even if they did charge $5.00 for admission to the tripleheader
The other good one I love is the mystery of the 'season ticket holder gift'. No communication about it. You only hear thru the grapevine that there is a gift. And then you have to pick it up. DURING a game. I don't want to hold anything during a game. Nobody there after the game either. Is it such a difficult thing to ship the damn thing?
The plastic license plate holder? I'll give you mine. and as a season ticket holder this does bother me slightly but it will really tick me off if they're getting tickets below me.
I don't even know what it is. To be honest I've had tickets for a decade and I might have got 2 gifts. And they were so unrecognizable I don't even remember what they were. Some things it seems will never grow out of mom and pop stage. But those checks in September sure look nice from all the poor schlubs who send in their season ticket money.
* And I also want the Garden packed. And on the surface 1/2 price or BOGO deals might sound nice. But also opens up gate for a Hall fan to get a nice deal. Its a double edge sword.
I think I got a magnet for RW, or a STJ plastic pin for Loughlin society. I never knew there were gifts for season ticket holders that had to be picked up.
Moose as advice, you need to separate your love of Redmen basketball from the things the schools does to alienate us, or you'll be finished far too early.
Their loss not mine. No skin off my back. As I've gotten older I've cared less and less about sports seeing it from all angles. But if I ran a business the way STJ does I'd be on the corner with a coffee cup beggin for money.
I understnad your point of view. I watch very little NFL football and can hardly pay attention when attending an MLB game. I don't pay attention to NBA basketball . It's all because professional sports is all about money, the product is vastly overpriced, aand the players and organizations care very little about the fans.
At least with college, the players want to win, and they aren't getting paid for it. Of course, everyone else is making money.
Agree with both of you. Get much more enjoyment out of watching the Xavier-Regis(High School) tripleheader last night and my daughter's JV game the night before than I do watching the NBA. I take High School or college sports over pro sports any day of the week. Even if they did charge $5.00 for admission to the tripleheader
Do you have any ties to Regis or Xavier?
$10 for student tickets to MSG games. $4.50 for round trip on bus/subway. $12.50 round trip from Jamaica LIRR station. Eat before you go inside. It should be manageable to go to a few games a year.
I know that it's not as easy as just walking across campus, but...
I'm not saying it is easily affordable for everyone, Joe. But there are many students who can afford to go but don't. Can't force them to be fans.
I think it would be great for the school to bus kids to MSG. I'm not sure it is cost effective in comparison to the cost of the subway or LIRR.
I'm not saying it is easily affordable for everyone, Joe. But there are many students who can afford to go but don't. Can't force them to be fans.
I think it would be great for the school to bus kids to MSG. I'm not sure it is cost effective in comparison to the cost of the subway or LIRR.
I can agree there are those who have the money but just don't want to. Trust me, if money was no option I'd get courtside seats to tons of SJ and Knicks games at MSG on a regular basis. As for the bus situation: my proposal would be to buy say 2 or 3 buses, put our "We Are...St. John's" tag on it with our logo, the red haze and lightning background, etc. and even list accolades on the back like " *2 Final Four appearances *28 NCAA Tournament berths *5 NIT Championships (or however many it is), etc. On the other side of the bus have it say "We are New York's team" and maybe have the skyline behind our logo. It really makes students feel like they are representing their school, and increases school pride. It's also a moving billboard as well as a round trip to MSG and other local schools. With tuition at what almost 40k if not more, there is no reason to charge the students for these trips. If there is a low ridership after a certain time period, simply do away with it and try something else. This is something that can certainly be done.
Just to chime in my two cents here it goes. 1) When I was a grad student at SU I bought season tickets, which was like $180 (I could be off a little) and that included 9 BE home games + like 10 non-conf games. Obviously lots of students don't go versus the cupcakes but even if you go to like 10 games its not bad. The overall idea of paying $180 for access to any game also entices many students even if they know they won't go a lot. Something SU can offer was for like $200 you could get a football/bball combo. since no one goes to football games anyway andn lots of students did this because they felt for $200 they can go to any football/bball game. While posters have touched on Cuse being a different market economically, and their prices being lower, if you don't have a face value seat to Cuse-Gtown/Nova etc, it is pretty expensive on the secondary market since they both sell out right away and for $180 students are willing to not go through that hassle. I had friends dropping $100 for decent seats at certain games their. However, SJU does only charge $10 a ticket for students, this is $70 for all MSG BE games. $70 really is not a lot of money for a student, regardless of economic situations.
2) I am a grad student in NYC, not SJU, but it is $15 for me to go to MSG games. Granted I can walk to MSG from my apartment (albeit it is a long walk) so the $15 is not that bad. I usually don't buy food or drink because I literally get their before the game and go home right after. Now that deal gets 2 tickets, so I always bring friends with me who are not currently students and are not SJU fans. Someone like Joe and others can look into this option. It gives you the best available seats at the time of purchase, on game day, for $15. Usually I end up corner 100s, pay $30 for 2 tickets, and if more of us go, usually someone else is a student. So can keep multiplying by 2. Its also an easy way to get friends to go. My friends aren't SJU fans per se, but they love sports/cbb and to them it is worth $15 to see a BE game at MSG instead of overpaying for an NBA game.
Just to chime in my two cents here it goes. 1) When I was a grad student at SU I bought season tickets, which was like $180 (I could be off a little) and that included 9 BE home games + like 10 non-conf games. Obviously lots of students don't go versus the cupcakes but even if you go to like 10 games its not bad. The overall idea of paying $180 for access to any game also entices many students even if they know they won't go a lot. Something SU can offer was for like $200 you could get a football/bball combo. since no one goes to football games anyway andn lots of students did this because they felt for $200 they can go to any football/bball game. While posters have touched on Cuse being a different market economically, and their prices being lower, if you don't have a face value seat to Cuse-Gtown/Nova etc, it is pretty expensive on the secondary market since they both sell out right away and for $180 students are willing to not go through that hassle. I had friends dropping $100 for decent seats at certain games their. However, SJU does only charge $10 a ticket for students, this is $70 for all MSG BE games. $70 really is not a lot of money for a student, regardless of economic situations.
2) I am a grad student in NYC, not SJU, but it is $15 for me to go to MSG games. Granted I can walk to MSG from my apartment (albeit it is a long walk) so the $15 is not that bad. I usually don't buy food or drink because I literally get their before the game and go home right after. Now that deal gets 2 tickets, so I always bring friends with me who are not currently students and are not SJU fans. Someone like Joe and others can look into this option. It gives you the best available seats at the time of purchase, on game day, for $15. Usually I end up corner 100s, pay $30 for 2 tickets, and if more of us go, usually someone else is a student. So can keep multiplying by 2. Its also an easy way to get friends to go. My friends aren't SJU fans per se, but they love sports/cbb and to them it is worth $15 to see a BE game at MSG instead of overpaying for an NBA game.
You totally ignore the transportation cost which is the real killer. Add around $20 to even the cheapest ticket automatically. I don't know where you find 100 section tickets for $15...the cheapest 200's usually go for $30-35 from what I have seen, so please show me your ways. Other than getting student tickets, I don't see how it's possible to pay $15 with tax, processing fees and all for good 100 seats. It would be so much easier if I could just drive to the Queens campus (45 minutes with no traffic), park my car and hop on the bus taking me to and from MSG. Riding on a SJ bus would only add to the experience and like I said, it is a moving billboard as well. For a school with almost 20,000 students in all campuses and a top notch basketball program (in the national sense out of all conferences) that charges 40k a year per student, this seems easily done.
The school should work out some sort of deal with the railroad for students with id
$10 for student tickets to MSG games. $4.50 for round trip on bus/subway. $12.50 round trip from Jamaica LIRR station. Eat before you go inside. It should be manageable to go to a few games a year.
I know that it's not as easy as just walking across campus, but...
Do you know how many millions of people live east of Jamaica? Ronkonkoma is only about 35 miles from Jamaica, but the round trip from there is about $20. So that's $8 more than your 12.50 figure. $10 student tickets do not let you bring your non-student friends to sit with you in great seats, so that value is lost. Would they let me sit say in the 200's with a student ticket even though it's for the student section? Since I would be essentially downgrading my seat is that ok? Either way you slice it though even with a student ticket for $10, there's a $20 round trip LIRR and about $5 metro card, etc. you are still talking about a $40 night as the absolute low end. The absolute low end for everything should be $20 at most IMO. What Marist used to do to get fan support was get new buses with our logo stretched across the whole thing...it looked awesome. They would bring fans to games as far away as Boston and other areas. This made it totally convenient to go see the team on the road. Why doesn't SJ get a few buses, have a cool paint job with "We Are...St. John's" with a red haze and lightning everywhere behind our logo? Then for $5 round trip or even better for free, you have a way to get directly to MSG with no train or subway and even away games at Nova, Seton Hall, Providence, etc. At a major sports school, that seems obvious to me. How can a MAAC school have these cool things, but a Big East school can't?
$10 for student tickets to MSG games. $4.50 for round trip on bus/subway. $12.50 round trip from Jamaica LIRR station. Eat before you go inside. It should be manageable to go to a few games a year.
I know that it's not as easy as just walking across campus, but...
Do you know how many millions of people live east of Jamaica? Ronkonkoma is only about 35 miles from Jamaica, but the round trip from there is about $20. So that's $8 more than your 12.50 figure. $10 student tickets do not let you bring your non-student friends to sit with you in great seats, so that value is lost. Would they let me sit say in the 200's with a student ticket even though it's for the student section? Since I would be essentially downgrading my seat is that ok? Either way you slice it though even with a student ticket for $10, there's a $20 round trip LIRR and about $5 metro card, etc. you are still talking about a $40 night as the absolute low end. The absolute low end for everything should be $20 at most IMO. What Marist used to do to get fan support was get new buses with our logo stretched across the whole thing...it looked awesome. They would bring fans to games as far away as Boston and other areas. This made it totally convenient to go see the team on the road. Why doesn't SJ get a few buses, have a cool paint job with "We Are...St. John's" with a red haze and lightning everywhere behind our logo? Then for $5 round trip or even better for free, you have a way to get directly to MSG with no train or subway and even away games at Nova, Seton Hall, Providence, etc. At a major sports school, that seems obvious to me. How can a MAAC school have these cool things, but a Big East school can't?
Joe, If i gave you one of my tickets for tomorrow's game, would you stop whining? they are in the 100s, and all you would have to do is get there. I might buy you a beer, but don't expect lunch.
This "gift" is on behalf of all redmen.com'ers who you think hate you, and in honor of your return to redmen.com
Oh, yea, and a shameless attempt to raise my kharma
http://www.thegarden.com/content/msg/the-garden/events/promos/REDSTORM1.html
http://www.thegarden.com/content/msg/the-garden/events/promos/REDSTORM1.html
Does anyone know what other games this was offered for?
Thanks,
http://www.thegarden.com/content/msg/the-garden/events/promos/REDSTORM1.html
Does anyone know what other games this was offered for?
Thanks,
I check out this forum once in awhile but never joined. My first time posting.