Article: Mullin to SJU An Awful Hire

[NYCRedmen]

I just came across this article. Writer (along with some on this board from comments I've seen on here) seems to think that the HS kids of today are incapable of knowing or learning about someone's basketball greatness if it occurred before they were born. I personally don't buy that argument but it will be an interesting debate.

http://www.nj.com/rutgersbasketball...in_to_st_johns_is_an_awful_hire_and_a_bu.html

 

[beast of the east]

I just came across this article. Writer (along with some on this board from comments I've seen on here) seems to think that the HS kids of today are incapable of knowing or learning about someone's basketball greatness if it occurred before they were born. I personally don't buy that argument but it will be an interesting debate.

http://www.nj.com/rutgersbasketball...in_to_st_johns_is_an_awful_hire_and_a_bu.html

I know there are lots of professional athletes who have no sense of history. Tons of major league players who had little sense of who Jackie Robinson was. Do you think kids today don't know who Magic Johnson, Bird, Jordan, Jabbar are? If so it's kind of sad, but I don't think it's a huge problem one way or another. I'd also guess they have no real clue who Boeheim, Coack K, Pitino, or Donovan is until they start the recruiting process and those schools are targets.

 

[southernjohnny2]

Although Mullin was not my first choice as he is our Legend, I am fully behind the hire. He will leave no stone unturned and am grateful he is taking the challenge

 

[monte]

I just came across this article. Writer (along with some on this board from comments I've seen on here) seems to think that the HS kids of today are incapable of knowing or learning about someone's basketball greatness if it occurred before they were born. I personally don't buy that argument but it will be an interesting debate.

http://www.nj.com/rutgersbasketball...in_to_st_johns_is_an_awful_hire_and_a_bu.html

I know there are lots of professional athletes who have no sense of history. Tons of major league players who had little sense of who Jackie Robinson was. Do you think kids today don't know who Magic Johnson, Bird, Jordan, Jabbar are? If so it's kind of sad, but I don't think it's a huge problem one way or another. I'd also guess they have no real clue who Boeheim, Coack K, Pitino, or Donovan is until they start the recruiting process and those schools are targets.

Friend of mine's kid(Molloy Grad) plays baseball up at Fairfield. Went up to a game last year and and noticed he was using a George Brett bat. Seeing as George and Donny baseball(during his 6 year run) were IMO the 2 best all around hitters that I've ever seen, I start chatting up the kid about Brett. Kid had no idea who Brett is. Kids today just don't have the same sense of history about sports as we did as kids, especially baseball.

 

[NYCRedmen]

I just came across this article. Writer (along with some on this board from comments I've seen on here) seems to think that the HS kids of today are incapable of knowing or learning about someone's basketball greatness if it occurred before they were born. I personally don't buy that argument but it will be an interesting debate.

http://www.nj.com/rutgersbasketball...in_to_st_johns_is_an_awful_hire_and_a_bu.html

I know there are lots of professional athletes who have no sense of history. Tons of major league players who had little sense of who Jackie Robinson was. Do you think kids today don't know who Magic Johnson, Bird, Jordan, Jabbar are? If so it's kind of sad, but I don't think it's a huge problem one way or another. I'd also guess they have no real clue who Boeheim, Coack K, Pitino, or Donovan is until they start the recruiting process and those schools are targets.

Friend of mine's kid(Molloy Grad) plays baseball up at Fairfield. Went up to a game last year and and noticed he was using a George Brett bat. Seeing as George and Donny baseball(during his 6 year run) were IMO the 2 best all around hitters that I've ever seen, I start chatting up the kid about Brett. Kid had no idea who Brett is. Kids today just don't have the same sense of history about sports as we did as kids, especially baseball.

I think it's all about the individual. Who knows, you could have easily approached another kid on that team who not only would have known who Brett was but Ty Cobb as well. The only way to know for sure is if we start a poll on Redmen.com just for HS aged athletes

 

[Red.Fans]

It's not just that. First, Eddie Jordan is not Mullin. Eddie Jordan was not turning down NBA head coaching jobs within the past few months or drafting NBA players the last several years. Regardless of whether or not he is a legendary player, he is not clueless about what the end goal of just about every top 300 recruit is in the world. Play in the NBA. He's not only been there as a player but he's been there evaluating and making decisions about incoming talent for NBA teams. He's also been part of the decision making process for hiring coaches. He knows what it takes and what recruits need to do to get a chance and do well.

 

[beast of the east]

I just came across this article. Writer (along with some on this board from comments I've seen on here) seems to think that the HS kids of today are incapable of knowing or learning about someone's basketball greatness if it occurred before they were born. I personally don't buy that argument but it will be an interesting debate.

http://www.nj.com/rutgersbasketball...in_to_st_johns_is_an_awful_hire_and_a_bu.html

I know there are lots of professional athletes who have no sense of history. Tons of major league players who had little sense of who Jackie Robinson was. Do you think kids today don't know who Magic Johnson, Bird, Jordan, Jabbar are? If so it's kind of sad, but I don't think it's a huge problem one way or another. I'd also guess they have no real clue who Boeheim, Coack K, Pitino, or Donovan is until they start the recruiting process and those schools are targets.

Friend of mine's kid(Molloy Grad) plays baseball up at Fairfield. Went up to a game last year and and noticed he was using a George Brett bat. Seeing as George and Donny baseball(during his 6 year run) were IMO the 2 best all around hitters that I've ever seen, I start chatting up the kid about Brett. Kid had no idea who Brett is. Kids today just don't have the same sense of history about sports as we did as kids, especially baseball.

Good post. Sent you a PM. Back in our day, you had 3 network channels (2,4,7) three local channels (5,9,11) and PBS, not including VHF (whatever the hell that was). We gravitated to sports, got our information from newspapers (the kind with print), and radio, and could be more likely found in the schoolyard then glued to a set, even when the Knicks were playing. A transistor radio seemed like an extravagance. Kids today are just bombarded with a million media choices and waste their time playing video games.

 

[redken]

I just came across this article. Writer (along with some on this board from comments I've seen on here) seems to think that the HS kids of today are incapable of knowing or learning about someone's basketball greatness if it occurred before they were born. I personally don't buy that argument but it will be an interesting debate.

http://www.nj.com/rutgersbasketball...in_to_st_johns_is_an_awful_hire_and_a_bu.html

I know there are lots of professional athletes who have no sense of history. Tons of major league players who had little sense of who Jackie Robinson was. Do you think kids today don't know who Magic Johnson, Bird, Jordan, Jabbar are? If so it's kind of sad, but I don't think it's a huge problem one way or another. I'd also guess they have no real clue who Boeheim, Coack K, Pitino, or Donovan is until they start the recruiting process and those schools are targets.

Friend of mine's kid(Molloy Grad) plays baseball up at Fairfield. Went up to a game last year and and noticed he was using a George Brett bat. Seeing as George and Donny baseball(during his 6 year run) were IMO the 2 best all around hitters that I've ever seen, I start chatting up the kid about Brett. Kid had no idea who Brett is. Kids today just don't have the same sense of history about sports as we did as kids, especially baseball.

No, but they sure are adept at texting ... including when they're watching sports.

 

[Marillac]

I just came across this article. Writer (along with some on this board from comments I've seen on here) seems to think that the HS kids of today are incapable of knowing or learning about someone's basketball greatness if it occurred before they were born. I personally don't buy that argument but it will be an interesting debate.

http://www.nj.com/rutgersbasketball...in_to_st_johns_is_an_awful_hire_and_a_bu.html

I know there are lots of professional athletes who have no sense of history. Tons of major league players who had little sense of who Jackie Robinson was. Do you think kids today don't know who Magic Johnson, Bird, Jordan, Jabbar are? If so it's kind of sad, but I don't think it's a huge problem one way or another. I'd also guess they have no real clue who Boeheim, Coack K, Pitino, or Donovan is until they start the recruiting process and those schools are targets.

Friend of mine's kid(Molloy Grad) plays baseball up at Fairfield. Went up to a game last year and and noticed he was using a George Brett bat. Seeing as George and Donny baseball(during his 6 year run) were IMO the 2 best all around hitters that I've ever seen, I start chatting up the kid about Brett. Kid had no idea who Brett is. Kids today just don't have the same sense of history about sports as we did as kids, especially baseball.

I think we need to be careful not to use too broad of brush. Remember, guys like myself, Avon, Moose, and Desco were all 80's babies, and we know our share about sports history. I spoke to a Mizzou freshman (sports journalist hopeful) that would wow just about any of us with his knowledge.

Every kid knows about the Dream Team. They might not know Chris was on it, but that could just increase the awe factor when they find out. Mullin doesn't even have to say a thing about his resume. The kid's parents, advisers, or coaches will be able to roll of a dozen facts about Christ that will knock the kid to the floor. "Do you know who you were just talking to?"

 

[Johnny Drama]

I just came across this article. Writer (along with some on this board from comments I've seen on here) seems to think that the HS kids of today are incapable of knowing or learning about someone's basketball greatness if it occurred before they were born. I personally don't buy that argument but it will be an interesting debate.

http://www.nj.com/rutgersbasketball...in_to_st_johns_is_an_awful_hire_and_a_bu.html

I know there are lots of professional athletes who have no sense of history. Tons of major league players who had little sense of who Jackie Robinson was. Do you think kids today don't know who Magic Johnson, Bird, Jordan, Jabbar are? If so it's kind of sad, but I don't think it's a huge problem one way or another. I'd also guess they have no real clue who Boeheim, Coack K, Pitino, or Donovan is until they start the recruiting process and those schools are targets.

Friend of mine's kid(Molloy Grad) plays baseball up at Fairfield. Went up to a game last year and and noticed he was using a George Brett bat. Seeing as George and Donny baseball(during his 6 year run) were IMO the 2 best all around hitters that I've ever seen, I start chatting up the kid about Brett. Kid had no idea who Brett is. Kids today just don't have the same sense of history about sports as we did as kids, especially baseball.

You want to compare Brett to Mullin in NYC? C'mon now. Both of them are legends, but if you expect a young kid to know Brett in NYC you're nuts.

 

[beast of the east]

k

I just came across this article. Writer (along with some on this board from comments I've seen on here) seems to think that the HS kids of today are incapable of knowing or learning about someone's basketball greatness if it occurred before they were born. I personally don't buy that argument but it will be an interesting debate.

http://www.nj.com/rutgersbasketball...in_to_st_johns_is_an_awful_hire_and_a_bu.html

I know there are lots of professional athletes who have no sense of history. Tons of major league players who had little sense of who Jackie Robinson was. Do you think kids today don't know who Magic Johnson, Bird, Jordan, Jabbar are? If so it's kind of sad, but I don't think it's a huge problem one way or another. I'd also guess they have no real clue who Boeheim, Coack K, Pitino, or Donovan is until they start the recruiting process and those schools are targets.

Friend of mine's kid(Molloy Grad) plays baseball up at Fairfield. Went up to a game last year and and noticed he was using a George Brett bat. Seeing as George and Donny baseball(during his 6 year run) were IMO the 2 best all around hitters that I've ever seen, I start chatting up the kid about Brett. Kid had no idea who Brett is. Kids today just don't have the same sense of history about sports as we did as kids, especially baseball.

I think we need to be careful not to use too broad of brush. Remember, guys like myself, Avon, Moose, and Desco were all 80's babies, and we know our share about sports history. I spoke to a Mizzou freshman (sports journalist hopeful) that would wow just about any of us with his knowledge.

Every kid knows about the Dream Team. They might not know Chris was on it, but that could just increase the awe factor when they find out. Mullin doesn't even have to say a thing about his resume. The kid's parents, advisers, or coaches will be able to roll of a dozen facts about Christ that will knock the kid to the floor. "Do you know who you were just talking to?"

You guys are all amazing fans, even Avon. Even Avon. Even Avon.

 

[monte]

I just came across this article. Writer (along with some on this board from comments I've seen on here) seems to think that the HS kids of today are incapable of knowing or learning about someone's basketball greatness if it occurred before they were born. I personally don't buy that argument but it will be an interesting debate.

http://www.nj.com/rutgersbasketball...in_to_st_johns_is_an_awful_hire_and_a_bu.html

I know there are lots of professional athletes who have no sense of history. Tons of major league players who had little sense of who Jackie Robinson was. Do you think kids today don't know who Magic Johnson, Bird, Jordan, Jabbar are? If so it's kind of sad, but I don't think it's a huge problem one way or another. I'd also guess they have no real clue who Boeheim, Coack K, Pitino, or Donovan is until they start the recruiting process and those schools are targets.

Friend of mine's kid(Molloy Grad) plays baseball up at Fairfield. Went up to a game last year and and noticed he was using a George Brett bat. Seeing as George and Donny baseball(during his 6 year run) were IMO the 2 best all around hitters that I've ever seen, I start chatting up the kid about Brett. Kid had no idea who Brett is. Kids today just don't have the same sense of history about sports as we did as kids, especially baseball.

You want to compare Brett to Mullin in NYC? C'mon now. Both of them are legends, but if you expect a young kid to know Brett in NYC you're nuts.

Drama you read my post? They kid was a high school baseball player and is now a college baseball player, who was using the bat of a HOF player(from not so long ago) who's name he didn't know. You don't find that odd? And if you continue with the name calling, I'm gonna start a thread about you.

 

[TX Redman]

Sounds like sour grapes from a NJ guy that covers Rutgers. "Thou shalt not covet..." etc.

 

[Russ2374]

I just came across this article. Writer (along with some on this board from comments I've seen on here) seems to think that the HS kids of today are incapable of knowing or learning about someone's basketball greatness if it occurred before they were born. I personally don't buy that argument but it will be an interesting debate.

http://www.nj.com/rutgersbasketball...in_to_st_johns_is_an_awful_hire_and_a_bu.html

This is BS. We did not hire Mullin to compete with Seton Hall or Rutgers. We are already better than both of them. We are making this hire to compete with the big boys on a national level. While it's an obvious risk and I have my concerns, sometimes that's what you have to do in order to make a breakthrough.

So what if the kids don't know who Chris is. This is insulting and assumes that this is just a gimmick hire to get recruits. If Chris is taking this job he will put 100% into it and work his butt off. If he wants to be successful he will be. Bottom line.

There are plenty of kids who know who he is and would be excited to play for an NBA legend. Especially in this city. The HS and AAU coaches who have a big influence as to where kids go certainly know who he is. When we start winning even the kids that don't know Chris will want to come. Soon there will be less and less who don't know who he is.

Today feels like it does 5 mins before tipoff of a big game. I'm scared to death about this hire but at the same time very excited about the possibilities. I wouldn't bet against Chris Mullin ever. Good luck to those who doubt him.

 

[southernjohnny2]

k

I just came across this article. Writer (along with some on this board from comments I've seen on here) seems to think that the HS kids of today are incapable of knowing or learning about someone's basketball greatness if it occurred before they were born. I personally don't buy that argument but it will be an interesting debate.

http://www.nj.com/rutgersbasketball...in_to_st_johns_is_an_awful_hire_and_a_bu.html

I know there are lots of professional athletes who have no sense of history. Tons of major league players who had little sense of who Jackie Robinson was. Do you think kids today don't know who Magic Johnson, Bird, Jordan, Jabbar are? If so it's kind of sad, but I don't think it's a huge problem one way or another. I'd also guess they have no real clue who Boeheim, Coack K, Pitino, or Donovan is until they start the recruiting process and those schools are targets.

Friend of mine's kid(Molloy Grad) plays baseball up at Fairfield. Went up to a game last year and and noticed he was using a George Brett bat. Seeing as George and Donny baseball(during his 6 year run) were IMO the 2 best all around hitters that I've ever seen, I start chatting up the kid about Brett. Kid had no idea who Brett is. Kids today just don't have the same sense of history about sports as we did as kids, especially baseball.

I think we need to be careful not to use too broad of brush. Remember, guys like myself, Avon, Moose, and Desco were all 80's babies, and we know our share about sports history. I spoke to a Mizzou freshman (sports journalist hopeful) that would wow just about any of us with his knowledge.

Every kid knows about the Dream Team. They might not know Chris was on it, but that could just increase the awe factor when they find out. Mullin doesn't even have to say a thing about his resume. The kid's parents, advisers, or coaches will be able to roll of a dozen facts about Christ that will knock the kid to the floor. "Do you know who you were just talking to?"

You guys are all amazing fans, even Avon. Even Avon. Even Avon.

Avon is a great stj fan, we used to battle all the time on old beb boards, but not because I didn't like him, quite the contrary we both wanted to win more than anything! Just had different ideas to get there, hopefully this hire solves all problems

 

[Marillac]

Back to the point of this post, we've got it covered. Baldi, Avon, Paultzman, MJMaher, and Marillac are posted outside of the writer's house right now waiting for him to emerge. Beast of the East, Fun, Jack Williams, and TXRedmen have next shift. When he finally comes out, I can assure you this will be the last time he publishes anything bad about Mullin.

 

[beast of the east]

k

I just came across this article. Writer (along with some on this board from comments I've seen on here) seems to think that the HS kids of today are incapable of knowing or learning about someone's basketball greatness if it occurred before they were born. I personally don't buy that argument but it will be an interesting debate.

http://www.nj.com/rutgersbasketball...in_to_st_johns_is_an_awful_hire_and_a_bu.html

I know there are lots of professional athletes who have no sense of history. Tons of major league players who had little sense of who Jackie Robinson was. Do you think kids today don't know who Magic Johnson, Bird, Jordan, Jabbar are? If so it's kind of sad, but I don't think it's a huge problem one way or another. I'd also guess they have no real clue who Boeheim, Coack K, Pitino, or Donovan is until they start the recruiting process and those schools are targets.

Friend of mine's kid(Molloy Grad) plays baseball up at Fairfield. Went up to a game last year and and noticed he was using a George Brett bat. Seeing as George and Donny baseball(during his 6 year run) were IMO the 2 best all around hitters that I've ever seen, I start chatting up the kid about Brett. Kid had no idea who Brett is. Kids today just don't have the same sense of history about sports as we did as kids, especially baseball.

I think we need to be careful not to use too broad of brush. Remember, guys like myself, Avon, Moose, and Desco were all 80's babies, and we know our share about sports history. I spoke to a Mizzou freshman (sports journalist hopeful) that would wow just about any of us with his knowledge.

Every kid knows about the Dream Team. They might not know Chris was on it, but that could just increase the awe factor when they find out. Mullin doesn't even have to say a thing about his resume. The kid's parents, advisers, or coaches will be able to roll of a dozen facts about Christ that will knock the kid to the floor. "Do you know who you were just talking to?"

You guys are all amazing fans, even Avon. Even Avon. Even Avon.

Avon is a great stj fan, we used to battle all the time on old beb boards, but not because I didn't like him, quite the contrary we both wanted to win more than anything! Just had different ideas to get there, hopefully this hire solves all problems

I war with him also. We both say public things to each other that we regret - especially me. Then I PM him to apologize. He IS a good guy and a passionate fan.

 

[mjmaherjr]

Back to the point of this post, we've got it covered. Baldi, Avon, Paultzman, MJMaher, and Marillac are posted outside of the writer's house right now waiting for him to emerge. Beast of the East, Fun, Jack Williams, and TXRedmen have next shift. When he finally comes out, I can assure you this will be the last time he publishes anything bad about Mullin.

This guy has no shot. Avon already brought the dead fish. Baldi's got the cannolis and Paultz will drive the get away car and you and I will pull an Ron-Ron detroit on him

 

[southernjohnny2]

k

I just came across this article. Writer (along with some on this board from comments I've seen on here) seems to think that the HS kids of today are incapable of knowing or learning about someone's basketball greatness if it occurred before they were born. I personally don't buy that argument but it will be an interesting debate.

http://www.nj.com/rutgersbasketball...in_to_st_johns_is_an_awful_hire_and_a_bu.html

I know there are lots of professional athletes who have no sense of history. Tons of major league players who had little sense of who Jackie Robinson was. Do you think kids today don't know who Magic Johnson, Bird, Jordan, Jabbar are? If so it's kind of sad, but I don't think it's a huge problem one way or another. I'd also guess they have no real clue who Boeheim, Coack K, Pitino, or Donovan is until they start the recruiting process and those schools are targets.

Friend of mine's kid(Molloy Grad) plays baseball up at Fairfield. Went up to a game last year and and noticed he was using a George Brett bat. Seeing as George and Donny baseball(during his 6 year run) were IMO the 2 best all around hitters that I've ever seen, I start chatting up the kid about Brett. Kid had no idea who Brett is. Kids today just don't have the same sense of history about sports as we did as kids, especially baseball.

I think we need to be careful not to use too broad of brush. Remember, guys like myself, Avon, Moose, and Desco were all 80's babies, and we know our share about sports history. I spoke to a Mizzou freshman (sports journalist hopeful) that would wow just about any of us with his knowledge.

Every kid knows about the Dream Team. They might not know Chris was on it, but that could just increase the awe factor when they find out. Mullin doesn't even have to say a thing about his resume. The kid's parents, advisers, or coaches will be able to roll of a dozen facts about Christ that will knock the kid to the floor. "Do you know who you were just talking to?"

You guys are all amazing fans, even Avon. Even Avon. Even Avon.

Avon is a great stj fan, we used to battle all the time on old beb boards, but not because I didn't like him, quite the contrary we both wanted to win more than anything! Just had different ideas to get there, hopefully this hire solves all problems

I war with him also. We both say public things to each other that we regret - especially me. Then I PM him to apologize. He IS a good guy and a passionate fan.

Beast you and I were almost always on the same side! We used to PM each other

 

[monte]

I just came across this article. Writer (along with some on this board from comments I've seen on here) seems to think that the HS kids of today are incapable of knowing or learning about someone's basketball greatness if it occurred before they were born. I personally don't buy that argument but it will be an interesting debate.

http://www.nj.com/rutgersbasketball...in_to_st_johns_is_an_awful_hire_and_a_bu.html

I know there are lots of professional athletes who have no sense of history. Tons of major league players who had little sense of who Jackie Robinson was. Do you think kids today don't know who Magic Johnson, Bird, Jordan, Jabbar are? If so it's kind of sad, but I don't think it's a huge problem one way or another. I'd also guess they have no real clue who Boeheim, Coack K, Pitino, or Donovan is until they start the recruiting process and those schools are targets.

Friend of mine's kid(Molloy Grad) plays baseball up at Fairfield. Went up to a game last year and and noticed he was using a George Brett bat. Seeing as George and Donny baseball(during his 6 year run) were IMO the 2 best all around hitters that I've ever seen, I start chatting up the kid about Brett. Kid had no idea who Brett is. Kids today just don't have the same sense of history about sports as we did as kids, especially baseball.

Good post. Sent you a PM. Back in our day, you had 3 network channels (2,4,7) three local channels (5,9,11) and PBS, not including VHF (whatever the hell that was). We gravitated to sports, got our information from newspapers (the kind with print), and radio, and could be more likely found in the schoolyard then glued to a set, even when the Knicks were playing. A transistor radio seemed like an extravagance. Kids today are just bombarded with a million media choices and waste their time playing video games.

Back then only knick road games were televises, and not all of them. The Yanks and Mets usually aired about 50 games a year. The school yard and parks were places where some news and information was disseminated amongst friends. When the Yankees signed Catfish Hunter, my friends and I stayed up all night just so we could buy the newspaper as soon as it was delivered in the morning. We were dying to read about the signing. Newspapers were how we got the bulk of our news. sports and otherwise. Will check PM