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[quote="johnny redman" post=297113]We win the ncaa like villanova and our apps for undergrad with explode and so will culture etc etc etc....[/quote]

You got it,johnny redman. (Which reminds me, I am still miffed at Louie for leading the name change. Still dunno what a 'Red Storm' is!)
It's all about winning. Just about 'everything' flows from that elusive variable.
 
[quote="Chicago Days" post=297244]
.....I am still miffed at Louie for leading the name change. Still dunno what a 'Red Storm' .......[/quote]
At the time the name “Redmen” was abandoned by St. John’s, its women’s teams were called the “Express” with a subway car as it’s logo. If the unfortunate decision to abandon the name “Remsen” was to be made, the St. John’s braintrust should have adopted the name “Express” for all of its athletic teams.

The St. John’s Express with a subway car as it’s logo is not great but IMO it is a heck of a lot better than Red Storm with a horse as it’s mascot.
 
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[quote="otis" post=297247][quote="Chicago Days" post=297244]
.....I am still miffed at Louie for leading the name change. Still dunno what a 'Red Storm' .......[/quote]
At the time the name “Redmen” was abandoned by St. John’s, its women’s teams were called the “Express” with a subway car as it’s logo. If the unfortunate decision to abandon the name “Remsen” was to be made, the St. John’s braintrust should have adopted the name “Express” for all of its athletic teams.

The St. John’s Express with a subway car as it’s logo is not great but IMO it is a heck of a lot better than Red Storm with a horse as it’s mascot.[/quote]

The horse is gone. They sent old Thunder to the glue factory a few years ago. Now, we have a chicken on steroids as our mascot. Brilliant !
 
[quote="Las Vegan" post=297252][quote="otis" post=297247][quote="Chicago Days" post=297244]
.....I am still miffed at Louie for leading the name change. Still dunno what a 'Red Storm' .......[/quote]
At the time the name “Redmen” was abandoned by St. John’s, its women’s teams were called the “Express” with a subway car as it’s logo. If the unfortunate decision to abandon the name “Remsen” was to be made, the St. John’s braintrust should have adopted the name “Express” for all of its athletic teams.

The St. John’s Express with a subway car as it’s logo is not great but IMO it is a heck of a lot better than Red Storm with a horse as it’s mascot.[/quote]

The horse is gone. They sent old Thunder to the glue factory a few years ago. Now, we have a chicken on steroids as our mascot. Brilliant ![/quote]

Lol.
 
[quote="otis" post=297247][quote="Chicago Days" post=297244]
.....I am still miffed at Louie for leading the name change. Still dunno what a 'Red Storm' .......[/quote]
At the time the name “Redmen” was abandoned by St. John’s, its women’s teams were called the “Express” with a subway car as it’s logo. If the unfortunate decision to abandon the name “Remsen” was to be made, the St. John’s braintrust should have adopted the name “Express” for all of its athletic teams.

The St. John’s Express with a subway car as it’s logo is not great but IMO it is a heck of a lot better than Red Storm with a horse as it’s mascot.[/quote]
Should have left the name Redmen and simply changed the mascot from a Native American to a Red man.
 
[quote="austour" post=297257]In a sequined tux?[/quote]

Lol.
No disrespect to ‘American Indians’ but I luvved the old nickname.
And, it’s more than this and ‘complicated’,but seems we’ve been jinxed since we changed names!
 
[quote="Chicago Days" post=297244][quote="johnny redman" post=297113]We win the ncaa like villanova and our apps for undergrad with explode and so will culture etc etc etc....[/quote]

You got it,johnny redman. (Which reminds me, I am still miffed at Louie for leading the name change. Still dunno what a 'Red Storm' is!)
It's all about winning. Just about 'everything' flows from that elusive variable.[/quote]

Louie did NOT lead the charge for the name change. It was driven by the Exec VP at the time, Barbara Morris with support from Pres. Harrington! Louie was TOLD no more Redman logo and changes were made.
 
And it was Barbara Morris’ idea for Tuxedo Man and when he was boo’d off the courts, she led the initial change for new alternate logo and mascot.
 
[quote="Erinman" post=297259][quote="Chicago Days" post=297244][quote="johnny redman" post=297113]We win the ncaa like villanova and our apps for undergrad with explode and so will culture etc etc etc....[/quote]

You got it,johnny redman. (Which reminds me, I am still miffed at Louie for leading the name change. Still dunno what a 'Red Storm' is!)
It's all about winning. Just about 'everything' flows from that elusive variable.[/quote]

Louie did NOT lead the charge for the name change. It was driven by the Exec VP at the time, Barbara Morris with support from Pres. Harrington! Louie was TOLD no more Redman logo and changes were made.[/quote]

[URL][URL]https://www.nytimes.com/1...etball-st-john-s-to-drop-redmen-nickname.html[/URL][/URL]

What came first, the chicken or the egg?
IMO, whomever 'led the charge' or supported it, it was a bad idea all around. Period.
Ironically, that a recent NY Post piece comments that most fans and alum support the Red Storm nickname and do not want it changed.
Man, I do.
 
[quote="Erinman" post=297260]And it was Barbara Morris’ idea for Tuxedo Man and when he was boo’d off the courts, she led the initial change for new alternate logo and mascot.[/quote]
In her defense, which St. John's student -- especially given the diversity of the student body population -- or alum -- including thousands of women -- doesn't identify with a goofy-looking white guy in a sequined red suit? I know I do.:unsure:
 
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Back in 1993 in marillac cafeteria,
Red dragon, Red riders, all buch of Reds on the new nickname survey.
 
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Always felt the name should have some connection to NYC. along with the color red. Does Red Torch pass the test?
 
[quote="otis" post=297247]
The St. John’s Express with a subway car as it’s logo is not great but IMO it is a heck of a lot better than Red Storm with a horse as it’s mascot.[/quote]

That sounds like an indoor soccer team from the '70s/'80s.

I honestly think we should have just gone with the St. John's Red. Then fans could have shirts and hats that said Red Men. Announcers would still call us the Johnnies after an initial "And here come the Red of St. John's!" I think I remember Raf calling us the Cherry Men a few times. Glad that didn't stick.
 
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[quote="L J S A" post=297273][quote="otis" post=297247]
The St. John’s Express with a subway car as it’s logo is not great but IMO it is a heck of a lot better than Red Storm with a horse as it’s mascot.[/quote]

That sounds like an indoor soccer team from the '70s/'80s.

I honestly think we should have just gone with the St. John's Red. Then fans could have shirts and hats that said Red Men. Announcers would still call us the Johnnies after an initial "And here come the Red of St. John's!" I think I remember Raf calling us the Cherry Men a few times. Glad that didn't stick.[/quote]
That natural inclination to go from "the Red" to "the Red men (or women)" by TV commentators, writers or fans is probably why -- if it was ever suggested -- that choice wasn't made.
 
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Most of my. Redmen. Clothes worn out (graduated 30 yrs ago) but my red Redmen jacket still looks decent

Last season wore it to a game at Carnesecca. A security guard d says to me as I enter. Not very politically correct
 
After careful thought, here are some names I would nominate for a vote:

1. Red Sea -- This is a name of biblical proprtions. Imagine a Moses mascot leading us through this exodus of bad basketball. Maybe parting the red sea allows the staff to close on recruits.

2. Red Lantern -- in the DC universe, these villains get there power through emotions. How many other programs have treated their alums and fans so badly and put them through the emotional abyss?

3. Red Rum -- This program has been a horror show. The team can come out of the lockers to "Here's Johnny." We all feel a bit like Wendy Torrance being a fan of SO I.

4. Big Red -- Just expanding on the Red or Reds name. "We Are Big Red!" Say it a few times. It has a nice ring to it. Go big or go home.

5. Red E -- "We Are Red-E!" Say it proudly. After watching this program flounder, we are Red-E for anything.

Some names that did not make the cut include: Red Skull, Red Pandas, Red Hens, Dead Red, Red Meat, and Infrared.
 
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