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Eric

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We had buzz early this year all based on the Pitino hire. Losing to Michigan at the garden was such a letdown. Well. The buzz is back and building and building based on the on the court play and I can see over 15-17 grand at the garden for this weeknight game!!!!

Let’s go!!!
 
Ok. I know I constantly harp, but Wednesday is a chance for all fans who have strongly held beliefs that MSG should be our home court to go online today and buy tickets. Stub hub prices starting at $41 before fees, and the 4 pack family specials may still be available at $120.

For all of you Missourians from the Show me State, be advised: You have been shown, and now it's very good. Rise up off your couch, and let's serve notice that St. John's basketball is ALIVE after a long hiatus and finally returned home.

Home court advantage = a home filled with our fans

I hope that was nice enough. Don't want any fans waiting for us to win the Big East championship to be offended.

 
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Beasts of the East said:
Ok. I know I constantly harp, but Wednesday is a chance for all fans who have strongly held beliefs that MSG should be our home court to go online today and buy tickets. Stub hub prices starting at $41 before fees, and the 4 pack family specials may still be available at $120.

For all of you Missourians from the Show me State, be advised: You have been shown, and now it's very good. Rise up off your couch, and let's serve notice that St. John's basketball is ALIVE after a long hiatus and finally returned home.

Home court advantage = a home filled with our fans

I hope that was nice enough. Don't want any fans waiting for us to win the Big East championship to be offended.

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hearing we aren’t even at 10k yet
 
It's tough for a lot of people with families, those who work outside of Manhattan, etc. to make a 6:30 weeknight game. I'd love to go but not going to throw off my baby's sleep schedule or have my wife watch her and do the chores alone. The 12:00 PM Saturday and Sunday games are great and something we'll attend, so I get why attendance in general is a lot lower on weekdays vs. weekends.

That said, 10K fans would be pretty pathetic and tickets on StubHub are dirt cheap. I obviously didn't expect a sell-out, but this should have at least 13-14K fans. Other posters are absolutely correct that'll we'll need to do more to get the attention of casual fans. The majority of fans don't closely follow this stuff on social media but will notice once we beat Top 25 teams (or earn a ranking ourselves). Fortunately we're heading in that direction, possibly very, very soon.
 
ADORAZ said:
It's tough for a lot of people with families, those who work outside of Manhattan, etc. to make a 6:30 weeknight game. I'd love to go but not going to throw off my baby's sleep schedule or have my wife watch her and do the chores alone. The 12:00 PM Saturday and Sunday games are great and something we'll attend, so I get why attendance in general is a lot lower on weekdays vs. weekends.

That said, 10K fans would be pretty pathetic and tickets on StubHub are dirt cheap. I obviously didn't expect a sell-out, but this should have at least 13-14K fans. Other posters are absolutely correct that'll we'll need to do more to get the attention of casual fans. The majority of fans don't closely follow this stuff on social media but will notice once we beat Top 25 teams (or earn a ranking ourselves). Fortunately we're heading in that direction, possibly very, very soon.
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6:30 starts are great for anyone who works in Manhattan, for students or for retirees who don't want to get home too late. Probably not good for those who don't fall in any of those categories but agree that anything less than 10K would be a really big disappointment.
 
On campus some followers would complain that its hard to fight traffic in rush hour to make a 630 game and that there are no good mass transit options

On campus at 830 pm some followers would say that its too late on a work night and too hard to get to.

Then on campus our followers would say its too hot, too uncomfortable, too cramped and too old to attend.

at MSG our followers would say tickets are too expensive, mass transit too expensive, food and drink too expensive.

A 6:30 game is too early, an 8:30 game too late. But if you work in the city 6:30 is easy and for either place 10 million new yorkers are within an hour of penn station by mass transit.

The school has sunk a ton of money into pitino and staff. A literal handful of fans have come through with a couple million in NIL

First followers said we need a good team and a good coach. We have both. Then they said we need to be ranked. We are on the doorstep of that and folllowers are saying we need to win the Big east and get a bid and then fans will show up.

We are in the largest city in the US, and if providence, georgetown, butler, or almost any other bottom rung big east program was doing this well they'd be selling out games.

God knows uconn, Villanova, marguette, Creighton, Xavier, seton Hall even have fans that pack home games.

Seton hall sold out pru center yesterday vs. Marquette - with their own fans.

Creighton sold out home arena vs Providence 17,250

Butler sold out yesterday vs. Uconn. 9,200

Prov home vs seton hall last weds sold 92% of seats 11,000 plus w students home on break

Uconn home last tues vs DePaul sold out 10,299

Our fans do come to games. We just don't have enough fans, just followers.

Sad reality but a 630 game packed the garden back when. Guaranteed if uconn, nova, creighton or about any big east school had pitino and msg our schedule would be just about sold out.

We'd need a nice bump to get to 10k vs. Providence and that's pathetic.

Easiest team to play away for visitors? St johns is amongbthe easiest? Why? Our followers dont show up.
 
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The fanbase isn't pathetic...the basketball team is pathetic. You're simply not going to draw in a pro town when you've been the worst BE team not named Depaul for decades. Yes, we had a big hire. So what? So far we've done nothing - the last hire did nothing and the two previous hires got fired as soon as they danced. Not surprising how few people show up - surprising how many do. The attendance bump caused by the Mullin hire was an anomaly.
 
Beast - Agree with what you said. Just curious though, aside from $ spent on Pitino and now getting preliminary good results, do you believe the school is doing all it can and should be doing from a true marketing perspective to get followers and fans to (re)discover the team and attend games they were not planning to?
 
RedStormNC said:
Beast - Agree with what you said. Just curious though, aside from $ spent on Pitino and now getting preliminary good results, do you believe the school is doing all it can and should be doing from a true marketing perspective to get followers and fans to (re)discover the team and attend games they were not planning to?
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Better people to answer marketing question would be redmen4life and moose who understand sports marketing.

We outsource most marketing to a big name in sports marketing. There appears to be a ton on ads and ton of social media posts, etc, pitino is all over the pace on wfan and other outlets. He even sits in on marketing meetings. Gigantic effort on his part and its technically not his job.

There have been a number of great promotions but again im not qualified to know what is being spent and how. It does appear to be considerable.
 
I think there will be a decent walk up the day of the game. And even if there are only 10k-11k, as long as we are loud and the team keeps winning, the crowds will get bigger.

Nothing will happen or fixed in one year. But I have a very good feeling that we will be having a totally different conversation next year at this time.
 
NCJohnnie said:
6:30 starts are great for anyone who works in Manhattan, for students or for retirees who don't want to get home too late. Probably not good for those who don't fall in any of those categories but agree that anything less than 10K would be a really big disappointment.
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With Telework as prevalent as it is since Covid, there are a lot of people who are only in Manhattan two or three days a week and not five days anymore. That could affect attendance also. Where someone was normally in the office and would just hop over to the game, they’re now working from home that day so they won’t go into the City.
 
When I was a young IDRAFT they told me in History Class that Rome wasn't built in a day. No matter how much browbeating took place on the Roman message boards.

Someone needs to tell the school patience is a virtue. God knows the fans like me who are going tomorrow have had it.
 
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