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Not nearly what I was expecting. Uconn fans were pretty complimentary of us
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Alex...don't expect much. Samson...don't expect much. Hassan...don't expect much. Liam...hope he is on. He brings heart every game. Solo...hope he is on. He is not automatic. Tarris...also brings a lot of heart. Offers hope. Rest of bench...ppthhtttt It's time to not expect a run to a...
No offense taken logen.
If someone watches both Rick's and Danny's pressers, they'd say both are decent human beings.
What you say is so true, for them, for me, for you, for everyone, human beings are complicated.
I had no real opinion of Coach K and Wooden, but did of Boeheim, because at least he wasn't a phony. He was irascible, sarcastic, grumpy as all hell, but 100% him. A lot of our fans hated him because his teams beat us often, if he was our coach they would have loved him and how he stuck up for his players, e.g. Jerry McNamara when their own student newspaper called him overrated. ouch.
Last year under Pitino , we had Ledlum and Dingle , Soriano . And , as well as they played they could not reach the level of speed , quickness and athleticism this years team has .
Jenkins , in my opinion , had the speed , knowledge of knowing exactly what Pitino wanted on the Court .
Of course , Pitno loved Daniss from his years at Iona and knowing Rick’s system . I don’t recall Jenkins getting anything but , love from Rick
He had the keys that Rick gave him . Not sure , Rick’s keys this year are anywhere but , his pockets .
Yet !
I’ll disagree with SLYFOX1968 post that Lefty will play as long as he makes threes. I don’t think Pitino plays him if he can’t play decent defense. Pitinos style of constant defensive switching requires all five players leave no defensive liabilities on the floor. Pitino will work constantly to correct a players defensive flaws but he will not play if he can’t play at least decent defense.
He took his medication prior to entering the presser
Absolutely correct. Our coach is all about defense one of the reasons he loves this year's team. If Lefty were to be a three point specialist who can't defend at all (and I emphasize I don't think that appears to be the case) he'd never be more than a situational player on a good Pitino team.
I must confess I just posted on a brief comparison of this year’s team vs last years .
I think it was a fair one but , had to throw a bouquet to my guy , Daniss Jenkins .
Not to rankle Marillac but , just a little tweek.
Yup. Most of what I read felt the same. After the first game I saw a lot of we foul but dont get called on defense.Not nearly what I was expecting. Uconn fans were pretty complimentary of us
St. John's Post Game Thread
Alex...don't expect much. Samson...don't expect much. Hassan...don't expect much. Liam...hope he is on. He brings heart every game. Solo...hope he is on. He is not automatic. Tarris...also brings a lot of heart. Offers hope. Rest of bench...ppthhtttt It's time to not expect a run to a...
Jenkins was a me-first player. Everything was on his terms...like Enright from DePaul. He'd sprint with the ball to a spot and then leave his feet without a plan over and over. He'd step back and take a three at the worst possible points of the game without letting anyone touch the ball. He had historically low fouls drawn -- he'd go 4 games at a time without getting a FT attempt -- which is almost impossible since he dribbled the air out of the ball to a level I have never seen at any level of basketball in my lifetime.
This team is the exact opposite of how he played. They are unselfish and team-first. They draw fouls at a high clip and they are happy to defer to other players. Imagine if Kadary had no conscience like Jenkins? If Jenkins could take 80% of our dribbles, lead our team in shooting, make more than half of the passes of consequence and completely dictate everything, then what could Kadary get away with? Kadary could average 23 10 and 7 a game and we'd be on the bubble.
Kadary puts the team first to a fault. So does Scott. So does Smith. Basically everyone. Smith averages over 40% from three the last two seasons...who would stop him here if he took 7 a game? Pitino has to basically scream at him to be more aggressive.
The team chemistry is off the charts. The whole is exponentially greater than the sum of the parts and that would never be the case for a Jenkins led team. These kids share the ball to a fault and they know they will get it back. The worst feeling in basketball is running down the court multiple possessions in a row and not even touching the ball.
Talented kid? Yes. Great pull-up? Yes. One of our best 3-4 players last year? Yes. The most horrific chemistry killer I have ever seen at any level of basketball in my entire life? Also yes.
I think , which happens on posts since it only gives words and not a full explanation that sometimes interpretation of the poster and reader differ
I said that I think Lefty will be our 3 point shooter next season EVEN IF he couldn’t guard a lawn chair . But , Lefty had shown he can guard .
It’s more a endorsement of his 3 point shooting rather than a slap at his defense .
I think Lefty and Prey have shown they can defend decently .
The intent was to believe he can be a 3 point shooter and he has shown , in brief appearances , that he shoots well . There is no quibbling about his ability to shoot 3’s and every team wants a player who can shoot them over a full season and , not just a game or 2 .
What the actual message was , he shoots good enough that if the Lawn Chair was able to move quickly that Lefty could handle it .
He’s going to get more PT next year on how well he shoots not his defense . It’s adequate , not superior If he doesn’t defend , Pitino pulls him from the game .
One of the most encouraging things from yesterday's game (from a future standpoint) was that Liotopoulos was able to stay on the floor and hold his own defensively. He didn't do anything amazing, but he played the position and did not hurt us at all. If he can do that and make some progress (which I think he will), then that allows him to become a rotational player, which brings his shooting into play as a weapon. Very, very encouraging.
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He hit a three, usually for us that is pretty amazing
can't help yourself can ya? we know it all by heart now, for your sake let it go.
Kid can shoot, there's no doubt in my mind about that. He can be the LW Favorite next season if he can hold his own on the defensive end.
Offensively he reminded me a bit of Sabrina Ionescu, continuous motion looking for an open spot to get the ball and shoot. Loved to see it.
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The difference in last year vs this year is thatPitino only had confidence in Jenkins with the Car keys .
You have still a years criticism of a player that nearly only a few share that opinion.
Jenkins was 2nd team All BE and given his late season surge, might have elevated to 1 st team ? It’s just a opinion . He’s also on a 2 way with the Pistons , the last time I looked .
But , in the Quarter finals Vs the Hall , he did outplay KR .
This year is different ! There are more and better players on stage this season than last .
Jenkins kept us respectable last season .
KR is better thus year too . Excepting Free throws .
Completely agree.
Last year would have been different too if we didn't have the worst teammate in college basketball dictating our entire offense and not stopping anyone on defense. Jenkins would ruin this team. Switch him and Kadary and we are on the wrong side of the bubble. I'll die on this hill for decades. I've never seen a worse teammate. For the sake of the board, let's just agree to drop it. You bring it up more than even Mullin's Revenge.
Larry Wright
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Shot looks pure, much better than either Glover or Dunlap. Guess it will depend on if can play D to Rick’s standards. Obviously tough if have 4 guys playing great D and one guy that struggles.
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