Around the Big East 25-26

lawmanfan said:
I would take the other side of that bet.
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Maybe not this year but I think Providence is a tough place to coach and Cooley got them to a level where they would compete for NCAA bids and I think English can get them back there. The division between the haves and have nots is only going to get wider and if your like providence you’re going to need someone who will scratch and clue for every edge. I looked at English as a young and hungry coach whose played the modern game at a high level. Between him and Gomes I can see them having success. And of course I mean the relative success of a team without an NIL budget.

Let’s put it this way, if English coached Rutgers last year they would have made it to at least the round of 32 🤣
 
“Rick Speak” in good form re PG;

St. John's
Everyone's been wondering whether talented North Carolina transfer Ian Jackson can handle the point guard role after never really playing the position before. But Rick Pitino recently posed this question to his team: "Who played point guard this season for the Celtics, Lakers or Knicks?"

None of his players could answer. Why? Because in this day of position-less basketball, according to Pitino, "the point guard is long gone."

And anyway, he added, Stanford transfer Oziyah Sellers will handle the ball the most this season, backed up by Idaho State transfer Dylan Darling.

 
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RedStormRising said:
What was his meltdown? I keep typing Kim English meltdown into google and all the algorithm wants to talk about is Kim kardashians secret meltdown at Jeff Bezos wedding
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He has had a lot to say about other teams, refs, his players, etc. First year when things were going well for Providence I thought he is this personable, positive guy, something like Lavin with maybe coaching ability. As soon as things went south in Year 2 you saw a whole different side of him.

The historical LMF theory of coaches who inherit strong programs is that you throw out the first year, you put some weight on the second year, and by the third year you start to have an idea what the guy really is. The fourth year you know for sure. Examples that come to mind are Juwan Howard at Michigan (bad) and Jamie Dixon at Pitt (good).

I don't know if that theory is still applicable in the modern world - the variables are just much different than they used to be. But there is definitely reason to believe that Year 1 English was a beneficiary of the Cooley tailwind and that Year 2 is more representative of who he actually is.

I don't think Providence will be as bad this year, and given the top-heaviness of the conference I think they can be a middle-of-the-pack option and get over .500 by a bit. But I don't know that it will be enough progress for English to be retained if the decision is "fire or extend."

Overall Providence is in a tough spot, they are ahead of Seton Hall but definitely towards the lower end of the conference in funding and attractiveness to players.
 
lawmanfan said:
He has had a lot to say about other teams, refs, his players, etc. First year when things were going well for Providence I thought he is this personable, positive guy, something like Lavin with maybe coaching ability. As soon as things went south in Year 2 you saw a whole different side of him.

The historical LMF theory of coaches who inherit strong programs is that you throw out the first year, you put some weight on the second year, and by the third year you start to have an idea what the guy really is. The fourth year you know for sure. Examples that come to mind are Juwan Howard at Michigan (bad) and Jamie Dixon at Pitt (good).

I don't know if that theory is still applicable in the modern world - the variables are just much different than they used to be. But there is definitely reason to believe that Year 1 English was a beneficiary of the Cooley tailwind and that Year 2 is more representative of who he actually is.

I don't think Providence will be as bad this year, and given the top-heaviness of the conference I think they can be a middle-of-the-pack option and get over .500 by a bit. But I don't know that it will be enough progress for English to be retained if the decision is "fire or extend."

Overall Providence is in a tough spot, they are ahead of Seton Hall but definitely towards the lower end of the conference in funding and attractiveness to players.
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Thank you.
 
Seems to me Providence has enough talent to finish 5th in the Big east. If they finish 5th or 6th I think English is safe for another year but this is a big year for him for sure.
 
paultzman said:
“Rick Speak” in good form re PG;

St. John's
Everyone's been wondering whether talented North Carolina transfer Ian Jackson can handle the point guard role after never really playing the position before. But Rick Pitino recently posed this question to his team: "Who played point guard this season for the Celtics, Lakers or Knicks?"

None of his players could answer. Why? Because in this day of position-less basketball, according to Pitino, "the point guard is long gone."

And anyway, he added, Stanford transfer Oziyah Sellers will handle the ball the most this season, backed up by Idaho State transfer Dylan Darling.

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Typical Pitino, after all, he and Jackson were the ones who touted him the “point guard”. In fact, the second to last post in the Jackson recruit thread, posted by espken, quotes Jackson to that effect.
 
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