Anderson - is he really the guy ?

[Section3]

I do think it's worth mentioning that although Posh's injury has hurt this team, and although I do think he was a great addition to our team, his injury may need to be factored into CMA's recruiting. He was injured at the time of his recruitment and concerns over that caused his ranking to tumble. I'm unsure if this current injury is related to his high school injury(ies), so maybe I'm wrong about that, but seemed to be a genuine concern back then and maybe it will end up being one throughout his St. John's career.

Again, not saying he wasn't a great pickup. He was. I'm just saying that this may have been somewhat predictable and we should have a solid backup in place.

Believe he broke his wrist in HS. This is an ankle injury.

Posh throws his body all over the court. Ya tink is easy for a little guy grabbing O boards and putting it back in against giants? Ya like when he gets a mid court steal and makes and gets the two or leaves it for a mate. Its. not his fault we were left without a backup. With injurys he's a great player  with the numbers to show it. We lose 2 at home without him, win at x-men on road with him. Posh is the guy on this team, and will be as long as he's here. You said he was a great plck-up so you knew all that. sorry, did not seem to be brash but I love the kid.

 

Posh drives my confidence up whenever he is in game. Strong willed winner

 

[SJU Double Alumn]

So after 138 pages, I think I have a handle on this thread:

Jermane Attoil, who is a "real fan": Anderson sucks, get him out!!!!!!

49% of posters: did we win last night? A Anderson is good, let's keep him. We lost last night? He sucks, get him out!

49% of posters: Anderson has his pluses and his minuses, he has a chance to break the long pattern of SJU failure, not entirely sure he's going to do it but it needs some more time before we can draw a definitive conclusion. 

Making Plans: I loved Anderson at Arkansas and I still do. 

Proud Alum: ANDERSON IS GOD.

Bonus poster: MainMan with snarky comments about all of the above. 

Any bets on whether the NEXT 138 pages deviate from that?

Nope.  Until the results are either 100% clearly positive, or 100% negative, you'll keep on having same discussions. And that's ok. It comes with the territory. 

I can’t respond. Ohio Fan has warned he will ban me for reasons I have no idea. 

 

[L J S A]

Furthermore gelling in Feb is not good enough , the NCAA looks at the whole body of work. Don’t want your back against the wall in Feb, like we presently are. We may be able to dig ourselves out of the hole , but  it’s  going to be very hard.

He has his share of coaches annoyances that are minor-ish in a win but get magnified 1,000x in a loss.

But I think I decided last night that what Richard said is the biggest issue. I'm thinking we solve that by recruiting more talented kids who can dig us out of holes more easily. Or lure kids from programs that play a similar style. Easier said than done, of course.

 

 

[SLYFOXX1968]

The idea that it’s ok to gel by February seems to be a lame excuse .  A Team should be ready to play in November when the Season starts .  Kansas and Indiana were 2 Big Games for us in the OOC schedule . 2 huge opportunities to Win and improve the Ratings .  Several of our BE teams played tough OOC Schedule and scored big Wins .  We were playing St Peters , Monmouth , Colgate , NJIT, Fordham , etc      

 

[monte]

The idea that it’s ok to gel by February seems to be a lame excuse .  A Team should be ready to play in November when the Season starts .  Kansas and Indiana were 2 Big Games for us in the OOC schedule . 2 huge opportunities to Win and improve the Ratings .  Several of our BE teams played tough OOC Schedule and scored big Wins .  We were playing St Peters , Monmouth , Colgate , NJIT, Fordham , etc      

There is actually not one shred of evidence record wise, in CMA's time here or at Arkansas,  to suggest that his teams improve as the year goes on. Some years at Ark his teams had a winning record in Feb, and others they had a losing record. Not that it matters because, as you say, the selection committee looks at a team's entire season. Maybe they put a little bit of weight on a team that finishes really strong. So basically, the notion that CMA's teams show substantial improvement in Feb, when the track record doesn't support that,  is pure "hog"wash. 

 

[beast of the east]

When DJ Kennedy was injured in the BET in his senior year, the NCAA selection committee said that his injury was factored into giving us a higher number seed.   Additionally in some years, a team with a start player out for a good portion of the season who returned late and his team played much better upon his return factored into his team given a lower seed.    While the ratings matter a lot, there is some subjectivity in the selection, especially when it comes to teams on the bubble.   Syracuse often ends up included when in some seasons they appeared not to deserve it.  It seems that when that happens, they'd go deeper than expected in the tourney.  

 

[Eric]

The idea that it’s ok to gel by February seems to be a lame excuse .  A Team should be ready to play in November when the Season starts .  Kansas and Indiana were 2 Big Games for us in the OOC schedule . 2 huge opportunities to Win and improve the Ratings .  Several of our BE teams played tough OOC Schedule and scored big Wins .  We were playing St Peters , Monmouth , Colgate , NJIT, Fordham , etc      

There is actually not one shred of evidence record wise, in CMA's time here or at Arkansas,  to suggest that his teams improve as the year goes on. Some years at Ark his teams had a winning record in Feb, and others they had a losing record. Not that it matters because, as you say, the selection committee looks at a team's entire season. Maybe they put a little bit of weight on a team that finishes really strong. So basically, the notion that CMA's teams show substantial improvement in Feb, when the track record doesn't support that,  is pure "hog"wash. 

My take on his "teams gelling" come jan,feb is because of all the turnover we have seen in his tenure here. First year new system for the guys here and who came in. Then the transfer game since.  I would assume he did not deal with that previously year in year out with the transfer rules nowadays. 
That seems to be the case with his time here so far. Would love to keep most of the team and see how we do early on and throughout against better competition.  

That said. We really had that indiana game to win. So much for that "gelling" late idea lol. 

 

[ras]

Furthermore gelling in Feb is not good enough , the NCAA looks at the whole body of work. Don’t want your back against the wall in Feb, like we presently are. We may be able to dig ourselves out of the hole , but  it’s  going to be very hard.

He has his share of coaches annoyances that are minor-ish in a win but get magnified 1,000x in a loss.

But I think I decided last night that what Richard said is the biggest issue. I'm thinking we solve that by recruiting more talented kids who can dig us out of holes more easily. Or lure kids from programs that play a similar style. Easier said than done, of course.
—- 
I think the point Austeer made is also important. w CMA s system can’t have loss of continuity and have to replace half the team. Really hoping we can retain Posh,Wheeler and Soriano.
That said, can’t underestimate the importance of talent.


 

 

[monte]

The idea that it’s ok to gel by February seems to be a lame excuse .  A Team should be ready to play in November when the Season starts .  Kansas and Indiana were 2 Big Games for us in the OOC schedule . 2 huge opportunities to Win and improve the Ratings .  Several of our BE teams played tough OOC Schedule and scored big Wins .  We were playing St Peters , Monmouth , Colgate , NJIT, Fordham , etc      

There is actually not one shred of evidence record wise, in CMA's time here or at Arkansas,  to suggest that his teams improve as the year goes on. Some years at Ark his teams had a winning record in Feb, and others they had a losing record. Not that it matters because, as you say, the selection committee looks at a team's entire season. Maybe they put a little bit of weight on a team that finishes really strong. So basically, the notion that CMA's teams show substantial improvement in Feb, when the track record doesn't support that,  is pure "hog"wash. 

My take on his "teams gelling" come jan,feb is because of all the turnover we have seen in his tenure here. First year new system for the guys here and who came in. Then the transfer game since.  I would assume he did not deal with that previously year in year out with the transfer rules nowadays. 
That seems to be the case with his time here so far. Would love to keep most of the team and see how we do early on and throughout against better competition.  

That said. We really had that indiana game to win. So much for that "gelling" late idea lol. 

We've definitely seen better performances the last couple of games. Is that a trend? Who knows. As for "gelling", in this current environment, lots of teams(Marquette, Creighton, etc) have many new parts. Now more then ever, teams have got to come out of the gate strong. All teams should show some improvement over the course of the season, so it's not like we're going to be showing improvement  while other teams regress. Anyhow, let's see if the last 2 games are the beginning of a nice run, or if they were just a couple of games where we played well. 

 

[beast of the east]

Correct phrase is jelling, not gelling.   minor correction, not being a spelling monitor. 

 

[Eric]

Correct phrase is jelling, not gelling.   minor correction, not being a spelling monitor. 


I've seen it in both forms. Does look weirder gelling over jelling. 

 

[monte]

Correct phrase is jelling, not gelling.   minor correction, not being a spelling monitor. 


I've seen it in both forms. Does look weirder gelling over jelling. 

Seems like it's a bit of a gray area. Or is it a grey area? 

 

[paultzman]

The idea that it’s ok to gel by February seems to be a lame excuse .  A Team should be ready to play in November when the Season starts .  Kansas and Indiana were 2 Big Games for us in the OOC schedule . 2 huge opportunities to Win and improve the Ratings .  Several of our BE teams played tough OOC Schedule and scored big Wins .  We were playing St Peters , Monmouth , Colgate , NJIT, Fordham , etc      

There is actually not one shred of evidence record wise, in CMA's time here or at Arkansas,  to suggest that his teams improve as the year goes on. Some years at Ark his teams had a winning record in Feb, and others they had a losing record. Not that it matters because, as you say, the selection committee looks at a team's entire season. Maybe they put a little bit of weight on a team that finishes really strong. So basically, the notion that CMA's teams show substantial improvement in Feb, when the track record doesn't support that,  is pure "hog"wash. 

My take on his "teams gelling" come jan,feb is because of all the turnover we have seen in his tenure here. First year new system for the guys here and who came in. Then the transfer game since.  I would assume he did not deal with that previously year in year out with the transfer rules nowadays. 
That seems to be the case with his time here so far. Would love to keep most of the team and see how we do early on and throughout against better competition.  

That said. We really had that indiana game to win. So much for that "gelling" late idea lol. 

We've definitely seen better performances the last couple of games. Is that a trend? Who knows. As for "gelling", in this current environment, lots of teams(Marquette, Creighton, etc) have many new parts. Now more then ever, teams have got to come out of the gate strong. All teams should show some improvement over the course of the season, so it's not like we're going to be showing improvement  while other teams regress. Anyhow, let's see if the last 2 games are the beginning of a nice run, or if they were just a couple of games where we played well. 

Hopefully not the “gelling” too late theory

 

[kranmars]

Correct phrase is jelling, not gelling.   minor correction, not being a spelling monitor. 

Let me see if I have this straight.

During the 1980’s I was “gelling” my hair, but I remained dateless because I was not “jelling” with any girl.

Maybe it wasn’t about my looks and approach, but rather my misuse of trying to jell my hair and gel with girls.

 

[ohiofan]

It may have been that roll of quarters you kept in your pocket.

 

[Johnny Rapper]

It may have been that roll of quarters you kept in your pocket.

Was it a roll of quarters, or was he "just glad to see somebody?" 

Sorry, couldn't resist...... guess you have to be a bit older to get that one.

 

[ohiofan]

i think he was always happy to see someone.

 

[mm52]

All I know is that it is highly doubtful that CMA would put the program into a situation that Michigan is in with Juwan Howard--regardless of whether and how Howard is disciplined.  That is a good thing for a school that holds on to ideals as a university, and not just as a basketball program.

 

[sirvoo]

Here for the comments…

 

[usguard]

I hope coach puts on his glasses  we we get a few really good shooters