[quote="Moose" post=360387][quote="Logen" post=360386][quote="Moose" post=360365][quote="Logen" post=360363][quote="Moose" post=360361]Yankees had higher AVG, OBP, SLG and a lower ERA and lost the series. Kind of crazy,[/quote]
That’s why old timers and old schoolers like me always preach there is only one stat that matters; the rest is just bar talk, usually for the losing team.[/quote]
I thought old timer baseball fans lived breathed and shit all stats.
The point of the stats should be to those yankee fans who screamed the sky is falling. Cashman should have got a pitcher at deadline yadda yadda. Comes down to 2 swings. Baseball is a marathon that then is decided in a short series.
I’m pissed as anyone. It’s just a horrible matchup for Yankees.[/quote]
I do eat and shit all stats, in a bar where they belong, celebrating or lamenting the one that got away. FWIW, I disagree about the bad matchup simply because it came down to a couple of swings, Yankees could have easily won the series, but they didn’t, that’s sports.
During my coaching days, we played in the finals of a Christmas tournament, huge underdogs on paper, hung in all game and led by a point with about a second to go with them taking the ball out having to go the full length of the court. Kept the ball in front of us, forced an 3/4 court baseball heave over a defender that hit nothing but net. I cried for a week to anyone who would listen how unlucky we were; we outplayed them, better shooting %, broke their press, low turnovers, even in rebounds giving up all that height, etc., etc., on and on, blah, blah, blah. Now, 20 years or so years later, I enjoy thinking back on all those “stats” with a certain pride BUT, we lost. That’s sports.
P.S. see the 1960 WS for how much stats other than W’s and L’s matter.[/quote]
By bad matchup one specific example is Yankees have RH heavy lineup. Astros with not 1 LH pitcher on roster.[/quote]
Ok, I’ll play, let’s go to the bar and discuss stats on this Yankee team. I put a table together so we can argue (the fun part, well, outside of the drinking) rather than research.
Total RHP LHP
ABs. 5,583 4,074 73% 1,509 27%
HRs. 306 220 72% 86 28%
Hits 1,493 1,081 72% 412 28%
RBIs. 904 660 73% 244 27%
TBs. 2,735 1,971 72% 764 28%
SOs. 1,437 1,053 73% 384 27%
Walks. 569 412 72% 157 28%
I rounded to the nearest % but as you see, the splits are amazingly consistent. Further, if you break it down to just right handed hitters, actually you could make a good argument that the Yankees righties hit better against RHPs than LHPs. A playoff series is a crapshoot and the Astros got a couple more big hits than the Yankees, IMO not much too choose from for one or the other.
That’s why old timers and old schoolers like me always preach there is only one stat that matters; the rest is just bar talk, usually for the losing team.[/quote]
I thought old timer baseball fans lived breathed and shit all stats.
The point of the stats should be to those yankee fans who screamed the sky is falling. Cashman should have got a pitcher at deadline yadda yadda. Comes down to 2 swings. Baseball is a marathon that then is decided in a short series.
I’m pissed as anyone. It’s just a horrible matchup for Yankees.[/quote]
I do eat and shit all stats, in a bar where they belong, celebrating or lamenting the one that got away. FWIW, I disagree about the bad matchup simply because it came down to a couple of swings, Yankees could have easily won the series, but they didn’t, that’s sports.
During my coaching days, we played in the finals of a Christmas tournament, huge underdogs on paper, hung in all game and led by a point with about a second to go with them taking the ball out having to go the full length of the court. Kept the ball in front of us, forced an 3/4 court baseball heave over a defender that hit nothing but net. I cried for a week to anyone who would listen how unlucky we were; we outplayed them, better shooting %, broke their press, low turnovers, even in rebounds giving up all that height, etc., etc., on and on, blah, blah, blah. Now, 20 years or so years later, I enjoy thinking back on all those “stats” with a certain pride BUT, we lost. That’s sports.
P.S. see the 1960 WS for how much stats other than W’s and L’s matter.[/quote]
By bad matchup one specific example is Yankees have RH heavy lineup. Astros with not 1 LH pitcher on roster.[/quote]
Ok, I’ll play, let’s go to the bar and discuss stats on this Yankee team. I put a table together so we can argue (the fun part, well, outside of the drinking) rather than research.
Total RHP LHP
ABs. 5,583 4,074 73% 1,509 27%
HRs. 306 220 72% 86 28%
Hits 1,493 1,081 72% 412 28%
RBIs. 904 660 73% 244 27%
TBs. 2,735 1,971 72% 764 28%
SOs. 1,437 1,053 73% 384 27%
Walks. 569 412 72% 157 28%
I rounded to the nearest % but as you see, the splits are amazingly consistent. Further, if you break it down to just right handed hitters, actually you could make a good argument that the Yankees righties hit better against RHPs than LHPs. A playoff series is a crapshoot and the Astros got a couple more big hits than the Yankees, IMO not much too choose from for one or the other.
