2025-26 Rankings

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ADORAZ

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After our best season in a quarter century, next season has the potential to be even better. Still a week until the preseason rankings start coming out, but the transfer rankings are pretty impressive to say the least.

St. John's has picked up #6 Bryce Hopkins (#1 Forward) and #12 Joson Sanon (#9 Guard). Silas Demary Jr. visited today and is #10 overall (#8 Guard).

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2025 College Basketball Transfer Portal

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St. John's also has the #1 transfer class in the nation currently.

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2025 Transfer Basketball Team Rankings

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Think worst case we'll be Top 15-25 preseason, and Top 5 wouldn't surprise me. Wish Luis returned, but between retaining Zuby and adding a couple stars this has been an incredible start to the off-season.
 
dk423 said:
I think the quality of PG we nab will be the ultimate difference maker between being ranked #15 to being ranked as high as, yeah, #1.
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I agree #1 wouldn't be out of the question if we can get someone like Silas, but that may be an uphill battle.

Also, I know a lot of people put little to no stock into preseason rankings, and there is some truth to that (for example Kansas was preseason #1 this year).

That said, as we saw this year the rankings are extremely important for attendance and overall publicity. With the way our season ended some casual fans have started questioning how good we'll be going forward. Securing a top 5-15 preseason ranking would help maintain the program's momentum over the next 7 months, which would be huge for things such as season ticket sales, OOC ticket sales, merchandise sales, NIL, etc.
 
On a related note, wondering what our end of year ranking for this season will be. Any guesses?
 
Very important for the Big East to be significantly better than last year. Still early, but here are the transfer portal and recruiting team rankings thus far:

Recruiting:
#3 UConn
#17 Marquette
#18 Butler
#37 Providence
#43 DePaul
#67 Creighton
#86 Xavier
4 teams without recruits

Transfer Portal:
#3 St. John's
#9 Creighton
#18 Butler
#21 Georgetown
#24 Providence
T#41 Xavier
T#41 Seton Hall
4 teams without transfers

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2025 Overall Basketball Team Rankings

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There's also an "Overall" filter (linked above), but it doesn't mean much until the Transfer Portal decisions are further along (too lopsided towards recruiting for now). Pretty clear that most of the Big East has shifted away from high school recruiting to transfers in recent years, which I think is the correct call.
 
One of the things in the off season is the unbridled optimism that fans bring to their respective School BB Programs .

We are losing some pretty substantial talent . RJ, KR , Scott , Smith and Brady although injured and now in portal .

Coming in , so far we have Hopkins and Sanon.
2 highly regarded Players but , highly regarded in the off season doesn’t mean much once the Season starts . Check out AJ Storr last year at Kansas . 6 points a game .

Hopkins , if healthy all season is a excellent player . But , on a player to player comparison , I think Luis is and was better . But , we will see .

We still need a high quality PG , one who isn’t Smurf sized like Smith was .
KR will be most difficult to replace as he did everything . Score , Rebound , Assists , Defense and run the Offense .


Wilcher , to me , is. SG not a PG , so where does he fit ? Back up Sanon ? Doubtful .
I think he would transfer if he thought he was going to be a non starter .
I seem to recall the possibility that Sanon could be the SF role , as KR did on occasion .

Which would leave Wilcher as the SG , a role that seems natural for him .

So , getting a true PG from the Portal will determine how well we will play next season.

Glover , Vince , Lefty , Prey will return .. I didn’t see Ayo’s name mentioned but , might have missed it .

Whatever happened between RJ and Pitino had to be of very serious nature to play out as it has .

We still don’t know and likely won’t know , unless Luis brings it into the Open or , some other player comes foreword .

I don’t think the whole story has come out and may never .


RJ has a lot going for him , elsewhere if he opts to take the NIL money .
Big $$$$.,
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247 Transfer Portal Rankings (4/4/25):
#2 Creighton
#5 St. John's
#18 UConn
#25 Butler
T#29 Xavier
T#29 Georgetown
T#33 Providence
T#33 DePaul
T#54 Seton Hall
2 teams without transfers (Villanova and Marquette)

Very impressive start for the Big East. Won't directly translate obviously, but if our NET rankings look anything like this next year the conference will be stacked.
 
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ESPN Way-Too-Early Top 25:
#4 UConn
#9 St. John's

USA Today:
#3 UConn
#13 St. John's
#21 Creighton

Sports Illustrated:
#4 UConn
#8 St. John's

Fox Sports:
#5 UConn
#8 St. John's
#22 Creighton

On3:
#10 St. John's
#13 UConn
#16 Creighton

Pretty clear (super) early consensus for the BE: UConn and St. John's are elite, Creighton's great, and not much after that.
 
ADORAZ said:
ESPN Way-Too-Early Top 25:
#4 UConn
#9 St. John's

USA Today:
#3 UConn
#13 St. John's
#21 Creighton

Sports Illustrated:
#4 UConn
#8 St. John's

Fox Sports:
#5 UConn
#8 St. John's
#22 Creighton

On3:
#10 St. John's
#13 UConn
#16 Creighton

Pretty clear (super) early consensus for the BE: UConn and St. John's are elite, Creighton's great, and not much after that.
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This is also our floor. Imagine we hit on 3/4s of our targets...
 
dk423 said:
This is also our floor. Imagine we hit on 3/4s of our targets...
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redmannorth said:
Anyone who does not believe Ayo would be a double digit scorer if he got 20-25 minutes à game has never watched basketball. Sim will also be a double digit scorer as he takes a good leap forward.
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I share your optimism about Ayo but, to me, the jury is still out on Sim
I certainly hope that he takes a good leap forward next year but he needs to work on his body and skill development this summer
 
ADORAZ said:
ESPN Way-Too-Early Top 25:
#4 UConn
#9 St. John's

USA Today:
#3 UConn
#13 St. John's
#21 Creighton

Sports Illustrated:
#4 UConn
#8 St. John's

Fox Sports:
#5 UConn
#8 St. John's
#22 Creighton

On3:
#10 St. John's
#13 UConn
#16 Creighton

Pretty clear (super) early consensus for the BE: UConn and St. John's are elite, Creighton's great, and not much after that.
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247 Sports has the Johnnies at #5....

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College basketball top 25 rankings: Houston, Duke lead the way-too-early poll for 2025-26 season

With the transfer portal still roaring and rosters still very much in flux, here's an early look at the top teams heading into the 2025-26 season.
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