SJU Portal Targets

dk423 said:
I don't think Scott sees any time at the 2.

I think it would be something like:

C: Zuby/Vince/Maker
PF: Omier/Scott/Zuby
SF: Luis/Scott/Dunlap
SG: Wilcher/Glover
PG: Richmond/Greek guy

Still think we'd need a sniper, but that's a tough team defensively.
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I agree but we'd still have room for a another guard from the portal who I would think would be the third option at guard after Richmond & Wilcher (assuming we go after and get Richmond that is)
 
lawmanfan said:
I'm trying to figure out how a roster with Ejafor, Iwuchukwu, Omier, Luis and Scott works.

Fine, you bring Iwuchukwu off the bench.

You gonna start Omier, Ejafor and Luis up front, with Scott and Wilcher in the backcourt? You'd need improved 3 point shooting from Luis but I think you get that.

Now add Richmond. Probably means Wilcher goes to the bench, and while it improves your playmaking and rebounding (not that you need to improve that with that front line) you are down to 1 shooter plus maybe Luis.

And then everyone you bring off the bench except Iwuchukwu is a shooter? (I'm not expecting much from Maker and at the rate we are looking at bigs neither is Pitino).

Just kind of odd to me from a roster construction standpoint.
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Zuby starts at the 5, Omier starts at the 4, Luis and Scott get big minutes at the 3 and 4 on as needed offensive/defensive basis.

Vince gets 10-15 minutes. You roll out some smaller lineups with Omier at the 5 and Scott, Luis, and/or Dunlap at the forwards spots.
 
lawmanfan said:
So this was part of my thinking - you think Scott came to come off the bench? I don't see any of the portal adds other than Iwuchukwu being ok with that
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I actually think he'd be okay coming off the bench. He can still find 20-25 minutes backing up the 3/4. He seems like a kid who wants to win and get coached by Rick, first and foremost. He played 30mpg last year, so a five minute dip isn't unreasonable. Brady is the guy I worry about.
 
SJU85 said:
People talk about him not wanting to play with Posh and wanted to be the primary ball handler, how does that work with Roach who is a PG and a damn good one?
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Doesn’t make sense. Posh willingly plays off the ball 30-50% of the game his whole career.
 
dk423 said:
I actually think he'd be okay coming off the bench. He can still find 20-25 minutes backing up the 3/4. He seems like a kid who wants to win and get coached by Rick, first and foremost. He played 30mpg last year, so a five minute dip isn't unreasonable. Brady is the guy I worry about.
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Well, if you weren't worried about "starting" then it can be balanced out pretty much as Marillac outlined.

You'd think that Zuby and Omier would get about 25 minutes each. 15 for Iwuchukwu and Dunlap. 20 each for Luis and Scott.

Then you have to figure out the backcourt minutes among Wilcher, Glover, Liotopoulos, and 2 portal adds.

If one of those was Richmond then you have to assume he's 25-30 mpg which cuts heavily into someone else's time.

If guys who portal in are ok coming off the bench and freshmen are ok with limited minutes it works - but I'd keep a close eye on team chemistry. Too easy to say "check, please" these days ...
 
lawmanfan said:
Well, if you weren't worried about "starting" then it can be balanced out pretty much as Marillac outlined.

You'd think that Zuby and Omier would get about 25 minutes each. 15 for Iwuchukwu and Dunlap. 20 each for Luis and Scott.

Then you have to figure out the backcourt minutes among Wilcher, Glover, Liotopoulos, and 2 portal adds.

If one of those was Richmond then you have to assume he's 25-30 mpg which cuts heavily into someone else's time.

If guys who portal in are ok coming off the bench and freshmen are ok with limited minutes it works - but I'd keep a close eye on team chemistry. Too easy to say "check, please" these days ...
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Especially if we're adding Kadary.

I think Wilcher would be okay on the bench, as long as he closes out some games and plays 20-25 minutes.

If we didn't have Rick, I'd be a lot more worried.
 
lawmanfan said:
Well, if you weren't worried about "starting" then it can be balanced out pretty much as Marillac outlined.

You'd think that Zuby and Omier would get about 25 minutes each. 15 for Iwuchukwu and Dunlap. 20 each for Luis and Scott.

Then you have to figure out the backcourt minutes among Wilcher, Glover, Liotopoulos, and 2 portal adds.

If one of those was Richmond then you have to assume he's 25-30 mpg which cuts heavily into someone else's time.

If guys who portal in are ok coming off the bench and freshmen are ok with limited minutes it works - but I'd keep a close eye on team chemistry. Too easy to say "check, please" these days ...
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There is also the defensive aspect of NIL to consider. Maybe it’s not the best idea to let a kid play 30 minutes and get inflated stats in this era?

Kind of like the MLB service time manipulation.
 
lawmanfan said:
Well, if you weren't worried about "starting" then it can be balanced out pretty much as Marillac outlined.

You'd think that Zuby and Omier would get about 25 minutes each. 15 for Iwuchukwu and Dunlap. 20 each for Luis and Scott.

Then you have to figure out the backcourt minutes among Wilcher, Glover, Liotopoulos, and 2 portal adds.

If one of those was Richmond then you have to assume he's 25-30 mpg which cuts heavily into someone else's time.

If guys who portal in are ok coming off the bench and freshmen are ok with limited minutes it works - but I'd keep a close eye on team chemistry. Too easy to say "check, please" these days ...
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Let’s face it, team chemistry is flying out the window and you potentially have Pitino playing the mad scientist again wondering who to play where and when………not to mention how class acts Wilcher and Dunlap, both players and fathers, will feel about getting recruited over and development stunted. The days of players learning from their mistakes seems to be pointing towards the new JCs, mid-majors.
 
logen said:
Let’s face it, team chemistry is flying out the window and you potentially have Pitino playing the mad scientist again wondering who to play where and when………not to mention how class acts Wilcher and Dunlap, both players and fathers, will feel about getting recruited over and development stunted. The days of players learning from their mistakes seems to be pointing towards the new JCs, mid-majors.
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The good thing with Dunlap is that his dad has literally already complained about the COVID extra year already, so he's aware of the dynamics. Especially as an assistant coach in college. We can imagine Rick and him have had frank talks and are aware of the plans laid. If he really does get his shooting together, he also adds something the roster will need.
 
dk423 said:
The good thing with Dunlap is that his dad has literally already complained about the COVID extra year already, so he's aware of the dynamics. Especially as an assistant coach in college. We can imagine Rick and him have had frank talks and are aware of the plans laid. If he really does get his shooting together, he also adds something the roster will need.
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Why would a guy like Glover come here. Or the Greek kid. There will be little time to go around.
 
dk423 said:
The good thing with Dunlap is that his dad has literally already complained about the COVID extra year already, so he's aware of the dynamics. Especially as an assistant coach in college. We can imagine Rick and him have had frank talks and are aware of the plans laid. If he really does get his shooting together, he also adds something the roster will need.
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There are no good things in any of this as far as I am concerned.
 
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