A fan rant

[Blitz]

Assuming Lavin is behind these rumors (and assuming these rumors are false), what exactly does Lavin gain by doing this?

Lavin has an ax to grind because he thinks Chris went after the job while he was still "coaching". That sums it up.

If anything you said was the case Lavin would be/should be upset at the university not Mullin.

 

[usguard]

Anyone that has to "rant" about coach before he coaches his first game is not a reasonable fan and most likely not a reasonable person.

Going on that logic, what about all the posters on here who rant about how amazing we are and how saved this program is and how much of a powerhouse we will be.... yet Coach has not sat on that bench, ever, as a coach in the college game and has no in game assistant. However, when someone raises doubts and in my opinion legitimate concerns, although the format and way it was expressed is questionable, he all of a sudden is unreasonable because he's on a contrary belief than you?

I for one am happy and pleased what the coach and staff has accomplished in the time parameters they were faced with coming in late .I think they would be the first to admit that they have not sign a real top to prospect( like a 5 *) but they will .It is a process that takes time developing relationships while moving the program in a direction that recruits want to get on board and be part of what is going to happen with ST JOHNS AND NYC BASKETBALL

I'm a huge St. John's fan. There are some, not all, accurate harsh realities of what Google posted.

 

[salty dog]

Assuming Lavin is behind these rumors (and assuming these rumors are false), what exactly does Lavin gain by doing this?

Lavin has an ax to grind because he thinks Chris went after the job while he was still "coaching". That sums it up.

I don't see that at all except perceived by people like yourself who didn''t like him.

 

[bamafan]

Assuming Lavin is behind these rumors (and assuming these rumors are false), what exactly does Lavin gain by doing this?

Lavin has an ax to grind because he thinks Chris went after the job while he was still "coaching". That sums it up.

If anything you said was the case Lavin would be/should be upset at the university not Mullin.

The late Gary Carter (God rest his soul) was excoriated by the press and those in baseball just for saying he would be interested in the Mets managerial position should the job become available.

 

[19854ever]

Mr google can you provide the real reason Frank Darby was fired?

 

[1and1sju]

Assuming Lavin is behind these rumors (and assuming these rumors are false), what exactly does Lavin gain by doing this?

Lavin has an ax to grind because he thinks Chris went after the job while he was still "coaching". That sums it up.

If anything you said was the case Lavin would be/should be upset at the university not Mullin.

Lavin should be upset at himself. Do a good job and he wouldn't have been fired.

It's the University's fault that they were looking for a new head coach and made sure they had a good one lined up before they fired Lavin?

 

[Blitz]

Mr google can you provide the real reason Frank Darby was fired?

I am a big supporter of Mr. Darby. With limited resources he was able to teach/mentor and advise kids that turned out to be as we all know very successful.
I will not discuss the issue since there is a legal case pending (very easy case in Darby's favor)

 

[beast of the east]

Mr google can you provide the real reason Frank Darby was fired?

I am a big supporter of Mr. Darby. With limited resources he was able to teach/mentor and advise kids that turned out to be as we all know very successful.
I will not discuss the issue since there is a legal case pending (very easy case in Darby's favor)

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[beast of the east]

Assuming Lavin is behind these rumors (and assuming these rumors are false), what exactly does Lavin gain by doing this?

Lavin has an ax to grind because he thinks Chris went after the job while he was still "coaching". That sums it up.

I think Lavin knows the game that coaches are hired to be fired. The more than likely reality is that SJU entered into extension negotiations with him at a lower salary, and he balked. I seriously doubt that Lavin is going around bad mouthing Mullin. He may not have been a great coach, but he isn't a low life going around bad mouthing Mullin, at least not like some on here bad mouthed everything about Lavin.

 

[1and1sju]

Assuming Lavin is behind these rumors (and assuming these rumors are false), what exactly does Lavin gain by doing this?

Lavin has an ax to grind because he thinks Chris went after the job while he was still "coaching". That sums it up.

I think Lavin knows the game that coaches are hired to be fired. The more than likely reality is that SJU entered into extension negotiations with him at a lower salary, and he balked. I seriously doubt that Lavin is going around bad mouthing Mullin. He may not have been a great coach, but he isn't a low life going around bad mouthing Mullin, at least not like some on here bad mouthed everything about Lavin.

There were no extension negotiations Beast.

 

[monte]

Assuming Lavin is behind these rumors (and assuming these rumors are false), what exactly does Lavin gain by doing this?

Lavin has an ax to grind because he thinks Chris went after the job while he was still "coaching". That sums it up.

If anything you said was the case Lavin would be/should be upset at the university not Mullin.

Lavin should be upset at himself. Do a good job and he wouldn't have been fired.

It's the University's fault that they were looking for a new head coach and made sure they had a good one lined up before they fired Lavin?

That's simply good business. Wonder if the school would have extended Lavin, with many conditions, had CM not been available?

 

[19854ever]

Beast thanks for the info, not sure what he said and where, but a soon to be filed Lawsuit if goes public is not good for sju. Mr google since you have the floor can explain who in the admin was Norms biggest cheerleader and why his losing was tolerated for 2 or 3 seasons more than it should have been ?

 

[Blitz]

Mr google can you provide the real reason Frank Darby was fired?

I am a big supporter of Mr. Darby. With limited resources he was able to teach/mentor and advise kids that turned out to be as we all know very successful.
I will not discuss the issue since there is a legal case pending (very easy case in Darby's favor)

From reliable sources. Darby allegedly said something in the company of others that was at best racially insensitive and at worst a slur. He said it in front of the wrong people, and the school had little choice but to fire him. While Keegan was upset at the firing he was more upset that he was not consulted on Darby's successor.


If the above is a reasonable facsimile of events, a college coach has to be smarter than that when speaking even casually. A university just can't have someone who appears to be racially insensitive, right or wrong, overreactive or not.

Your "reliable sources" is how untrue rumors start. Better yet I would say that your paragraph is more like a childrens game -"telephone" But I have to say 10% of your story fits.

 

[beast of the east]

Mr google can you provide the real reason Frank Darby was fired?

I am a big supporter of Mr. Darby. With limited resources he was able to teach/mentor and advise kids that turned out to be as we all know very successful.
I will not discuss the issue since there is a legal case pending (very easy case in Darby's favor)

Your "reliable sources" is how untrue rumors start. Better yet I would say that your paragraph is more like a childrens game -"telephone" But I have to say 10% of your story fits.

I really am amused by your psyche. When challenged, you clearly profess to be a superior intellect, which is intended to belittle. I guess that may work for you sometimes, and I'm sure those around you in real life just love that aspect of your persona. You are a defender of Darby, cast strong aspersions on AD staff, and come here to drop bombs. Interesting.

 

[beast of the east]

Assuming Lavin is behind these rumors (and assuming these rumors are false), what exactly does Lavin gain by doing this?

Lavin has an ax to grind because he thinks Chris went after the job while he was still "coaching". That sums it up.

I think Lavin knows the game that coaches are hired to be fired. The more than likely reality is that SJU entered into extension negotiations with him at a lower salary, and he balked. I seriously doubt that Lavin is going around bad mouthing Mullin. He may not have been a great coach, but he isn't a low life going around bad mouthing Mullin, at least not like some on here bad mouthed everything about Lavin.

There were no extension negotiations Beast.

I was speculating on an extension, and had no knowledge of it. I do know that there was a growing dissatisfaction with the stagnation of the program, and a committee in place very early in the season to consider Lavin's future. If as has been speculated, some discussions took place with Mullin around the time he came back for his HOF inductions, I see nothing wrong with SJU thinking of possible candidates should Lavin be terminated or if he quit.

 

[Marillac]

This is not my rant but interested how you guys feel about it. I see some valid points but also a bit of exaggeration.

I'm sorry. Chris was hired in March. We have a six-man rotation again as he drives more people away than ISIS:

Jordan
Obepka
Both Delarosas
Sampson
Doughty
Barnes-Thompkins
Henderson
Stewart

Fill out the staff already. You are waiting 3 months for Ed Pinckney let alone a director of basketball operations. Allen Iverson voice: Ed Pinckney?!

And then Pinckney says NO?!

We have NO bench coach. Chris hasn't coached. Matt was a team manager for Norm and a video coordinator for Hoiberg. Barry was 52-70 at Manhattan.

Who have we signed? LoVett? He was coming for Lavin, too. We lost Sampson. Mussini and Papagiannis were being recruited by the former staff so if they come, it is the same situation as LoVett.

Barnes-Thompkins went to BC. Doughty went to VCU. They are the equal to Ellison.

The Spanish center is 170 lbs. Williams is coming off of surgeries to both shoulders and hasn't played in a year; Mvouika is coming off back surgery; Johnson is coming back from a year suspension for drugs! Oh, and I forgot the Tennessee transfer who is sitting out this year averaging a big 1 point and 1 rebound a game in the SEC!

Chris has publicly stated he doesn't know the NCAA rules, is making bets on the radio with Craig Carton and publicly says he didn't think he would like watching HS kids play.

We have a school lead by a president who was never a president; no AD; and a head coach who has never coached.

Chris chirped about NYC kids and throwing a blanket over the metro areas. But, thankfully, he has the same national and international recruiting strategy we had already in place!

Let's call BULLSHIT. Chris knew he and D'Alesandaro were getting fired from Sacramento because Divac took over. And he knew he couldn't get an NBA job again after he bombed at Golden State and Sacramento. Even Jim Fucking Dolan wanted no part of him!!!!

So he backdoored Lav.

This is a 10-win team at best. Wtf?! There. I feel better.

If you let people speak long enough, they will reveal their character. You are no fan of the program, and certainly have an ax to grind.

I took your little inside scoops initially as someone who is close to someone in the know, and simply couldn't keep information that wasn't yet public to himself.

Then you ATTEMPT to drop a bomb on Mullin (you missed badly) by offering a scathing, negative opinion of him and his first few months on the job. You're a low-life, period.

Obviously you know you are going to get banned, so you drop a bomb so you can get in some parting words. My only hope is that Paul tracks IP addresses, and we won't hear from you again.

I think you have been watching too much of Tyrant on FX (good show by the way)
there is no bombs in my post,
there is no ax to grind,
there is nothing that can be said about Mullin since we have not played a game yet,
no one is getting banned,
If you were smarter you would know that the rant is not my style of writing. GO SJU

Did you lose a bet where you can't use the word "are" for a year or do you just honestly not understand when to use are instead of is?

 

[indyredmen97]

Here I was losing faith in the Mets season, only to see that I should also be losing faith in our basketball season, coaching staff and basketball program in general. I don't think people should be upset with Mr. Google for posting this "fan rant", not everyone shares the enthusiasm of the majority, although ranting before balls are tossed in the air and play starts seems absurd. Logically speaking its fair to assume Coach Mullin was contacted well before Coach Lavin's contract was over, perhaps even negotiating his own contract in the process, and I can understand why some may be offended by that (though I always admire the hypocrisy of coaches who do and say the most deplorable things but decry this type of behavior). As far as not having filled out the remainder of his staff yet, the roster changes, and the other question marks, they are just that - mere questions marks. Worthy of anxiety? For some. Worthy of a rant? Not for me. The Mets, however...