Zendon Hamilton

I figured it was only a matter of time before someone suggested Zendon be a coach here. Now I have no idea whether or not he can coach, but if the BB IQ that he exhibited during his 4 years here is any indictor, I would look elsewhere.

What does his BB IQ as a player have to do with anything?

I'd rather see Zendon on that bench everyday of the week than Gene Keady.

Zendon is our product and he made the league as a player and has tried to gain coaching experience. Nothing wrong with that.

Solid programs bring back former players because it gives some credibility. We need to do more of it.

IMO heady players generally make better coaches. Zendon was not the headiest of players.

Well in the comparison I made Zendon could be blind I think and he'd still win going away.
 
Was he sitting to the left of the basket?

How about making Werdann the coach, Hamilton the big man coach and Felipe the the recruiter. Let them bring in Barkley or one of our other former standout guards to fill out the staff.

Barkley just got in trouble for punching a parent when he was coaching an AAU team, don't think he would be coming aboard.

More fire than anyone on our staff.

Maybe he can bring Metta(or whatever name he goes by now) on as an assistant. They'd lend new meaning to the term "beat down".
 
IMO heady players generally make better coaches. Zendon was not the headiest of players.

He really should have gone to a city Catholic school. Even one on LI would have been better for his development than Sewanhaka. In hindsight, we should be thrilled by what he did here, because he was intimidated by every 6'6" kid he ever faced in high school.
 
Was he sitting to the left of the basket?

How about making Werdann the coach, Hamilton the big man coach and Felipe the the recruiter. Let them bring in Barkley or one of our other former standout guards to fill out the staff.

Yea, he can teach our big men how to double pump driving to the basket so that when they bring the ball down below their knees a guard can slap it away. He could have used his own big man coach.
 
Was he sitting to the left of the basket?

How about making Werdann the coach, Hamilton the big man coach and Felipe the the recruiter. Let them bring in Barkley or one of our other former standout guards to fill out the staff.

Barkley just got in trouble for punching a parent when he was coaching an AAU team, don't think he would be coming aboard.

More fire than anyone on our staff.

Yea, when Harrison went off on our assistants when Lavin was at his father's funeral, it would have gone a few rounds if Barkley was on the bench.
 
Was he sitting to the left of the basket?

How about making Werdann the coach, Hamilton the big man coach and Felipe the the recruiter. Let them bring in Barkley or one of our other former standout guards to fill out the staff.

Yea, he can teach our big men how to double pump driving to the basket so that when they bring the ball down below their knees a guard can slap it away. He could have used his own big man coach.
Not to mention to fall down 10 times a game.
 
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I figured it was only a matter of time before someone suggested Zendon be a coach here. Now I have no idea whether or not he can coach, but if the BB IQ that he exhibited during his 4 years here is any indictor, I would look elsewhere.

What does his BB IQ as a player have to do with anything?

I'd rather see Zendon on that bench everyday of the week than Gene Keady.

Zendon is our product and he made the league as a player and has tried to gain coaching experience. Nothing wrong with that.

Solid programs bring back former players because it gives some credibility. We need to do more of it.

IMO heady players generally make better coaches. Zendon was not the headiest of players.

Is Jason Kidd a good coach? Probably one of the highest BB IQs ever and he couldn't draw up offensive plays as the coach of the Nets.

By the responses in this thread I guess I see why former players turn their backs on this school.

Who cares what he did or how he played over 15+ years ago? Are people still steaming over what could've been? That's a shame.

Chris Webber I can understand. But Zendon?

Amazing
 
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I figured it was only a matter of time before someone suggested Zendon be a coach here. Now I have no idea whether or not he can coach, but if the BB IQ that he exhibited during his 4 years here is any indictor, I would look elsewhere.

What does his BB IQ as a player have to do with anything?

I'd rather see Zendon on that bench everyday of the week than Gene Keady.

Zendon is our product and he made the league as a player and has tried to gain coaching experience. Nothing wrong with that.

Solid programs bring back former players because it gives some credibility. We need to do more of it.

IMO heady players generally make better coaches. Zendon was not the headiest of players.

Is Jason Kidd a good coach? Probably one of the highest BB IQs ever and he couldn't draw up offensive plays as the coach of the Nets.

By the responses in this thread I guess I see why former players turn their backs on this school.

Who cares what he did or how he played over 15+ years ago? Are people still steaming over what could've been? That's a shame.

Chris Webber I can understand. But Zendon?

Amazing

Yes, I understand your point and it's a good one. But I guess in your opinion it's completely legitimate to trash the current coach even as he is trying to land high level recruit, but it's hands off in terms of responding to suggestions that a totally unqualified former player be hired for our coaching staff?
 
In hindsight, we should be thrilled by what he did here, because he was intimidated by every 6'6" kid he ever faced in high school.

Thrilled by a kid who averaged 20 points and 10 rebounds as a sophomore and nearly a double double for his career? No. Why would anyone be thrilled with that. Players like that are a dime a dozen. The important question is whether he was heady, smart and articulate as such high IQ talents as Steve Shurina, Terrance Mullin, Paul Berwanger, John Hemphill, Mike Cavataio, Phil Missere, Heath Orvis, John Shienmann, Max Hooper, Marco Bourgault, Tom Calabrese, Frank Gilroy, Terry Bross and Jamal White. All of those heady smart intelligent players would be welcome on my bench. Wait, Jamal White? How'd he slip through there. Anyway, the point remains.
 
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I figured it was only a matter of time before someone suggested Zendon be a coach here. Now I have no idea whether or not he can coach, but if the BB IQ that he exhibited during his 4 years here is any indictor, I would look elsewhere.

What does his BB IQ as a player have to do with anything?

I'd rather see Zendon on that bench everyday of the week than Gene Keady.

Zendon is our product and he made the league as a player and has tried to gain coaching experience. Nothing wrong with that.

Solid programs bring back former players because it gives some credibility. We need to do more of it.

IMO heady players generally make better coaches. Zendon was not the headiest of players.

Is Jason Kidd a good coach? Probably one of the highest BB IQs ever and he couldn't draw up offensive plays as the coach of the Nets.

By the responses in this thread I guess I see why former players turn their backs on this school.

Who cares what he did or how he played over 15+ years ago? Are people still steaming over what could've been? That's a shame.

Chris Webber I can understand. But Zendon?

Amazing

Yes, I understand your point and it's a good one. But I guess in your opinion it's completely legitimate to trash the current coach even as he is trying to land high level recruit, but it's hands off in terms of responding to suggestions that a totally unqualified former player be hired for our coaching staff?

Lavin is being trashed because he's a highly paid Head coach who has years of experience and has been to the Sweet 16 but still struggles with timeouts, substitutions, drawing up plays and has done more talking than executing for 4 years.

Wouldn't you say that Lavin is more than qualified to do the job or no?

And what does that have to do with former player who has actually contributed to the school, made the NBA and has coached a D-League affiliate?

Zendon is in training. Lavin is way past training.
 
In hindsight, we should be thrilled by what he did here, because he was intimidated by every 6'6" kid he ever faced in high school.

Thrilled by a kid who averaged 20 points and 10 rebounds as a sophomore and nearly a double double for his career? No. Why would anyone be thrilled with that. Players like that are a dime a dozen. The important question is whether he was heady, smart and articulate as such high IQ talents as Steve Shurina, Terrance Mullin, Paul Berwanger, John Hemphill, Mike Cavataio, Phil Missere, Heath Orvis, John Shienmann, Max Hooper, Marco Bourgault, Tom Calabrese, Frank Gilroy, Terry Bross and Jamal White. All of those heady smart intelligent players would be welcome on my bench. Wait, Jamal White? How'd he slip through there. Anyway, the point remains.

They let you back in this place?

Also, not all SJU fans are subconsciously racist.
 
In hindsight, we should be thrilled by what he did here, because he was intimidated by every 6'6" kid he ever faced in high school.

Thrilled by a kid who averaged 20 points and 10 rebounds as a sophomore and nearly a double double for his career? No. Why would anyone be thrilled with that. Players like that are a dime a dozen. The important question is whether he was heady, smart and articulate as such high IQ talents as Steve Shurina, Terrance Mullin, Paul Berwanger, John Hemphill, Mike Cavataio, Phil Missere, Heath Orvis, John Shienmann, Max Hooper, Marco Bourgault, Tom Calabrese, Frank Gilroy, Terry Bross and Jamal White. All of those heady smart intelligent players would be welcome on my bench. Wait, Jamal White? How'd he slip through there. Anyway, the point remains.

They let you back in this place?

Also, not all SJU fans are subconsciously racist.

It's interesting to me - mildly interesting - how every reply to my every post contains references to me personally, rather than to the basketball subject I'm addressing. I would hope that moving forward posters would refrain from such remarks and not attempt to disrupt such threads in which as I choose to participate. My understanding is that such conduct is frowned upon. I realize that'll be difficult, because I'm fascinating, but maybe give it a whirl. That said, you're confused: I was never asked to refrain from posting here and neither did I say anything about anyone's subconscious.
 
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I figured it was only a matter of time before someone suggested Zendon be a coach here. Now I have no idea whether or not he can coach, but if the BB IQ that he exhibited during his 4 years here is any indictor, I would look elsewhere.

What does his BB IQ as a player have to do with anything?

I'd rather see Zendon on that bench everyday of the week than Gene Keady.

Zendon is our product and he made the league as a player and has tried to gain coaching experience. Nothing wrong with that.

Solid programs bring back former players because it gives some credibility. We need to do more of it.

IMO heady players generally make better coaches. Zendon was not the headiest of players.

Is Jason Kidd a good coach? Probably one of the highest BB IQs ever and he couldn't draw up offensive plays as the coach of the Nets.

By the responses in this thread I guess I see why former players turn their backs on this school.

Who cares what he did or how he played over 15+ years ago? Are people still steaming over what could've been? That's a shame.

Chris Webber I can understand. But Zendon?

Amazing

I didn't say always, I said usually. Kidd probably should have gotten his feet wet as an assistant before having a HC position bestowed upon him. Even for a heady player, that's a big leap. As for Zendon, I for one am not steamed over how he played 15 years ago. In fact after his freshman year, I really thought that he had a chance to develop on to one of the best big men in the country. Stats aside, that never happened. In fact he seemed to regress. Maybe he turns out to be an awesome head coach at some point down the, but I don't see a reason to look to add him to the staff at any point in the near future.
 
In hindsight, we should be thrilled by what he did here, because he was intimidated by every 6'6" kid he ever faced in high school.

Thrilled by a kid who averaged 20 points and 10 rebounds as a sophomore and nearly a double double for his career? No. Why would anyone be thrilled with that. Players like that are a dime a dozen. The important question is whether he was heady, smart and articulate as such high IQ talents as Steve Shurina, Terrance Mullin, Paul Berwanger, John Hemphill, Mike Cavataio, Phil Missere, Heath Orvis, John Shienmann, Max Hooper, Marco Bourgault, Tom Calabrese, Frank Gilroy, Terry Bross and Jamal White. All of those heady smart intelligent players would be welcome on my bench. Wait, Jamal White? How'd he slip through there. Anyway, the point remains.

They let you back in this place?

Also, not all SJU fans are subconsciously racist.

It's interesting to me - mildly interesting - how every reply to my every post contains references to me personally, rather than to the basketball subject I'm addressing. I would hope that moving forward posters would refrain from such remarks and not attempt to disrupt such threads in which as I choose to participate. My understanding is that such conduct is frowned upon. I realize that'll be difficult, because I'm fascinating, but maybe give it a whirl. That said, you're confused: I was never asked to refrain from posting here and neither did I say anything about anyone's subconscious.

I was merely setting you up. You know I agree with you in regards to MattBrust-syndrome.
It's pretty overt in many cases.

You also happen to be correct about Zendon. The man is habitually under-appreciated around here. Which isn't to say he was an elite player, just a far cry from the big men we've had in recent years.
 
In hindsight, we should be thrilled by what he did here, because he was intimidated by every 6'6" kid he ever faced in high school.

Thrilled by a kid who averaged 20 points and 10 rebounds as a sophomore and nearly a double double for his career? No. Why would anyone be thrilled with that. Players like that are a dime a dozen. The important question is whether he was heady, smart and articulate as such high IQ talents as Steve Shurina, Terrance Mullin, Paul Berwanger, John Hemphill, Mike Cavataio, Phil Missere, Heath Orvis, John Shienmann, Max Hooper, Marco Bourgault, Tom Calabrese, Frank Gilroy, Terry Bross and Jamal White. All of those heady smart intelligent players would be welcome on my bench. Wait, Jamal White? How'd he slip through there. Anyway, the point remains.

Yes, thrilled. Even though he averaged 27 and 15, and 32 and 13 as a junior and senior, I don't think any experts would have expected the 20 and 10 sophomore season he put up here. He grabbed most of his high school rebounds without jumping because he was so much taller than anyone in Class C. He was easily intimidated by anyone even remotely close to his height, and that's a big reason why Sewanhaka never even made it to the Nassau Class C finals when he played there. Not a very great accomplishment relative to his stats.

And even though he put up some of the best numbers for a big man in St. John's history, lots of fans were still not thrilled. Neither were BE voters, since he is the only 20 and 10 guy in the history of the conference to not make first team all-Big East.
 
Where would any of us be today if our intelligence, ability, and capacity to learn and grow in a particular field wasn't being judged as the 39 year old experienced man being considered today, but the 21 year old kid version of ourselves in the 90s? Anyone who wants to judge Zendon's current basketball acumen, solely through the lens of the player he was, is insulting Z. I have no idea what type of coach Zendon would make at this point, but I know that remembering him getting repeatedly stripped by Georgetown players (when he would mindbogglingly put the ball on the paint as opposed to taking the offensive rebound right back to the basket - but I digress), is about as useless a manner of forecasting the type of coach he projects to be as looking at a lawyer's yellow page ad to decide if he's capable of handling my case. I hope he finds another opportunity and would love welcoming one of our own into the coaching staff.
 
And even though he put up some of the best numbers for a big man in St. John's history, lots of fans were still not thrilled. Neither were BE voters, since he is the only 20 and 10 guy in the history of the conference to not make first team all-Big East.

Evidently they were somewhat thrilled: he made the second team.
 
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