Likely transfers out, and add back few transfers that Anderson won't figure out how to acclimate and Year 4 will end up starting off with poor interest.
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Anderson - is he really the guy ?
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Do you guys think Anderson's future is already known internally? If so, would losing to depaul in round 1 of the BET on top of this disappointing season sway them to making a change?
Duke of Earlington post=461703 said:
I can’t see them making a change after one bad season. The University also isn’t in a financial position to buy out yet another coach. Three years ago coaches weren’t banging down our door to come here. Not much has changed with that regard. Have many already forgotten that?
I obviously have no inner knowledge, but I can’t see them making a change after one “one step back” season. With guys who are as classy as CMA, they generally get one benefit of the doubt season before the firing tsunami becomes overwhelming. Personally I desperately want this particular coach to succeed because I find him inspiring on a human level, so I am in for one more go around. But that’s about it. I suspect that reflects most of this board.
Discuss CMA leaving this year all you want, but he’ll be back and better to focus on how effectively he re-recruits guys worth it and adds quality shooting and rebounding to keep the team above water next year. Transfer portal will become real active in next few weeks or so and continue for a good amount of time after.
We’ll see, but critical time for Mike and staff to accomplish this to avoid mediocrity next season is about to unfold.
We’ll see, but critical time for Mike and staff to accomplish this to avoid mediocrity next season is about to unfold.
What you see is what you get. We will never be a top level team under CMA. He is not a good coach and doesn't recruit well. Our team lacks the very basics in good basketball - boxing out, over switching on defense causing mismatches and wide open players under the basket, always leaving hot shooters open, no designed offensive plays. This is all coaching. We'll stay about the same until the current administration makes a move, which unfortunately wouldn't happen soon.
Pathetic on several levels how in current times and perhaps more so with this program 50% of a coach’s efforts are on re-recruiting. Might as well just reboot the program every season it seems. I remember chanting “one more year” at Walter berry. Now it is whole roster.
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montyaloofah
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CMA in game coaching leaves a lot to be desired. It’s embarrassing when Fox goes to the in the huddle segment. CMA never gives specific instructions. He just gives aimless general info (“we need a stop”, “play hard”, etc..) when the pan to Jay Wright, McDermott, Cooley, they are all drawing up plays, telling guys who to keep tabs up. It’s really night and day. Regardless of who comes in, the aimless coaching will be there. And we will stick with the press that really is a blah defense.
1. I want CMA back - I felt we were very close in many games this year. There just wasn't enough in the stables when certain players went down with injury or covid, or the coaches didn't identify the correct lineups (getting Wheeler more time), or reeling in certain players (Mathis just taking too many shots). Collectively, that's all on the coaches to evaluate what went wrong, and take corrective action. Any good manager in any business is constantly evaulating and making adjustments.
I know his current contract doesn't even make it an option to consider an alternative, but I am stating that let's just assume, theoretically, that if his current contract were different, and the school had options, I would still want him back. Turning over coaches every three years is a total disaster of an idea. Each an every coach needs at least five years in my opinion.
Positives:
2. I like the style of basketball - it's very exciting to watch, and I think it's an easy to sell to recruits. I disagree with other posters (one poster in particular) who say there is no structured offense. I see plentying of crisp passing, good sharing of the ball and open shots. Set plays on inbounds passes are fine too.
3. Players do improve under him. Some years ago, all over this website it was said that certain coaches didn't improve players: Lavs, then Mullin. Well, that's not the case here. Champ really improved. Wheeler really improved. Soriano looks smoother and smoother in the post. (Disappointingly, Posh can shoot at all, still - which was the major improvement I was looking for this season and we didn't get it)
Negatives:
4. They need a massive re-evaluation of the half court defense. It just leaves way too many open three's. Something has to be fixed there. The pressing is fine to create turnovers. However, once the opposing team settles in their half court offense, there is too much collapsing on an opposing player that has the ball in the post, etc, leaving wide open three's. The half-court D just gets shredded too much.
5. Offensive three point shooting - just not good enough. We need starters that can shoot the three. I can already see us having a tough time next season without the requisite starters that can shoot. This is my biggest worry.
7. Identifying the correct players and getting the lineups set up much earlier in the season. These disappointing starts to the season are just not good enough. Not identifying Wheeler as a key player was an utter disaster this season. Letting Mathis keep on shooting our way OUT of games was a disaster also. Coaching has to get better in figuring stuff out earlier.
8. Out of conference schedule. Scheduling Kansas was a mistake (not sure if it was our choice, or if was part of a Big XII - Big East challenge). They need more games against the opponents that are in the #20 to #70 range. I'm not sure if those types of teams don't want to schedule us - but the cupcake schedule isn't good enough. But playing a #1 Duke or a Kansas or similar isn't smart either. We're just not there yet take take on those types of opponents.
I know his current contract doesn't even make it an option to consider an alternative, but I am stating that let's just assume, theoretically, that if his current contract were different, and the school had options, I would still want him back. Turning over coaches every three years is a total disaster of an idea. Each an every coach needs at least five years in my opinion.
Positives:
2. I like the style of basketball - it's very exciting to watch, and I think it's an easy to sell to recruits. I disagree with other posters (one poster in particular) who say there is no structured offense. I see plentying of crisp passing, good sharing of the ball and open shots. Set plays on inbounds passes are fine too.
3. Players do improve under him. Some years ago, all over this website it was said that certain coaches didn't improve players: Lavs, then Mullin. Well, that's not the case here. Champ really improved. Wheeler really improved. Soriano looks smoother and smoother in the post. (Disappointingly, Posh can shoot at all, still - which was the major improvement I was looking for this season and we didn't get it)
Negatives:
4. They need a massive re-evaluation of the half court defense. It just leaves way too many open three's. Something has to be fixed there. The pressing is fine to create turnovers. However, once the opposing team settles in their half court offense, there is too much collapsing on an opposing player that has the ball in the post, etc, leaving wide open three's. The half-court D just gets shredded too much.
5. Offensive three point shooting - just not good enough. We need starters that can shoot the three. I can already see us having a tough time next season without the requisite starters that can shoot. This is my biggest worry.
- I think only Wheeler fits in as a starter that can shoot it for next season.
- Posh, I really hopes he comes back. He really has to improve his three-point shot if he wants to play pro ball. Right now, he can't shoot at all.
- AJ Storr - a key recuit. The kid's videos show him making threes. But I when I look at the video, the ball doesn't rotate back perfectly. It slightly screw-balls in the air. It's not as bad as when Jakarr Sampson shot it, but it's not good overall. So, I suspect he won't be a good three point shooter at the college level, at least in his first year. I believe even the coaches said his three-ball needs some work.
- Unless they land some great transfer starter than can shoot, we're going to have a really touch time nailing three's next season. That does not bode well.
7. Identifying the correct players and getting the lineups set up much earlier in the season. These disappointing starts to the season are just not good enough. Not identifying Wheeler as a key player was an utter disaster this season. Letting Mathis keep on shooting our way OUT of games was a disaster also. Coaching has to get better in figuring stuff out earlier.
8. Out of conference schedule. Scheduling Kansas was a mistake (not sure if it was our choice, or if was part of a Big XII - Big East challenge). They need more games against the opponents that are in the #20 to #70 range. I'm not sure if those types of teams don't want to schedule us - but the cupcake schedule isn't good enough. But playing a #1 Duke or a Kansas or similar isn't smart either. We're just not there yet take take on those types of opponents.
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From watching the games, when STJ has the ball near the opponents basket, I recall plenty of "curl" plays run for Champ to get him a shot off an inbound pass, or a pass to a cutter running to the basket.section10 post=461768 said:
I'm just saying they don't aimlessly throw the ball to a player on the court. Do you disasgree? Maybe I'm mis-remembering. The problem with evaluating the season as a every-day-person, is that we have all selective memory. So maybe the in-bounds plays are a total disaster overall, and I only selectively remember the good one or two inbounds plays.
We all have selective memory. So, I generally see decent passing, and decent shot selection (except for Mathis) from most players during the season (they are college players, so there are going to be bad shots). While a different poster on this site states we have absolutely no offense at all.
The truth is, is that the correct evaluation of our offense structure is probably somewhere inbetween two different posters opinions: I am generally satifisied with offensive structure vs. how others view it as atrocious (the other poster).
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perhaps i am at a disadvantage as i watch the games via a 13 inch black and white philco.
instead of just watching saturdays game for enjoyment, i said that i will try to count the number of structured sju offensive sets.
i was trying to quantify the debate of - does anderson run offensive structured sets.
i did not see one structured offensive set in the first 13 minutes of the game and merely a handful in the rest of the half.
for the second half, i just watched the game with no clicker.
then another poster said that i missed numerous double screens for champ/coburn.
would a bored poster count for me/us the number of sju structured offensive sets on wednesday?
instead of just watching saturdays game for enjoyment, i said that i will try to count the number of structured sju offensive sets.
i was trying to quantify the debate of - does anderson run offensive structured sets.
i did not see one structured offensive set in the first 13 minutes of the game and merely a handful in the rest of the half.
for the second half, i just watched the game with no clicker.
then another poster said that i missed numerous double screens for champ/coburn.
would a bored poster count for me/us the number of sju structured offensive sets on wednesday?
I wouldn't call our offensive structure "atrocious", it's more like "non-existent". But then again, maybe I've watched a little too much Wright, Cooley, McDermott, Hurley, etc, so it's really not fair to compare our offensive structure to the ones run by some of the best coaches in the league.
Yeah; but the way I see it, is that there are definitely 'themes' or featured looks that are instilled - you see plenty curls / picks / back-door passes resulting in open shots from our team. Heck, Nyiwe had an awesome backdoor pass yesterday.Monte post=461780 said:
You clearly don't see a methodical, plodding offensive structure - that's for sure - which is easy to identify as a casual observer. Perhaps that is why we sucked at the end of games this year, when seemingly all plays slow down / tightens-up for some reason. Some more set, plodding plays are definitely needed for late in games. I acknoweldge that.
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We have a run-and-gun style of offense, but that's tough to do when you're not making defensive stops. We run some good sets on offense, but not nearly enough of them. I don't think this team had an identity. We had no steady rotation. Many players did not have defined roles. It was a semi-talented but very disjointed team. We saw some improvement in certain players, but no improvement in the team. That falls squarely on the coaching staff.SJ_NYC post=461784 said: