Around the Big East 19/20

[quote="austour" post=384755][quote="MCNPA" post=384652][quote="L J S A" post=384649][quote="MCNPA" post=384643][quote="Paultzman" post=384642]Sense LJ decision wait will be a long one.[/quote]

If that’s the case, we should go out and land a grad transfer ASAP. Can’t be waiting on our refining leading scorer forever.[/quote]

How does it look to others if we move on prematurely from non-troublemaking kids who aren't ready to be moved on from, though? I could see it if we were hammered by sanctions or decimated by injury and he was dilly-dallying with one of only nine or 10 spots, but we have 12 guys presumably ready to go.[/quote]

This isn’t premature. We are in April and LJ our number 1 potential returning player. We have depth but we aren’t loaded with front end talent and LJ is likely our most experienced and best talent overall. It doesn’t seem to be effecting others because we aren’t at the stage where we are landing top talent. Losing LJ would be a big loss. Not replacing him with any talent a bigger loss. We’d be entering the season with one juco wing scorer only which we are hanging our hat on. Teams like uconn have 3-4 of them.[/quote]

Two things. First there's no scenario, virus or not, where LJ gets drafted. So that's obviously not what he's waiting for. More likely he's wondering if it's worth it to look for other basketball employment overseas at this point given the virus situation. Here's a hint for him. It's not. There are going to be limitations to society that hamper his prospects for 12 months or more. Waiting another year and potentially improving your stock value is the prudent decision. In any other year I would not agree with that last statement.

Second, is there really any "front end" talent for 20/21 out there to be had at this point? Yeah, there's some guys who might be productive off the bench on a good team, but one thing I feel confident in is that the present roster has guys who might be productive off the bench already? There's certainly no one out there who can replace what LJ gave the team last year, much less what we hoped he would actually give the team. The players on the roster now, based on skills and/or experience, are going to be the best options regardless of what JCs, frosh or grad transfers the staff might replace LJ with should he choose to leave.[/quote]

I don’t disagree with you. We could have filled that spot if he had made a decision earlier. There were a lot of good grad wings. That said I agree that LJ isn’t getting drafted to NBA and the picture overseas is really hazy right now. Bad time to go pro honestly. We are certainly between a rock and a hard place here but at this point have to go with what we have. My confidence in him returning is certainly moderate considering how long he took to re-commit to play for Mike Anderson. Hopefully the kid sees the benefit of finishing out his last season and getting a degree, especially in this climate with the pandemic and all. I’d hate to lose bus ability as a scorer though and have to hope the new guys will replace some of that ability.
 
[quote="MCNPA" post=384759] I’d hate to lose bus ability as a scorer though and have to hope the new guys will replace some of that ability.[/quote]

That's why you should think like me and just assume he's not coming back, and figure out a way to be as positive as possible about the roster as presently constructed. then if he returns it's gravy.
 
[quote="austour" post=384761][quote="MCNPA" post=384759] I’d hate to lose bus ability as a scorer though and have to hope the new guys will replace some of that ability.[/quote]

That's why you should think like me and just assume he's not coming back, and figure out a way to be as positive as possible about the roster as presently constructed. then if he returns it's gravy.[/quote]

Yeah I suppose you’re right. At this point that is the scenario and we can’t change it.
 
[quote="MCNPA" post=384764][quote="austour" post=384761][quote="MCNPA" post=384759] I’d hate to lose bus ability as a scorer though and have to hope the new guys will replace some of that ability.[/quote]

That's why you should think like me and just assume he's not coming back, and figure out a way to be as positive as possible about the roster as presently constructed. then if he returns:) it's gravy.[/quote]

Yeah I suppose you’re right. At this point that is the scenario and we can’t change it.[/quote]

So gravy works but cherry on top doesn’t?:)
 
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[quote="MJDinkins" post=384742][quote="redmannorth" post=384739][quote="PharmDJohnnie11" post=384725][quote="L J S A" post=384635][quote="PharmDJohnnie11" post=384632]Would be pretty cool if St. John's got involved with a top transfer or landed one 4 star recruit...[/quote]

Do you want him to be a walk on? Or do you propose that we yank a scholarship from one of our 13 currently filled slots?[/quote]

If this staff was able to land a top recruit I'm sure they'd be able to make room for them somehow. It doesn't stop top programs from recruiting over other players currently on the roster.[/quote]

There is so much wrong with your post I don’t know where to start.
First off we are not a top program and have not been one for a very long time. So how you can compare us to «  top programs «  is beyond my comprehension. We have finally had two winning seasons in a row and each one was by a small margin.
Secondly, as was pointed out by LJSA we don’t have a ship to give.
Thirdly, we have a very nice and deep team set for next season. While we may not have studs at every position we have good solid players 10 deep and possibly 11 based upon Roberts recovery. Top players want playing time, whether it be at SJU or elsewhere. Even at the center position, which I would assume is our weakest position, we still have a few solid bodies. It would be exceptionally difficult to promise someone 25 minutes a game , which is what a top recruit would want.
Fourth, and I believe as pointed out by SJUfan2 a few weeks ago, CMA is trying to build a program, Instill a culture, with a true family atmosphere, with a great value on school and hard work. In my opinion he has done a great job of that these last 11 months, in fact and amazing job , and built up a ton of good will in the local coaching fraternity. Now you want him to toss a good kid off of the team in the hope that the transfer who wants to go to SJU will perform better than one of our players at the end of the bench ? Sorry but that just doesn’t fly in my books and more importantly for CMA.
There is a lot to be said for continuity and no drama. These last few seasons players were coming and players were going. I am thrilled those days are gone and believe we can look forward to a stable roster with improvement on a yearly basis and relatively little drama.[/quote]

^^^^
This!

I still believe Figueroa will return, and I have a hunch he and Cole will play well off one another.[/quote]

Me too. Posh, cole, figgy, duke and penny. Who in the big east would want to see that lineup? We are set up to have some year.
 
[quote="redmannorth" post=384739][quote="PharmDJohnnie11" post=384725][quote="L J S A" post=384635][quote="PharmDJohnnie11" post=384632]Would be pretty cool if St. John's got involved with a top transfer or landed one 4 star recruit...[/quote]

Do you want him to be a walk on? Or do you propose that we yank a scholarship from one of our 13 currently filled slots?[/quote]

If this staff was able to land a top recruit I'm sure they'd be able to make room for them somehow. It doesn't stop top programs from recruiting over other players currently on the roster.[/quote]

There is so much wrong with your post I don’t know where to start.
First off we are not a top program and have not been one for a very long time. So how you can compare us to «  top programs «  is beyond my comprehension. We have finally had two winning seasons in a row and each one was by a small margin.
Secondly, as was pointed out by LJSA we don’t have a ship to give.
Thirdly, we have a very nice and deep team set for next season. While we may not have studs at every position we have good solid players 10 deep and possibly 11 based upon Roberts recovery. Top players want playing time, whether it be at SJU or elsewhere. Even at the center position, which I would assume is our weakest position, we still have a few solid bodies. It would be exceptionally difficult to promise someone 25 minutes a game , which is what a top recruit would want.
Fourth, and I believe as pointed out by SJUfan2 a few weeks ago, CMA is trying to build a program, Instill a culture, with a true family atmosphere, with a great value on school and hard work. In my opinion he has done a great job of that these last 11 months, in fact and amazing job , and built up a ton of good will in the local coaching fraternity. Now you want him to toss a good kid off of the team in the hope that the transfer who wants to go to SJU will perform better than one of our players at the end of the bench ? Sorry but that just doesn’t fly in my books and more importantly for CMA.
There is a lot to be said for continuity and no drama. These last few seasons players were coming and players were going. I am thrilled those days are gone and believe we can look forward to a stable roster with improvement on a yearly basis and relatively little drama.[/quote]

There's so many things wrong with your post I don't know where to start. I don't know how you did in reading comprehension, but I never said SJU was a top program. I said top programs recruit over teams on the team on a yearly basis. Never that SJU was one.

In order to win you need top talent. This first recruiting class by CMA was very nice. I'm looking forward to seeing them play this year. But if this is going to be the top level of talent he gets in his recruiting classes we aren't going anywhere, but maybe 5th-6th in the Big East on a consistent basis. Some, like you, would probably be thrilled with this as I don't think we finished that high since the new Big East debuted, but I'm not satisfied with mediocrity.

The Seton Hall forum moderator probably could have posted the same gist of a post you did just now 5 years ago, but they landed an amazing class loaded with top talent that kick started their program into becoming a consistent winner. We need a class like that. I don't care who's feelings on the current team is hurt if they get recruited over.

I think the jury is still out on CMA. He has done a nice job so far, but things have got to pick up if he wants to build a consistent high end winner, unlike what he was able to do at Arkansas, which I feel is our current trajectory. Middle of the pack in conference, sprinkle in a few NCAA appearances here and there. That's fine if you like mediocrity. It's better than SJU has been the past decade. But I don't want to settle for that. The family environment is cute and all, but I don't really care about that to be honest. I'd much rather just win.

It may not seem realistic now, but as Seton Hall has taught us that you just need that one big class, and that could build huge momentum for your program going forward. I'm currently still waiting for CMA to deliver on that, and I think he and the staff are capable of it.
 
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We don’t NEED an insane recruiting class to be good. A lot of posters fetishize high school rankings so much on this site. What just because Vince Cole doesn’t have 4 stars next to his name on ESPN and the “Top 100” label he isn’t a high level recruit?

Here’s a link, [URL]https://www.jucorecruiting.com/2020-junior-college-basketball-player-rankings-top-100[/URL]

Since so many are obsessed with these rankings here’s Vince Cole, our JUCO all American, #6 on the list. Sure, maybe JUCO guys don’t always pan out, but highly rated high school recruits don’t always pan out either.

Oh and by the way, you don’t even have to a scroll down that JUCO page far at all to find another St. John’s commit, Moore at #14.

But yes, jury is OUT on Mike A because he didn’t get a seton hall type class from years ago. Because that’s clearly the only way to have success in college basketball.

If all it took was ONE BIG CLASS, then Steve Lavin would still be the coach here to this day.

But yea gotta love redmen.com, the site where people just decide there’s only one way to build a winner and say the jury’s out on a coach when he isn’t following the one way we’ve decided is necessary. Time will tell, but I trust Mike A’s vision, we don’t need to swing (and probably miss) at a bunch of 4 and 5 stars, we are building a culture
 
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[quote="PharmDJohnnie11" post=384797][quote="redmannorth" post=384739][quote="PharmDJohnnie11" post=384725][quote="L J S A" post=384635][quote="PharmDJohnnie11" post=384632]Would be pretty cool if St. John's got involved with a top transfer or landed one 4 star recruit...[/quote]

Do you want him to be a walk on? Or do you propose that we yank a scholarship from one of our 13 currently filled slots?[/quote]

If this staff was able to land a top recruit I'm sure they'd be able to make room for them somehow. It doesn't stop top programs from recruiting over other players currently on the roster.[/quote]

There is so much wrong with your post I don’t know where to start.
First off we are not a top program and have not been one for a very long time. So how you can compare us to «  top programs «  is beyond my comprehension. We have finally had two winning seasons in a row and each one was by a small margin.
Secondly, as was pointed out by LJSA we don’t have a ship to give.
Thirdly, we have a very nice and deep team set for next season. While we may not have studs at every position we have good solid players 10 deep and possibly 11 based upon Roberts recovery. Top players want playing time, whether it be at SJU or elsewhere. Even at the center position, which I would assume is our weakest position, we still have a few solid bodies. It would be exceptionally difficult to promise someone 25 minutes a game , which is what a top recruit would want.
Fourth, and I believe as pointed out by SJUfan2 a few weeks ago, CMA is trying to build a program, Instill a culture, with a true family atmosphere, with a great value on school and hard work. In my opinion he has done a great job of that these last 11 months, in fact and amazing job , and built up a ton of good will in the local coaching fraternity. Now you want him to toss a good kid off of the team in the hope that the transfer who wants to go to SJU will perform better than one of our players at the end of the bench ? Sorry but that just doesn’t fly in my books and more importantly for CMA.
There is a lot to be said for continuity and no drama. These last few seasons players were coming and players were going. I am thrilled those days are gone and believe we can look forward to a stable roster with improvement on a yearly basis and relatively little drama.[/quote]

There's so many things wrong with your post I don't know where to start. I don't know how you did in reading comprehension, but I never said SJU was a top program. I said top programs recruit over teams on the team on a yearly basis. Never that SJU was one.

In order to win you need top talent. This first recruiting class by CMA was very nice. I'm looking forward to seeing them play this year. But if this is going to be the top level of talent he gets in his recruiting classes we aren't going anywhere, but maybe 5th-6th in the Big East on a consistent basis. Some, like you, would probably be thrilled with this as I don't think we finished that high since the new Big East debuted, but I'm not satisfied with mediocrity.

The Seton Hall forum moderator probably could have posted the same gist of a post you did just now 5 years ago, but they landed an amazing class loaded with top talent that kick started their program into becoming a consistent winner. We need a class like that. I don't care who's feelings on the current team is hurt if they get recruited over.

I think the jury is still out on CMA. He has done a nice job so far, but things have got to pick up if he wants to build a consistent high end winner, unlike what he was able to do at Arkansas, which I feel is our current trajectory. Middle of the pack in conference, sprinkle in a few NCAA appearances here and there. That's fine if you like mediocrity. It's better than SJU has been the past decade. But I don't want to settle for that. The family environment is cute and all, but I don't really care about that to be honest. I'd much rather just win.

It may not seem realistic now, but as Seton Hall has taught us that you just need that one big class, and that could build huge momentum for your program going forward. I'm currently still waiting for CMA to deliver on that, and I think he and the staff are capable of it.[/quote]

What has seton hall ever won?? They havent even reached the sweet 16 in 20 years.

Villanova would be your example of a winner. Seton hall.......my goodness.
 
[quote="Duke of Earlington" post=384804]What has seton hall ever won?? They havent even reached the sweet 16 in 20 years.

Villanova would be your example of a winner. Seton hall.......my goodness.[/quote]

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Other than winning the Big East Tournament a few years ago, I don't get the obsession by a small faction.

Real deal.... I separately asked a fan of ours, a UNC fan and a Georgetown fan about Seton Hall. Hell! I was wondering whether I was missing something or not (I'm partially clowning around, as I was more interested in other's thoughts on this peculiar obsession and felt they'd scratch their heads like me).

Of course, the Tar Heel fan thought it was a joke!
The Johnnies and Hoya fan basically wondered why emulate Seton Hall when you have Villanova in the same conference that's far more worthy of imitation.
 
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[quote="Jack Williams" post=384798]We don’t NEED an insane recruiting class to be good. A lot of posters fetishize high school rankings so much on this site. What just because Vince Cole doesn’t have 4 stars next to his name on ESPN and the “Top 100” label he isn’t a high level recruit?

Here’s a link, [URL]https://www.jucorecruiting.com/2020-junior-college-basketball-player-rankings-top-100[/URL]

Since so many are obsessed with these rankings here’s Vince Cole, our JUCO all American, #6 on the list. Sure, maybe JUCO guys don’t always pan out, but highly rated high school recruits don’t always pan out either.

Oh and by the way, you don’t even have to a scroll down that JUCO page far at all to find another St. John’s commit, Moore at #14.

But yes, jury is OUT on Mike A because he didn’t get a seton hall type class from years ago. Because that’s clearly the only way to have success in college basketball.

If all it took was ONE BIG CLASS, then Steve Lavin would still be the coach here to this day.

But yea gotta love redmen.com, the site where people just decide there’s only one way to build a winner and say the jury’s out on a coach when he isn’t following the one way we’ve decided is necessary. Time will tell, but I trust Mike A’s vision, we don’t need to swing (and probably miss) at a bunch of 4 and 5 stars, we are building a culture[/quote]

Jack....love your use of the word "fetishize". Nicely done!

Also, to your same point, many of these highly ranked JUCOs and transfers are examples of kids that may have initially been 2 or 3 star prospects. Now, they have developed into more talented upperclassmen. I think players like Wusu and Champagnie fit that same bill.

Of course, you can't have an entire roster made up of speculative potential. We will want the occasional 4-star kids (maybe one per year after we are a consistent winner). However, given CMA's track record for development, I am comfortable with our current situation and direction.
 
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Not helpful for Creighton on heels of losing Mintz

Creighton guard Ty-Shon Alexander (16.9 ppg) expected to declare for the NBA Draft & barring a change of heart, his intention is to remain in the draft and bypass his senior season, NBA source told @Stadium.
 
[quote="Moose" post=384811]Tyshawn Alexander leaving Creighton for NBA.
Big blow.[/quote]

Huge blow to vreighton.

If Sadiiq bey does not come back and figgy does, I think St johns has as good a chance as anyone to win the big east. Seton Hall, Creighton and Nova(if sadiq leaves) will have lost major players.
 
[quote="Paultzman" post=384810]Not helpful for Creighton on heels of losing Mintz

Creighton guard Ty-Shon Alexander (16.9 ppg) expected to declare for the NBA Draft & barring a change of heart, his intention is to remain in the draft and bypass his senior season, NBA source told @Stadium.[/quote]

Hope he talks Zegarowski into joining him,;) :)
 
[quote="Duke of Earlington" post=384813][quote="Moose" post=384811]Tyshawn Alexander leaving Creighton for NBA.
Big blow.[/quote]

Huge blow to vreighton.

If Sadiiq bey does not come back and figgy does, I think St johns has as good a chance as anyone to win the big east. Seton Hall, Creighton and Nova(if sadiq leaves) will have lost major players.[/quote]

Love ya, Duke, but you always seem to take it one step beyond reality. ;)
 
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[quote="PharmDJohnnie11" post=384797][quote="redmannorth" post=384739][quote="PharmDJohnnie11" post=384725][quote="L J S A" post=384635][quote="PharmDJohnnie11" post=384632]Would be pretty cool if St. John's got involved with a top transfer or landed one 4 star recruit...[/quote]

Do you want him to be a walk on? Or do you propose that we yank a scholarship from one of our 13 currently filled slots?[/quote]

If this staff was able to land a top recruit I'm sure they'd be able to make room for them somehow. It doesn't stop top programs from recruiting over other players currently on the roster.[/quote]

There is so much wrong with your post I don’t know where to start.
First off we are not a top program and have not been one for a very long time. So how you can compare us to «  top programs «  is beyond my comprehension. We have finally had two winning seasons in a row and each one was by a small margin.
Secondly, as was pointed out by LJSA we don’t have a ship to give.
Thirdly, we have a very nice and deep team set for next season. While we may not have studs at every position we have good solid players 10 deep and possibly 11 based upon Roberts recovery. Top players want playing time, whether it be at SJU or elsewhere. Even at the center position, which I would assume is our weakest position, we still have a few solid bodies. It would be exceptionally difficult to promise someone 25 minutes a game , which is what a top recruit would want.
Fourth, and I believe as pointed out by SJUfan2 a few weeks ago, CMA is trying to build a program, Instill a culture, with a true family atmosphere, with a great value on school and hard work. In my opinion he has done a great job of that these last 11 months, in fact and amazing job , and built up a ton of good will in the local coaching fraternity. Now you want him to toss a good kid off of the team in the hope that the transfer who wants to go to SJU will perform better than one of our players at the end of the bench ? Sorry but that just doesn’t fly in my books and more importantly for CMA.
There is a lot to be said for continuity and no drama. These last few seasons players were coming and players were going. I am thrilled those days are gone and believe we can look forward to a stable roster with improvement on a yearly basis and relatively little drama.[/quote]

There's so many things wrong with your post I don't know where to start. I don't know how you did in reading comprehension, but I never said SJU was a top program. I said top programs recruit over teams on the team on a yearly basis. Never that SJU was one.

In order to win you need top talent. This first recruiting class by CMA was very nice. I'm looking forward to seeing them play this year. But if this is going to be the top level of talent he gets in his recruiting classes we aren't going anywhere, but maybe 5th-6th in the Big East on a consistent basis. Some, like you, would probably be thrilled with this as I don't think we finished that high since the new Big East debuted, but I'm not satisfied with mediocrity.

The Seton Hall forum moderator probably could have posted the same gist of a post you did just now 5 years ago, but they landed an amazing class loaded with top talent that kick started their program into becoming a consistent winner. We need a class like that. I don't care who's feelings on the current team is hurt if they get recruited over.

I think the jury is still out on CMA. He has done a nice job so far, but things have got to pick up if he wants to build a consistent high end winner, unlike what he was able to do at Arkansas, which I feel is our current trajectory. Middle of the pack in conference, sprinkle in a few NCAA appearances here and there. That's fine if you like mediocrity. It's better than SJU has been the past decade. But I don't want to settle for that. The family environment is cute and all, but I don't really care about that to be honest. I'd much rather just win.

It may not seem realistic now, but as Seton Hall has taught us that you just need that one big class, and that could build huge momentum for your program going forward. I'm currently still waiting for CMA to deliver on that, and I think he and the staff are capable of it.[/quote]
While jury is out on CMA, it is only natural; given that he is here < 1 year. As far as trajectory, it is way too early to make an assessment...further, i believe his record in SEC was in upper half during his tenure, an impressive accomplishment given the conference’s reputation for cheating
 
[quote="Section3" post=384855][quote="PharmDJohnnie11" post=384797][quote="redmannorth" post=384739][quote="PharmDJohnnie11" post=384725][quote="L J S A" post=384635][quote="PharmDJohnnie11" post=384632]Would be pretty cool if St. John's got involved with a top transfer or landed one 4 star recruit...[/quote]

Do you want him to be a walk on? Or do you propose that we yank a scholarship from one of our 13 currently filled slots?[/quote]

If this staff was able to land a top recruit I'm sure they'd be able to make room for them somehow. It doesn't stop top programs from recruiting over other players currently on the roster.[/quote]

There is so much wrong with your post I don’t know where to start.
First off we are not a top program and have not been one for a very long time. So how you can compare us to «  top programs «  is beyond my comprehension. We have finally had two winning seasons in a row and each one was by a small margin.
Secondly, as was pointed out by LJSA we don’t have a ship to give.
Thirdly, we have a very nice and deep team set for next season. While we may not have studs at every position we have good solid players 10 deep and possibly 11 based upon Roberts recovery. Top players want playing time, whether it be at SJU or elsewhere. Even at the center position, which I would assume is our weakest position, we still have a few solid bodies. It would be exceptionally difficult to promise someone 25 minutes a game , which is what a top recruit would want.
Fourth, and I believe as pointed out by SJUfan2 a few weeks ago, CMA is trying to build a program, Instill a culture, with a true family atmosphere, with a great value on school and hard work. In my opinion he has done a great job of that these last 11 months, in fact and amazing job , and built up a ton of good will in the local coaching fraternity. Now you want him to toss a good kid off of the team in the hope that the transfer who wants to go to SJU will perform better than one of our players at the end of the bench ? Sorry but that just doesn’t fly in my books and more importantly for CMA.
There is a lot to be said for continuity and no drama. These last few seasons players were coming and players were going. I am thrilled those days are gone and believe we can look forward to a stable roster with improvement on a yearly basis and relatively little drama.[/quote]

There's so many things wrong with your post I don't know where to start. I don't know how you did in reading comprehension, but I never said SJU was a top program. I said top programs recruit over teams on the team on a yearly basis. Never that SJU was one.

In order to win you need top talent. This first recruiting class by CMA was very nice. I'm looking forward to seeing them play this year. But if this is going to be the top level of talent he gets in his recruiting classes we aren't going anywhere, but maybe 5th-6th in the Big East on a consistent basis. Some, like you, would probably be thrilled with this as I don't think we finished that high since the new Big East debuted, but I'm not satisfied with mediocrity.

The Seton Hall forum moderator probably could have posted the same gist of a post you did just now 5 years ago, but they landed an amazing class loaded with top talent that kick started their program into becoming a consistent winner. We need a class like that. I don't care who's feelings on the current team is hurt if they get recruited over.

I think the jury is still out on CMA. He has done a nice job so far, but things have got to pick up if he wants to build a consistent high end winner, unlike what he was able to do at Arkansas, which I feel is our current trajectory. Middle of the pack in conference, sprinkle in a few NCAA appearances here and there. That's fine if you like mediocrity. It's better than SJU has been the past decade. But I don't want to settle for that. The family environment is cute and all, but I don't really care about that to be honest. I'd much rather just win.

It may not seem realistic now, but as Seton Hall has taught us that you just need that one big class, and that could build huge momentum for your program going forward. I'm currently still waiting for CMA to deliver on that, and I think he and the staff are capable of it.[/quote]
While jury is out on CMA, it is only natural; given that he is here < 1 year. As far as trajectory, it is way too early to make an assessment...further, i believe his record in SEC was in upper half during his tenure, an impressive accomplishment given the conference’s reputation for cheating[/quote] was number 2 in the SEC in wins in the 8 years he was there, just couldn’t put it together in the NCAA tournament, got snubbed a time or two on a bid also. Injuries and key players leaving the program early just like Ponds and Simon and others always hurt Mikes teams because he has really good development of his players and the longer they are in his system the better they get at the system, that’s why I’m so excited about next year because Dunn, Champagnie, Earlington and Williams a going to thrive by just being able to learn the system even better than they do now.
 
Rothstein

Wichita State transfer Jamarius Burton tells me he will make a final decision on Monday.

Final List:

Texas Tech
Seton Hall
Xavier
Marquette
 
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