I really like your projected numbers, they are very fair. However, I think Jackson will be a little less and I fail to see the reason to play Zuby 30 minutes à game unless we are in a very close game. Team, Rick and Zuby , aside from padding Zubys stats, would be much better served having Zuby play a little less and others a little more, especially if another big man is brought in.
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Everything here should be looked at with a +|- 2 or so minutes. I do think there will be someone who averages 30 minutes a game though, and zuby is the most likely. Every team in the BE last year had at least one guy average over 30, most had several.
Zuby played 31.8 mpg and 32.6 in conference games last year as a junior with Prey, Vince, and Maker on the roster. Dropping 2 minutes seems like a really good estimate. He needs to be on the court as much as possible.
No, getting NBA evaluation, but playing at SJ this year
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MugCostanza
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Find this interesting as it's something that is kind of known but nobody has spelled it out like this. I think it applies to college basketball even moreso than the NBA. It was pretty clear who our weak link was on the court most of last season and that's why I think Darling can eseentially make or break our season.
I have the opposite view, which is that it's more an NBA thing than a college thing. Not a non-thing in college, but much more difficult for opponents to exploit for a variety of reasons including zone defense, different talent levels, player IQ, coaching, and more.
When you get to the Elite 8 / Final 4 / Championship level then it can definitely be more significant at the college level. But in terms of getting there, I just think it is a million times easier in college basketball to account for a weak link than it is in the pros.
apparently name in draft for informational purposes to see what NBA scouts think of him, but not for real. For real coming to St. John's
Do they need an invite or can every player get evaluated? Curious, why not any of the others doing the same?
Huh?
Interesting...I've never heard anyone actually discuss this before. I've always described football as a weak link sport beyond the QB -- especially the lower you go in competition. I had no problem against a team that had 1 or 2 standouts, but the teams that had 11 solid players were a complete nightmare.
The NBA was always the opposite I felt growing up, but they've added over 100 roster spots since 2004. It's really watered down now. Defensively-oriented college basketball teams can't have weak links.
hattengoat
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what does NM mean on this board? see if somewhat often
Nevermind or No message. You can edit post for a short time after posting it but you can’t delete it. Sometimes posters post something and either see someone else has posted the same thing, change their mind about posting what they posted or posted by mistake (example in the wrong thread). Since they can’t delete it, they go back and edit it to “NM”.
There's been some discussion of it WRT the NBA playoffs. In the Knicks series Detroit is putting Duren on Hart and daring him to shoot 3s. That way Duren can stay in the lane and help out on Brunson and others in the lane. (The corollary to this is that Detroit is putting Tobias Harris on Towns but Harris is competing as hard as he can given the size he's giving up, trying to earn all of those dollars he never earned before I guess).
In the Lakers series Minnesota is just not guarding the Lakers bigs, it's treating them as offensive voids.
So the "weak link" theory in the NBA is that if you have a weak link then it becomes difficult to win because you wind up playing mostly 4 on 5.
I am not at all sure how that translates to college hoops. For one thing zone defenses offset some of that. And for another most college teams have multiple weak links in one regard or another. And not a lot of college teams have the IQ or coaching to take advantage of that strategy even if they could.
It definitely comes into play at times in high-level games. But I don't think to the extent it's relevant in the NBA. Just an opinion, though.
I agree with you. The skill level of a NBA superstar taking advantage of a "weak link" on defense is a far greater skills gap than a college superstar doing that in college. Some of these NBA guys are almost unstoppable even with good, physical defense being played.
Silly Donovan
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If Rick wants to maintain his defensive “agenda” I say he starts Mitchell and brings Sanon or Sellers as first off the bench. Mitchell brings too much to the table in defense, rebounding etc. to not start the game. You don’t need 5 scorers out there. In fact, if Dylan is far better then reported or Jackson at point isn’t working out, then perhaps both Sellers and Sanon come off the bench with Mitchell still starting. I guess only time will tell.