Bowling Green, Fri. Nov. 9, 6:30p, FS2 / 570 WMCA

[quote="Mean Gene" post=301768]I hear you, and teams have really good nights and really bad nights during certain games during the season. Match ups are different also. If Keita plays the whole game and Ponds plays the whole game who knows. But I just thought I would throw it out there what an easy time VCU is having with them.[/quote]

Actually, the person who ticked me off about it was Zach B, putting it on his twitter like it was a story. He should know better.
 
[quote="Mean Gene" post=301776][quote="oldschool Redmen" post=301772]5:55 left 1st half
29-27 Vermont over ku[/quote]

Vermont has high quality program for a small school. They have been very good for a few years now .[/quote]

So any 4 or 5 stars kids on Vermont, or do they have a great in game coach?
 
[quote="SJU61982" post=301779][quote="Mean Gene" post=301768]I hear you, and teams have really good nights and really bad nights during certain games during the season. Match ups are different also. If Keita plays the whole game and Ponds plays the whole game who knows. But I just thought I would throw it out there what an easy time VCU is having with them.[/quote]

Actually, the person who ticked me off about it was Zach B, putting it on his twitter like it was a story. He should know better.[/quote]

Why would you be ticked off? He was simply reporting a fact. We struggled against Bowling Green andVCU dominated them. The folks that rank teams look at every game played and compare the quality of the wins and losses. We have three returning veteran starters and three of the other first 8 players practiced last year. I don't think integrating Heron andFigueroa has been a problem from the games they played. How these talented players are prepared for opponents is a factor. We don't seem to come into games with intensity and solid game plans. We have the least respected coaching staff in the Big East conference. Games like these give Zach B. plenty of material to tweet about.
I think we all agreed that year 4 is going to be the year of "no excuses". Let's stick to that. There is an outstanding coach in New York's second City Buffalo that has his team nationally ranked and undefeated. They knocked off 17th ranked West Virginia that is coached by a legend. He hasn't needed 3 years to assemble a good team and he knows his BB.
We, on the other hand, lost a scrimmage to Rhode Island with a first year coach, played sloppy against Loyola and squeezed out a last second win at home against Bowling Green. If we lose Friday to the worst team in the BIG let's hope these players and coaches keep it together because the Zach B's of the college basketball world will love to validate their low opinions of our program.
 
[quote="newsman13" post=301804]The latest poll has us ranked at 46. At least we're on it. BTW, no box scores anywhere?[/quote]

Don't shortchange us newsman! We're tied for 45th with Arizona, Marshall, and Xavier. :)

Of course, Loyola (Ill). is one spot ahead of those teams, and they lost to Furman, so we can't really read too much into anything right now.

[URL][URL]https://www.cbssports.com...get-loyola-chicago-off-your-ap-top-25-ballot/[/URL][/URL]
 
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Unfortunately, I can see us being taken right to the final seconds any time we play a team who can shoot and has size. I honestly thought we'd have much more power to pull away from these bum teams, but again I put that on staff. I just don't see the adjustments being made. Frye and Co. in the BG game come out guns blazing making practically every 3. Then halftime so you'd expect that to obviously be addressed. Then we come back out 2nd half and bang a pair of 3's immediately. I can understand if these were all well-contested 3's they just made in miracle fashion as those do happen...but 90% of the time our defenders have their hands down, giving them an open look. I also don't understand the lack of motion on offense without the ball. When we were at our best vs. Loyola we were making hard cuts to the basket, making the extra pass, and finding the open man.

I rewatched some BG clips and there were also 3-4 times at least where our guards penetrated taking on 3 defenders without kicking out to a wide open player behind the arc...and then missed. Simon was usually the culprit. We were too predictable and they knew we'd drive to the hoop so they had help defense coming over. We need to keep teams guessing and keep them off-balance. Be unpredictable. Drive for layups a few times but then fake the drive and kick out to the open man. Another play, drive then kick out, then fake the shot and make the extra pass to a usually wide open player. This is what Villanova does so well. Thus far there's way too much 1 on 3 Melo type ball. This will not end in a win against Rutgers if it continues. You save the opponent defenses lots of breath and effort by passing and not moving without the ball.
 
If you were a bit older you would call it by its proper name, Dominique ball. As a long time Celtics fan one of the guaranteed pleasures each year was watching Dominique Wilkins in the playoffs as his shooting percentage diminished quarter by quarter after his early scoring dominance had convinced all his team mates that moving without the ball was a waste of time.
 
[quote="fuchsia" post=301813]If you were a bit older you would call it by its proper name, Dominique ball. As a long time Celtics fan one of the guaranteed pleasures each year was watching Dominique Wilkins in the playoffs as his shooting percentage diminished quarter by quarter after his early scoring dominance had convinced all his team mates that moving without the ball was a waste of time.[/quote]

But he was still "the human highlight film" :) Wasn't his coach Hubie Brown? Mike Fratello?
 
I think at one point Scott Wedman who was a 3 pt specialist was at the other corner and still never saw the ball.
 
[quote="SJU2000alum15" post=301798]By the way VCU only beat Bowling Green by 11 and were outscored by them in the second half.[/quote]

Mostly because BG out rebounded VCU 47-31.
 
[quote="SJU2000alum15" post=301798]By the way VCU only beat Bowling Green by 11 and were outscored by them in the second half.[/quote]
Maybe that's because they had over a 20 point lead in the second half and coasted home. Probably just a blip on the screen for BG's final four run.
 
[quote="bamafan" post=301842][quote="SJU2000alum15" post=301798]By the way VCU only beat Bowling Green by 11 and were outscored by them in the second half.[/quote]
Maybe that's because they had over a 20 point lead in the second half and coasted home. Probably just a blip on the screen for BG's final four run.[/quote]

BG will win 20 games this year.
 
[quote="Marillac" post=301845][quote="bamafan" post=301842][quote="SJU2000alum15" post=301798]By the way VCU only beat Bowling Green by 11 and were outscored by them in the second half.[/quote]
Maybe that's because they had over a 20 point lead in the second half and coasted home. Probably just a blip on the screen for BG's final four run.[/quote]

BG will win 20 games this year.[/quote]

They would have won 20 last year but collapsed in the end. But they won't beat anyone good.
 
One last note on BG (they've probably never had this much attention ever). Their coach is one scary dude. He looked like Mike Rice in his prime in terms of anger. Would not want to be in the locker room after an ugly game as one of his players.
 
Just for sheets and giggles and to tweak Marillac BG needed a tip in at the buzzer to beat 1-3 Hampton.
 
[quote="Marillac" post=301265]Impressed with that BG squad. They were 16-10 at one point last year and that was with Frye as a freshman (all MAC rookie team). They will win 20 IMO and I wouldn't be shocked if they stole one from Buffalo. That kid Turner would be in every rotation in the conference and would start for at least half the league. He's legit.

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Marillac, great call on BG knocking off Buffalo! They just beat them tonight to go to 16-5...so it looks like they will also win 20. You can't be serious about St. John's neatlng Duke @ Cameron as 18.5 pt underdogs though?
 
[quote="austour" post=301855][quote="Marillac" post=301845][quote="bamafan" post=301842][quote="SJU2000alum15" post=301798]By the way VCU only beat Bowling Green by 11 and were outscored by them in the second half.[/quote]
Maybe that's because they had over a 20 point lead in the second half and coasted home. Probably just a blip on the screen for BG's final four run.[/quote]

BG will win 20 games this year.[/quote]

They would have won 20 last year but collapsed in the end. But they won't beat anyone good.[/quote]

Yeah, you are probably right.
 
[quote="Marillac" post=319389][quote="Marillac" post=301265]Impressed with that BG squad. They were 16-10 at one point last year and that was with Frye as a freshman (all MAC rookie team). They will win 20 IMO and I wouldn't be shocked if they stole one from Buffalo. That kid Turner would be in every rotation in the conference and would start for at least half the league. He's legit.

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Marillac, great call on BG knocking off Buffalo! They just beat them tonight to go to 16-5...so it looks like they will also win 20. You can't be serious about St. John's neatlng Duke @ Cameron as 18.5 pt underdogs though?[/quote]

They can beat Duke, Marillac, but they will have to be great. If they can avoid foul trouble I think they win. We are....
 
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