2011-2012 FInal Record Prediction
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Cal got in at 17-14 last year. That was the worst record including automatic mid major qualifier last year. STJ doesn't own the NIT anymore, they don't get a free pass like they used to. I'll go out on a limb and say 16-16 won't do it this year either but if they match Cal's record they might get in on SOS, though RPI will be more important and if they don't beat anybody good the SOS won't carry them to a high RPI. Whoever it was that said 14 wins plus one in the BET was saying they'd get in at 15-17 and that's just fantasy, of course.
brooklyndon1
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well i love the fact we have some talent now but the big east is loaded i see 7-11 in bigeast 16-14 overall hopefully a nit bid but i believe we beat some big teams and with strenth of schedule could be interesting
in the below link, Jeff Goodman of CBS Sports predicts a 12 out of 16 finish in the BEast this season.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/story/15928986/conference-countdown-no-1-big-east
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/story/15928986/conference-countdown-no-1-big-east
I'm guessing that this group might even turn a few heads early on only to flatten out a little due to their size and number limitations. I'm hoping that the good will outweigh the bad recruiting-wise and mean that next year will be special. These kids are going to get major minutes and that's the best preparation there is to make a real run when things come together. The Norm Roberts quick hook format won't be a problem and they are going to get super exposure that will make them $$$ in the long run. If they play together there's a happy ending in store for this groundbreaking class. NIT is a decent goal and some surprise BE upsets would be icing on the cake. In this sport sometimes youthful enthusiasm can overcome experience when there's talent on the floor. Fingers crossed all the way.
17-14 (8-10 Big East).
This is contingent upon Amir getting here. Depth is the biggest concern, but the difference between a 7 and 8 man rotation is a big one. For example, last year a lot of us (myself included) were talking about downsizing the rotation from 9 to 7-8 towards the end of the season. If everyone can stay healthy, at 8 the only true depth issue that will remain is the lack of traditional post play.
Traditional being the operative word there. Harkless, Pointer, and Garrett aren't your average small forwards in terms of getting on the backboards. I recall a 2000-2001 team that started Glover (6'5"), Postell (6'6"), and Jesse (6'7") up front.
I'm not suggesting this team can do what that team did. Obviously the experience factor is a huge player. But I am suggesting that Postell and Glover made up for the fact that they were playing 4 and 5 respectively instead of their natural 3 and 4 by turning in ferocious defensive rebounding efforts game after game, and then turned around and created mismatches going the other direction, allowing that squad to overwhelm with athleticism in transition. I see a lot of that potential (rebounding beyond physical expectations, overwhelming transition game) in this team.
Point being, I don't see rebounding being a team strength, but I also don't think it has to be the debilitating factor that is being much discussed. Ditto depth if and when Amir gets here. I think it will be about getting just enough defense out of that zone and just enough rebounding to let our offense decide games. If how much we can score (and not our lack of the aformentioned phases of the game) is driving wins and losses I don't see why middle of the pack Big East and mid-high teens wins wouldn't be on the table. I like this team, and think they surprise a little bit.
This is contingent upon Amir getting here. Depth is the biggest concern, but the difference between a 7 and 8 man rotation is a big one. For example, last year a lot of us (myself included) were talking about downsizing the rotation from 9 to 7-8 towards the end of the season. If everyone can stay healthy, at 8 the only true depth issue that will remain is the lack of traditional post play.
Traditional being the operative word there. Harkless, Pointer, and Garrett aren't your average small forwards in terms of getting on the backboards. I recall a 2000-2001 team that started Glover (6'5"), Postell (6'6"), and Jesse (6'7") up front.
I'm not suggesting this team can do what that team did. Obviously the experience factor is a huge player. But I am suggesting that Postell and Glover made up for the fact that they were playing 4 and 5 respectively instead of their natural 3 and 4 by turning in ferocious defensive rebounding efforts game after game, and then turned around and created mismatches going the other direction, allowing that squad to overwhelm with athleticism in transition. I see a lot of that potential (rebounding beyond physical expectations, overwhelming transition game) in this team.
Point being, I don't see rebounding being a team strength, but I also don't think it has to be the debilitating factor that is being much discussed. Ditto depth if and when Amir gets here. I think it will be about getting just enough defense out of that zone and just enough rebounding to let our offense decide games. If how much we can score (and not our lack of the aformentioned phases of the game) is driving wins and losses I don't see why middle of the pack Big East and mid-high teens wins wouldn't be on the table. I like this team, and think they surprise a little bit.
EXPERIENCE we have none Moose.
tom in salem
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more than 12 games will be extremely difficult.
Tom are there any easy games in the Big East?
Not to my knowledge.
Agreed but they each still have proven players on their rosters. We have Malik Stith and a ton of potential.