Around the Big East 25-26

Jack Williams said:
I think the expectations that Creighton was going to be top 25 this year was always a little ambitious. Kalk, Neal and that leperchuan kid who I can't remember his name were all such massive pieces of the team, with Kalk being a legend in that program for years. Given the guys they added I think it is a lot to ask that they are a force this year. See them as more of a bubble team. Big east looks very lame this year
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paultzman said:
Yeah losing Kalk and their pesky, annoying PG is not easily absorbed. McD, a super HC, will make the best of it and they certainly can overachieve. From small sample last night though, I think is likely a transitional year for them.
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The pesky PG was Steven Ashworth. He was excellent for Creighton. The only way I could have despised him more would be if he played for Yukon.
 
dk423 said:
Agree.

Off the top of my head, I remember Marquette beating Purdue and Creighton beating Kansas.

Very different dynamic last year. The middle looked awful, with Villanova, Georgetown, Seton Hall, Butler, and Providence losing to mid-majors. DePaul looked better than the past, which wasn’t a compliment.

This year. UConn and us are the only two teams that look top 25 worthy. Georgetown looks like, maybe an interesting bubble team or better. Mack impressed me, he clearly put on 10-12lbs and won’t be easy to push off. Edit to include: Caught some of Nova-BYU and think they will have a very high floor due to Willard. They won’t free fall.

I haven’t watched Providence or Marquette yet.

I watched first half of Creighton-Gonzaga. Creighton just isn’t that good, pretty slow, and Freeman is nowhere close to a replacement, or what they need, of Kalk. If it wasn’t for a first half free throw disparity, they would’ve been down much bigger.
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From what you saw of Gonzaga in the first half against Creighton and if the possibility exists to play Gonzaga in Vegas, how do you think St. John's matches up with them?
 
CBA69 said:
From what you saw of Gonzaga in the first half against Creighton and if the possibility exists to play Gonzaga in Vegas, how do you think St. John's matches up with them?
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Johnnies vs Gonzaga would be a hell of a game. Ike and Huff vs Zuby and Hopkins is a high level front court duel.

While I like a few of their guards, not nearly as daunting as Bama's guards. But regardless I think an SJU/Gonzaga game would come down to the last few minutes, only decided by a few possessions. Hopefully we end up playing, cause owe them a beatdown for the last few times we've seen them
 
CBA69 said:
From what you saw of Gonzaga in the first half against Creighton and if the possibility exists to play Gonzaga in Vegas, how do you think St. John's matches up with them?
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Agree with Jack. I think we’re more talented and physically gifted than the Zags, but they’re more connected. We wouldn’t have to double Ike like Creighton did.
 
Jack Williams said:
the fact that I am seeing a lot of talk in here about Georgetown needing to step up for the conference means we are in very bad situation this year as a league
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Outside of St. John's, Georgetown, Ucon and Nova.......the rest of the Big East will never be able to outbid any major power 5 team for NIL players. This is why I detest what has happened to college "amateur" basketball. It's not about coaching or legendary programs any longer......it's just all about the BENJAMINS.
 
Rocket said:
Outside of St. John's, Georgetown, Ucon and Nova.......the rest of the Big East will never be able to outbid any major power 5 team for NIL players. This is why I detest what has happened to college "amateur" basketball. It's not about coaching or legendary programs any longer......it's just all about the BENJAMINS.
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I'd add Marquette and Creighton to that, & maybe DePaul if everything breaks right (like us) but I agree.
 
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