Bucknell game

[jumbo_peanuts]

Thoughts on last nights game:

-Phil Greene absolutely saved us last night as did the switch to a zone. There is a very low ceiling for this team if we're going to be an atrocious three point shooting team. Teams will continue to pack in a zone.

-The midrange jumpshot is the worst shot in college basketball and that is what our halfcourt offense is based on right now. We have to hit our share of threes in order to get driving and cutting lanes within 12 feet of the rim.

-Orlando Sanchez is wayyyyy too skilled to be used solely as a screener and gap guy at the top of the key. He was tremendous at Monroe College of playing with his back to the basket at the high post, finding cutters and squaring up. He needs to have his role better defined in our halfcourt offense.

-Rysheed Jordan had a string of three really good possessions in a row in the first half then got taken out at the 12 minute mark. Not sure why, because he had great momentum starting to build. Still, if struggles continue these next few games you have to worry if his head is right.

-Our perimeter defense in man-to-man was awful. Our guards need to work on providing tougher angles to the rim when playing one-on-one. It was way too easy for Bucknell's guards last night.

That Bucknell team definitely was not a sweet 16 caliber team but they're definitely a tournament team. Glad we pulled it out and hopefully it looks good come resume time.

Can you explain why the mid range jumpshot is the "worst shot in college basketball"??

3 feet further in and it's worth the same. 3 feet further out and it's worth 1 more point.

Now an open midrange jumper in rhythm is a different story. But more than half of the ones we take are not of that variety.

3 feet further in and it might get blocked. 3 feet further out and you might be out of your range.

I'd rather Jakarr take a 16 footer than step out to the three point line.

That's why I put the second paragraph. And agree with you regarding Jakarr, but you know what I would rather him do? Take a shot inside the paint, try to dunk it down their throats.

We are not a good shooting team to begin with....so one of the ideas is to have our guys move further away from the basket??

 

[Amaseinyourface]

Thoughts on last nights game:

-Phil Greene absolutely saved us last night as did the switch to a zone. There is a very low ceiling for this team if we're going to be an atrocious three point shooting team. Teams will continue to pack in a zone.

-The midrange jumpshot is the worst shot in college basketball and that is what our halfcourt offense is based on right now. We have to hit our share of threes in order to get driving and cutting lanes within 12 feet of the rim.

-Orlando Sanchez is wayyyyy too skilled to be used solely as a screener and gap guy at the top of the key. He was tremendous at Monroe College of playing with his back to the basket at the high post, finding cutters and squaring up. He needs to have his role better defined in our halfcourt offense.

-Rysheed Jordan had a string of three really good possessions in a row in the first half then got taken out at the 12 minute mark. Not sure why, because he had great momentum starting to build. Still, if struggles continue these next few games you have to worry if his head is right.

-Our perimeter defense in man-to-man was awful. Our guards need to work on providing tougher angles to the rim when playing one-on-one. It was way too easy for Bucknell's guards last night.

That Bucknell team definitely was not a sweet 16 caliber team but they're definitely a tournament team. Glad we pulled it out and hopefully it looks good come resume time.

Can you explain why the mid range jumpshot is the "worst shot in college basketball"??

3 feet further in and it's worth the same. 3 feet further out and it's worth 1 more point.

Now an open midrange jumper in rhythm is a different story. But more than half of the ones we take are not of that variety.

3 feet further in and it might get blocked. 3 feet further out and you might be out of your range.

I'd rather Jakarr take a 16 footer than step out to the three point line.

That's why I put the second paragraph. And agree with you regarding Jakarr, but you know what I would rather him do? Take a shot inside the paint, try to dunk it down their throats.

We are not a good shooting team to begin with....so one of the ideas is to have our guys move further away from the basket??

Our shot selection plays a huge part in our poor shooting.

 

[qcredman]

Thoughts on last nights game:

-Phil Greene absolutely saved us last night as did the switch to a zone. There is a very low ceiling for this team if we're going to be an atrocious three point shooting team. Teams will continue to pack in a zone.

-The midrange jumpshot is the worst shot in college basketball and that is what our halfcourt offense is based on right now. We have to hit our share of threes in order to get driving and cutting lanes within 12 feet of the rim.

-Orlando Sanchez is wayyyyy too skilled to be used solely as a screener and gap guy at the top of the key. He was tremendous at Monroe College of playing with his back to the basket at the high post, finding cutters and squaring up. He needs to have his role better defined in our halfcourt offense.

-Rysheed Jordan had a string of three really good possessions in a row in the first half then got taken out at the 12 minute mark. Not sure why, because he had great momentum starting to build. Still, if struggles continue these next few games you have to worry if his head is right.

-Our perimeter defense in man-to-man was awful. Our guards need to work on providing tougher angles to the rim when playing one-on-one. It was way too easy for Bucknell's guards last night.

That Bucknell team definitely was not a sweet 16 caliber team but they're definitely a tournament team. Glad we pulled it out and hopefully it looks good come resume time.

Can you explain why the mid range jumpshot is the "worst shot in college basketball"??

3 feet further in and it's worth the same. 3 feet further out and it's worth 1 more point.

Now an open midrange jumper in rhythm is a different story. But more than half of the ones we take are not of that variety.

3 feet further in and it might get blocked. 3 feet further out and you might be out of your range.

I'd rather Jakarr take a 16 footer than step out to the three point line.

That's why I put the second paragraph. And agree with you regarding Jakarr, but you know what I would rather him do? Take a shot inside the paint, try to dunk it down their throats.

We are not a good shooting team to begin with....so one of the ideas is to have our guys move further away from the basket??

Our shot selection plays a huge part in our poor shooting.

As does our lack of offensive sets and picks properly set to free a shooter up.

Look how productive Bucknell's crisp weave with an objective in mind was - particularly during the first half.

 

[TRabinowitz]

Thoughts on last nights game:

-Phil Greene absolutely saved us last night as did the switch to a zone. There is a very low ceiling for this team if we're going to be an atrocious three point shooting team. Teams will continue to pack in a zone.

-The midrange jumpshot is the worst shot in college basketball and that is what our halfcourt offense is based on right now. We have to hit our share of threes in order to get driving and cutting lanes within 12 feet of the rim.

-Orlando Sanchez is wayyyyy too skilled to be used solely as a screener and gap guy at the top of the key. He was tremendous at Monroe College of playing with his back to the basket at the high post, finding cutters and squaring up. He needs to have his role better defined in our halfcourt offense.

-Rysheed Jordan had a string of three really good possessions in a row in the first half then got taken out at the 12 minute mark. Not sure why, because he had great momentum starting to build. Still, if struggles continue these next few games you have to worry if his head is right.

-Our perimeter defense in man-to-man was awful. Our guards need to work on providing tougher angles to the rim when playing one-on-one. It was way too easy for Bucknell's guards last night.

That Bucknell team definitely was not a sweet 16 caliber team but they're definitely a tournament team. Glad we pulled it out and hopefully it looks good come resume time.

Can you explain why the mid range jumpshot is the "worst shot in college basketball"??

From KenPom, who has done extensive an extensive study on it:

http://basketballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=191

"A lot of analysts lament the death of the mid-range game, and you can see that in this chart. Fewer than half as many shots are taken between 10 and 15 feet as are taken between 20 and 25 feet. What's striking is that accuracy in the mid-range is less than it is for the closest three-point shots. One might ascribe the lack of mid-range shots to players being stupid, lazy or some other negative stereotype which gets associated with the modern game, but the conclusion could also be drawn that there's more mid-range shooting going on than there needs to be. If a player can be as accurate from 20 feet, with a little practice, as he is from 15, then why practice the 15-footers if you're just going to cheat yourself out of a point? "

More factual evidence as to why the midrange jumpshot is the worst and least efficient shot in college basketball: http://thefinchandpea.com/2012/04/03/math-madness-3-jump-shots-and-expectation/

 

[Moose]

KenPom is a nerd
I hate nerds

 

[TRabinowitz]

KenPom is a nerd
I hate nerds

He's a nerd that is 100% correct.

 

[gman]

If anyone has an extra ticket for the game tomorrow please let me know. Mjmaher and Alfredo gave me their tickets. My stepbrother wants to bring his son, so I'm looking for a 4th.

 

[jr49]

KenPom is a nerd
I hate nerds

He's a nerd that is 100% correct.

A pull up J from 12 gotta draw more fouls then the 3. Maybe, I got no chart.

 

[monte]

Thoughts on last nights game:

-Phil Greene absolutely saved us last night as did the switch to a zone. There is a very low ceiling for this team if we're going to be an atrocious three point shooting team. Teams will continue to pack in a zone.

-The midrange jumpshot is the worst shot in college basketball and that is what our halfcourt offense is based on right now. We have to hit our share of threes in order to get driving and cutting lanes within 12 feet of the rim.

-Orlando Sanchez is wayyyyy too skilled to be used solely as a screener and gap guy at the top of the key. He was tremendous at Monroe College of playing with his back to the basket at the high post, finding cutters and squaring up. He needs to have his role better defined in our halfcourt offense.

-Rysheed Jordan had a string of three really good possessions in a row in the first half then got taken out at the 12 minute mark. Not sure why, because he had great momentum starting to build. Still, if struggles continue these next few games you have to worry if his head is right.

-Our perimeter defense in man-to-man was awful. Our guards need to work on providing tougher angles to the rim when playing one-on-one. It was way too easy for Bucknell's guards last night.

That Bucknell team definitely was not a sweet 16 caliber team but they're definitely a tournament team. Glad we pulled it out and hopefully it looks good come resume time.

Can you explain why the mid range jumpshot is the "worst shot in college basketball"??

From KenPom, who has done extensive an extensive study on it:

http://basketballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=191

"A lot of analysts lament the death of the mid-range game, and you can see that in this chart. Fewer than half as many shots are taken between 10 and 15 feet as are taken between 20 and 25 feet. What's striking is that accuracy in the mid-range is less than it is for the closest three-point shots. One might ascribe the lack of mid-range shots to players being stupid, lazy or some other negative stereotype which gets associated with the modern game, but the conclusion could also be drawn that there's more mid-range shooting going on than there needs to be. If a player can be as accurate from 20 feet, with a little practice, as he is from 15, then why practice the 15-footers if you're just going to cheat yourself out of a point? "

More factual evidence as to why the midrange jumpshot is the worst and least efficient shot in college basketball: http://thefinchandpea.com/2012/04/03/math-madness-3-jump-shots-and-expectation/

Love this. My offensive game has always been about:
1) Shoot the 3 if at all possible
2) Fake the 3 then drive to hoop(when my knees allowed me to drive)
3) Fake the 3, drive and dish

The mid range jumper was never part of my repertoire, and I use that term very loosely. Who knew I was practicing statistically sound basketball all these years?

 

[TRabinowitz]

KenPom is a nerd
I hate nerds

He's a nerd that is 100% correct.

A pull up J from 12 gotta draw more fouls then the 3. Maybe, I got no chart.

Not enough to make it statistically more valuable than the 3. KenPom and the other site gives you all the breakdowns you need.

 

[Class of 72]

KenPom is a nerd
I hate nerds

He's a nerd that is 100% correct.

A pull up J from 12 gotta draw more fouls then the 3. Maybe, I got no chart.

Not enough to make it statistically more valuable than the 3. KenPom and the other site gives you all the breakdowns you need.

I guess if the 3 is more valuable SJ should start Max or Marco or both since
(a) we do not have inside set plays and (b) we absolutely suck as a 3 point shooting team.
Just let Sanchez, D'Lo, Jordan, Max and Marco hoist those 25 footers.

 

[TRabinowitz]

Well, we do need to hit our fair share of threes. We don't have to be a great or even good three point shooting team, but to be in the last 25-50 D1 teams is awful and will set an awfully low ceiling for how good we can be offensively. Until we can show we can hold our own beyond the arc teams will continue to pack it in in a shallow zone against us. With that said, we don't force the ball inside enough by getting the ball into attack spots on the court and we settle too much. It's poor offense no matter how you look at it.