Amir Garrett Leaving St. John's
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hmy: Amir was the last guy I expected to leave. Would not be surprised if Marco or Jones left first. Thanks for choosing the Johnnies, Amir.Class of 72
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Amir will always be a baseball player first and was never going to be involved in the important summer and pre-season activities with the team. His minutes were going to disappear next season. There are plenty of non-D1 schools where he can make an immediate impact.
As for other players leaving, I think you are on to something! LOL!
Says a lot about the kid's effort and attitude that he can bolt the program and still get a ton of love here and on Twitter. It was a certainly different when Polee and Lindsay left.
There's a lesson in that about the benefit of conducting yourself the proper way.
There's a lesson in that about the benefit of conducting yourself the proper way.
Amir, you are a class act. I personally will miss your fire and the intensity you brought to the court. I hope you have good luck at the school you select. Thanks for picking us first. Good luck in baseball career. I would love to see you on the mound in the majors.You will be missed.........
Amir is a real person of character. Appreciated the fact that he busted his hump to get eligible last year. He always played hard and had a great attitute. He ,however, is at a position that we are the deepest at SF. I wish him well. Hopefully we will use his scholi wisely. I could see Marco transfer, w Hooper coming aboard he wont get much burn. Jones is another story, he is only a FR. He wasnt that highly recruited ,so he shouldnt have expected that much playing time this year. I also dont think he will get much next year. But his JR year, Sampson.Sanchez, and Gift will be gone. If he works hard, he could be a productive player as an upperclassman. He also had personal problems this year, I think his close friend got killed.
Amir will always be a baseball player first and was never going to be involved in the important summer and pre-season activities with the team. His minutes were going to disappear next season. There are plenty of non-D1 schools where he can make an immediate impact.
As for other players leaving, I think you are on to something! LOL!
Non-D1 schools? Give me a break...this kid has plenty of upside, but he wasn't being utilized properly here. I'd love to see him go to a structured system where he can expand his all-around game. Sampson is a future first rounder and Dom was a top 25 recruit that fit better in what Lavin was trying to do. He has a nice outside shot, he's a beast on the boards, and he can get to the tin. The poor kid looked like his confidence was shaken by December and he is a kid that needs to feed off of his confidence.
I think his ceilng is the 2nd round of the NBA draft. I'm probably the only one that thinks that, but baseball is really going to get in his way.
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Amir will always be a baseball player first and was never going to be involved in the important summer and pre-season activities with the team. His minutes were going to disappear next season. There are plenty of non-D1 schools where he can make an immediate impact.
As for other players leaving, I think you are on to something! LOL!
Non-D1 schools? Give me a break...this kid has plenty of upside, but he wasn't being utilized properly here. I'd love to see him go to a structured system where he can expand his all-around game. Sampson is a future first rounder and Dom was a top 25 recruit that fit better in what Lavin was trying to do. He has a nice outside shot, he's a beast on the boards, and he can get to the tin. The poor kid looked like his confidence was shaken by December and he is a kid that needs to feed off of his confidence.
I think his ceilng is the 2nd round of the NBA draft. I'm probably the only one that thinks that, but baseball is really going to get in his way.
Baseball is really going to get in his way? LMAO!
He will make a good living in baseball over the next 15 years.
BTW, I was not implying Amir is not a D1 player but that he would be able to play immediately at a non-D1 school out west rather than sit and play no ball in 2013-14. At 6'6 you will not make it to the NBA if cannot handle the ball and shoot from the outside.
I wish Amir well and like many others, appreciate his efforts here and his hanging in there last year during his ineligibility. I agree that playing time will be tighter next year than it was this year, so this is probably a good move for him. He's a guy I'll certainly keep tabs on going forward.
Amir will always be a baseball player first and was never going to be involved in the important summer and pre-season activities with the team. His minutes were going to disappear next season. There are plenty of non-D1 schools where he can make an immediate impact.
As for other players leaving, I think you are on to something! LOL!
Non-D1 schools? Give me a break...this kid has plenty of upside, but he wasn't being utilized properly here. I'd love to see him go to a structured system where he can expand his all-around game. Sampson is a future first rounder and Dom was a top 25 recruit that fit better in what Lavin was trying to do. He has a nice outside shot, he's a beast on the boards, and he can get to the tin. The poor kid looked like his confidence was shaken by December and he is a kid that needs to feed off of his confidence.
I think his ceilng is the 2nd round of the NBA draft. I'm probably the only one that thinks that, but baseball is really going to get in his way.
Baseball is really going to get in his way? LMAO!
He will make a good living in baseball over the next 15 years.
BTW, I was not implying Amir is not a D1 player but that he would be able to play immediately at a non-D1 school out west rather than sit and play no ball in 2013-14. At 6'6 you will not make it to the NBA if cannot handle the ball and shoot from the outside.
I am not an expert, but he seems like a longshot in baseball. Most kids don't pan out. Even with the huge headstart, I think he'll end up making much more in a professional basketball career. I realize I am probably the only one this board that feels that way. I would not be shocked to see his name called in the second round of the NBA draft in 2-3 years.
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Amir will always be a baseball player first and was never going to be involved in the important summer and pre-season activities with the team. His minutes were going to disappear next season. There are plenty of non-D1 schools where he can make an immediate impact.
As for other players leaving, I think you are on to something! LOL!
Non-D1 schools? Give me a break...this kid has plenty of upside, but he wasn't being utilized properly here. I'd love to see him go to a structured system where he can expand his all-around game. Sampson is a future first rounder and Dom was a top 25 recruit that fit better in what Lavin was trying to do. He has a nice outside shot, he's a beast on the boards, and he can get to the tin. The poor kid looked like his confidence was shaken by December and he is a kid that needs to feed off of his confidence.
I think his ceilng is the 2nd round of the NBA draft. I'm probably the only one that thinks that, but baseball is really going to get in his way.
Baseball is really going to get in his way? LMAO!
He will make a good living in baseball over the next 15 years.
BTW, I was not implying Amir is not a D1 player but that he would be able to play immediately at a non-D1 school out west rather than sit and play no ball in 2013-14. At 6'6 you will not make it to the NBA if cannot handle the ball and shoot from the outside.
I am not an expert, but he seems like a longshot in baseball. Most kids don't pan out. Even with the huge headstart, I think he'll end up making much more in a professional basketball career. I realize I am probably the only one this board that feels that way. I would not be shocked to see his name called in the second round of the NBA draft in 2-3 years.
Your not an expert?
He needs to develop an offspeed pitch or two. Otherwise eventually the fastball regardless of 95mph will be batting practice.
Amir will always be a baseball player first and was never going to be involved in the important summer and pre-season activities with the team. His minutes were going to disappear next season. There are plenty of non-D1 schools where he can make an immediate impact.
As for other players leaving, I think you are on to something! LOL!
Non-D1 schools? Give me a break...this kid has plenty of upside, but he wasn't being utilized properly here. I'd love to see him go to a structured system where he can expand his all-around game. Sampson is a future first rounder and Dom was a top 25 recruit that fit better in what Lavin was trying to do. He has a nice outside shot, he's a beast on the boards, and he can get to the tin. The poor kid looked like his confidence was shaken by December and he is a kid that needs to feed off of his confidence.
I think his ceilng is the 2nd round of the NBA draft. I'm probably the only one that thinks that, but baseball is really going to get in his way.
He has no shot at being an NBA player. He's not even anywhere close to being at DJ Kennedy's level and DJ was called up only once.
His best bet is to get his degree somewhere and devote himself to his pitching career. He'll need that degree to fall back on in case baseball doesn't pan out.
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Amir will always be a baseball player first and was never going to be involved in the important summer and pre-season activities with the team. His minutes were going to disappear next season. There are plenty of non-D1 schools where he can make an immediate impact.
As for other players leaving, I think you are on to something! LOL!
Non-D1 schools? Give me a break...this kid has plenty of upside, but he wasn't being utilized properly here. I'd love to see him go to a structured system where he can expand his all-around game. Sampson is a future first rounder and Dom was a top 25 recruit that fit better in what Lavin was trying to do. He has a nice outside shot, he's a beast on the boards, and he can get to the tin. The poor kid looked like his confidence was shaken by December and he is a kid that needs to feed off of his confidence.
I think his ceilng is the 2nd round of the NBA draft. I'm probably the only one that thinks that, but baseball is really going to get in his way.
Baseball is really going to get in his way? LMAO!
He will make a good living in baseball over the next 15 years.
BTW, I was not implying Amir is not a D1 player but that he would be able to play immediately at a non-D1 school out west rather than sit and play no ball in 2013-14. At 6'6 you will not make it to the NBA if cannot handle the ball and shoot from the outside.
I am not an expert, but he seems like a longshot in baseball. Most kids don't pan out. Even with the huge headstart, I think he'll end up making much more in a professional basketball career. I realize I am probably the only one this board that feels that way. I would not be shocked to see his name called in the second round of the NBA draft in 2-3 years.
Neither am I in baseball but I have watched him play BB and I have not seen the future NBA draft pick you seem to see. Lefty pitchers take years to develop and the Reds will pay him to do just that. By the time he is 26 his basketball career may have been over while in baseball, as a pitcher, his career could just be taking off.
Time will tell!
All I know is that he signed a $1 million contract to play baseball and "most kids" do not get signed to that amount as teens.
While Amir seemed like a fine young man who gave it his all, one as to wonder what the fascination was with him to begin with. If you are building a top flight D1basketball program, would you not bring in players who are dedicated to the sport and to improvement? How can someone who plays baseball almost the entire off season( and I believe s not even allowed to pick up a basketball by the Reds organization), ever going to improve to meet the level of top flight D1 play? When you are 6'6" in high school and can physically and athletically dominate on the court that's one thing but once you get to a Big East caliber league, it's going to take more then that to be successful as all those kids are 6'6" and the athletic, it's going to take skills. Skills that are honed in off season competition.
While I am sure he was a great kid, he was either unwilling or un able to put in the work necessary to compete at this level. I wish him the best but unless he goes to a program where athletically gifted players can be dominate, I don't see the benefit.
While I am sure he was a great kid, he was either unwilling or un able to put in the work necessary to compete at this level. I wish him the best but unless he goes to a program where athletically gifted players can be dominate, I don't see the benefit.
Very sad to see Amir go.
Unfortunately I am with Marillac on this one. Kid had a few double doubles as a freshman. The talent is clearly there but for whatever reason he regressed this season. Pitt and CONNU have gone very far the last 20 years with players just like Amir, tough 6 6 forwards who crashed the boards and did dirty work. A big loss IMHO as for whatever reason the talent did not show this season. :sob:
Unfortunately I am with Marillac on this one. Kid had a few double doubles as a freshman. The talent is clearly there but for whatever reason he regressed this season. Pitt and CONNU have gone very far the last 20 years with players just like Amir, tough 6 6 forwards who crashed the boards and did dirty work. A big loss IMHO as for whatever reason the talent did not show this season. :sob:
I disagree with the majority here. There's no question that Garrett's game took a nose-dive the second half of the season this year. So did the entire team, with the possible exception of Sampson.
Prior to that, he played with more energy and hustle than anyone else on the floor. He was an excellent defender, a determined rebounder, could finish around the rim, and had a developing short-range jump shot. I doubt there was a player on the team who was more unselfish or more committed to the name on the front of the jersey as opposed to the one on the back.
IMHO he was a program-builder, a glue guy, whatever phrase you want to use. He was not a star, but the things he did on the court will be missed.
It seems clear that he intends to continue to playing basketball somewhere else. Which means that either he came to the conclusion that St. John's was not the place for him, or he was encouraged to look elsewhere. That's just unfortunate.
Prior to that, he played with more energy and hustle than anyone else on the floor. He was an excellent defender, a determined rebounder, could finish around the rim, and had a developing short-range jump shot. I doubt there was a player on the team who was more unselfish or more committed to the name on the front of the jersey as opposed to the one on the back.
IMHO he was a program-builder, a glue guy, whatever phrase you want to use. He was not a star, but the things he did on the court will be missed.
It seems clear that he intends to continue to playing basketball somewhere else. Which means that either he came to the conclusion that St. John's was not the place for him, or he was encouraged to look elsewhere. That's just unfortunate.