All Time best transfer into SJU

[quote="Ray Morgan" post=384691]There was a transfer from Connecticut I think. Small forward type. Had to be 30 years ago. I remember him getting the ball with St. John's up a bucket with 3 seconds left, and running off the court like a fullback with the ball tucked under his arm the whole time. The other team got the ball with 2 seconds left, but fortunately they missed. Can someone help out?[/quote]

I don't remember the incident...but Lamont Middleton transferred to us from Hartford about 30 years ago.
 
[quote="newsman13" post=384746][quote="Ray Morgan" post=384691]There was a transfer from Connecticut I think. Small forward type. Had to be 30 years ago. I remember him getting the ball with St. John's up a bucket with 3 seconds left, and running off the court like a fullback with the ball tucked under his arm the whole time. The other team got the ball with 2 seconds left, but fortunately they missed. Can someone help out?[/quote]

I don't remember the incident...but Lamont Middleton transferred to us from Hartford about 30 years ago.[/quote]

Was the game against Rutgers in opening round of BE tournament?
 
I was at the game. Pretty sure it was in '86. He got a rebound and underhanded the ball high into the air with a few seconds left and it fell out of bounds with 2 seconds left. He acted like nothing happened.
 
[quote="bamafan" post=384719][quote="Beast of the East" post=384701]I think we should separate transfers that are coming home to nyc area from transfers from.elsewhere.

Rencher and Carter gave us our version of the Rolls Royce backcourt.

Searcy was on the front line with Beaver Smith and cecil rellford (transfer?) That was the first sju team i fell in love with as an alternative to the Knicks[/quote]
Rellford was a transfer from Kentucky St. but played after Searcy graduated.[/quote]

What was the front line on rellford's team? George johnson and beaver?
 
[quote="BrooklynRed" post=384750]
Was the game against Rutgers in opening round of BE tournament?[/quote]

That was 2011, Justin Brownlee, another solid JUCO transfer.

 
[quote="espken" post=384763][quote="BrooklynRed" post=384750]
Was the game against Rutgers in opening round of BE tournament?[/quote]

That was 2011, Justin Brownlee, another solid JUCO transfer.

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We would have been better off losing that game for two reasons:
-Kennedy got hurt the next night vs Syracuse.
-If we lose, we would in all probability dropped from a sixth to a seventh seed or taken a lower sixth seed spot thereby avoiding the terrible match-up with Gonzaga, in Denver.
That was the best SJU team since Artest-Barkley, and they deserved better than a first round KO.
 
[quote="BrooklynRed" post=384750][quote="newsman13" post=384746][quote="Ray Morgan" post=384691]There was a transfer from Connecticut I think. Small forward type. Had to be 30 years ago. I remember him getting the ball with St. John's up a bucket with 3 seconds left, and running off the court like a fullback with the ball tucked under his arm the whole time. The other team got the ball with 2 seconds left, but fortunately they missed. Can someone help out?[/quote]

I don't remember the incident...but Lamont Middleton transferred to us from Hartford about 30 years ago.[/quote]

Was the game against Rutgers in opening round of BE tournament?[/quote]

Enright was kind enough, several pages ago, to remind me that it was John Hempel. I think there was also a similar mistake against Rutgers, but the refs felt like going home and just ignored one of our guys running out of bounds. I wish the St. John's athletic department could put a library of all the games they have tapes for online. I'm sure a funny blooper tape can be made to give everyone something to laugh about.
 
[quote="Las Vegan" post=384765]
We would have been better off losing that game for two reasons:
-Kennedy got hurt the next night vs Syracuse.
-If we lose, we would in all probability dropped from a sixth to a seventh seed or taken a lower sixth seed spot thereby avoiding the terrible match-up with Gonzaga, in Denver.
That was the best SJU team since Artest-Barkley, and they deserved better than a first round KO.[/quote]

More shockingly it was Jim Burr and Tim Higgins that turned a blind eye in the final seconds. Luckily they both had senior moments. They must have thought we were wearing Red. (Scarlet)
 
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[quote="NCJohnnie" post=384688]For non Junior College transfers hard to get beyond Reggie Carter, Ed Searcy & Kevin Loughery. I can't recall if Kenny McIntyre was a JC or other college his first year, but if not JC, I'd add him. I don't recall anyone else who put their kind of stats up at SJU as a non JC transfer since the 1960s. Matt Brust was a notch below these guys.[/quote]
That's an understatement, NCJohnnie. Brust averaged 8 ppg and despite all his Wojo-like instensity (i.e., histrionics, like slapping the floor while guarding someone), he wasn't a standout defender. Granted, he played hard, but was someone whom I always felt was very overrated. As for Kenny Mac, he was strictly a Redmen.
 
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[quote="Beast of the East" post=384754][quote="bamafan" post=384719][quote="Beast of the East" post=384701]I think we should separate transfers that are coming home to nyc area from transfers from.elsewhere.

Rencher and Carter gave us our version of the Rolls Royce backcourt.

Searcy was on the front line with Beaver Smith and cecil rellford (transfer?) That was the first sju team i fell in love with as an alternative to the Knicks[/quote]
Rellford was a transfer from Kentucky St. but played after Searcy graduated.[/quote]

What was the front line on rellford's team? George johnson and beaver?[/quote]
Yes. In a home game against Hawaii and Reggie Carter, Carter put up a shot close to the basket late that might have won the game and G Johnson went for the block and didn't get it and then Rellford went up right behind him and blocked it. G Johnson was asked after the game if it was goal tending on Rellford and he answered "Well I went up for the block and couldn't reach it and I jump higher than Cecil..." LOL
 
[quote="Ray Morgan" post=384691]There was a transfer from Connecticut I think. Small forward type. Had to be 30 years ago. I remember him getting the ball with St. John's up a bucket with 3 seconds left, and running off the court like a fullback with the ball tucked under his arm the whole time. The other team got the ball with 2 seconds left, but fortunately they missed. Can someone help out?[/quote]

As I read through this topic, it appears no one knows of an incoming transfer from UConn, but I can recall one who left SJU for the Huskies. Anyone remember this little known SJU recruit? Not Sid Wilson.
 
[quote="Las Vegan" post=384785][quote="Ray Morgan" post=384691]There was a transfer from Connecticut I think. Small forward type. Had to be 30 years ago. I remember him getting the ball with St. John's up a bucket with 3 seconds left, and running off the court like a fullback with the ball tucked under his arm the whole time. The other team got the ball with 2 seconds left, but fortunately they missed. Can someone help out?[/quote]

As I read through this topic, it appears no one knows of an incoming transfer from UConn, but I can recall one who left SJU for the Huskies. Anyone remember this little known SJU recruit? Not Sid Wilson.[/quote]
Bob Stack
 
[quote="Paultzman" post=384786][quote="Las Vegan" post=384785][quote="Ray Morgan" post=384691]There was a transfer from Connecticut I think. Small forward type. Had to be 30 years ago. I remember him getting the ball with St. John's up a bucket with 3 seconds left, and running off the court like a fullback with the ball tucked under his arm the whole time. The other team got the ball with 2 seconds left, but fortunately they missed. Can someone help out?[/quote]

As I read through this topic, it appears no one knows of an incoming transfer from UConn, but I can recall one who left SJU for the Huskies. Anyone remember this little known SJU recruit? Not Sid Wilson.[/quote]
Bob Stack[/quote]

Damn, I doubted anyone would get him. Only played on the frosh team, and left because Louie brought in a recruiting class with Ralph Abraham and four wing players. Stack saw the logjam and left. The next year, on the varsity, we had one healthy point guard - Calzonetti and five shooting guards - DePre, Smyth, Jackson, Bettridge and Brunner.
 
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[quote="Las Vegan" post=384787]
Damn, I doubted anyone would get him. Only played on the frosh team, and left because Louie brought in a recruiting class with Ralph Abraham and four wing players. Stack saw the logjam and left. The next year, on the varsity, we had one healthy point guard - Calzonetti and five shooting guards - DePre, Smyth, Jackson, Bettridge and Brunner.[/quote]

Not just about playing time. Staak went on to become an assistant coach in the NBA. Not to shabby

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Staak
 
[quote="bamafan" post=384782][quote="Beast of the East" post=384754][quote="bamafan" post=384719][quote="Beast of the East" post=384701]I think we should separate transfers that are coming home to nyc area from transfers from.elsewhere.

Rencher and Carter gave us our version of the Rolls Royce backcourt.

Searcy was on the front line with Beaver Smith and cecil rellford (transfer?) That was the first sju team i fell in love with as an alternative to the Knicks[/quote]
Rellford was a transfer from Kentucky St. but played after Searcy graduated.[/quote]

What was the front line on rellford's team? George johnson and beaver?[/quote]
Yes. In a home game against Hawaii and Reggie Carter, Carter put up a shot close to the basket late that might have won the game and G Johnson went for the block and didn't get it and then Rellford went up right behind him and blocked it. G Johnson was asked after the game if it was goal tending on Rellford and he answered "Well I went up for the block and couldn't reach it and I jump higher than Cecil..." LOL[/quote]

Thanks for the correction. It was the Rellford johnson smith front line that all could block shots. Of course searcy could really jump, as could Beaver. Thats a great story btw
 
[quote="Paultzman" post=384732][quote="bamafan" post=384720][quote="Ray Morgan" post=384691]There was a transfer from Connecticut I think. Small forward type. Had to be 30 years ago. I remember him getting the ball with St. John's up a bucket with 3 seconds left, and running off the court like a fullback with the ball tucked under his arm the whole time. The other team got the ball with 2 seconds left, but fortunately they missed. Can someone help out?[/quote]
Hempel transferred from UMASS and the way he played in the Dallas Comegys DePaul debacle NCAA Tourney game made me think he was sabotaging us for the lack of playing time he received that season. Took me over two weeks to come close to getting past that loss.[/quote]
“Yes, I committed a lane violation”

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I saw a highlight of this last week, still pisses me off. One of the worst non calls of a lane violation you will ever see.
 
I'll echo RM86's comments on the no call lane violation in the DePaul -SJU NCAA contest. Along wth the SYR- SJU no charge call at CA these two calls are the worst in memory involving SJU
The DePaul non call is far worse than the SYR non call because of the importance of the game and the fact it was far more blatant. I turned off the TV thinking that perhaps there had been a rule change allowing a foul shooter to cross the line before the shot reached the rim that I wasn't aware of. I felt this way because it was so obvious and the fact that Billy Packer was announcing and the violation took place right in front of him and he never commented on it. I felt he was one of the most knowledgable commentators about college bb rules.
 
[quote="Enright" post=384882]I'll echo RM86's comments on the no call lane violation in the DePaul -SJU NCAA contest. Along wth the SYR- SJU no charge call at CA these two calls are the worst in memory involving SJU
The DePaul non call is far worse than the SYR non call because of the importance of the game and the fact it was far more blatant. I turned off the TV thinking that perhaps there had been a rule change allowing a foul shooter to cross the line before the shot reached the rim that I wasn't aware of. I felt this way because it was so obvious and the fact that Billy Packer was announcing and the violation took place right in front of him and he never commented on it. I felt he was one of the most knowledgable commentators about college bb rules.[/quote]

The DePaul game definitely has more importance than the Syracuse game. I think the Syracuse game hurt because if memory serves me correctly , we played Louisville and Darrell Griffith at Alumni Hall the following weekend and we lost another close one.
 
[quote="espken" post=384789][quote="Las Vegan" post=384787]
Damn, I doubted anyone would get him. Only played on the frosh team, and left because Louie brought in a recruiting class with Ralph Abraham and four wing players. Stack saw the logjam and left. The next year, on the varsity, we had one healthy point guard - Calzonetti and five shooting guards - DePre, Smyth, Jackson, Bettridge and Brunner.[/quote]

Not just about playing time. Staak went on to become an assistant coach in the NBA. Not to shabby

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Staak[/quote]
Not be picky, but Brunner graduated after the '66-'67 season. Never played with DePre, whose first season was '67-'68.
 
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