Yukon looking to rekindle Big East rivalries

Now you guys want to give cuse and uconn TWO games at MSG for a recruiting tool. No thanks. Plus tourneys like Hol Fest have been dying out cause teams like these don't want to commit to 2 away from home games that are not exempt tournaments especially playing 2 tough teams. It will not happen.
 
Now you guys want to give cuse and uconn TWO games at MSG for a recruiting tool. No thanks. Plus tourneys like Hol Fest have been dying out cause teams like these don't want to commit to 2 away from home games that are not exempt tournaments especially playing 2 tough teams. It will not happen.
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Cuse and UConn will probably find a way into the Garden with our participation or not, so I'd rather we be involved somehow.

Honestly, I'd invite them along with W.Va. every season if there was a way to swing it.
 
Now you guys want to give cuse and uconn TWO games at MSG for a recruiting tool. No thanks. Plus tourneys like Hol Fest have been dying out cause teams like these don't want to commit to 2 away from home games that are not exempt tournaments especially playing 2 tough teams. It will not happen.
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Cuse, Duke, Uconn and a handful of others will find there way into MSG one way or the other with or without us. At least let's try to bring back the luster that was the Holiday Festival.

To be honest, I'd rather play UConn than the others for the reasons stated in a previous post but appreciate a rivalry with Cuse also. Sometimes it's not personal, just business.
 
I would like to see them back in the big east. The tournament is not the same. Sad but true.

If the schools don't want to share the money they need to think about the next contract. The buzz needs to increase for the ratings, crowds and coverage to improve.

Right now these indicators suck. At least the ratings and crowds suck
 
I would play them because the game would probably draw a great crowd. If we don't play them Conn can schedule an annual game in MSG vs one of 25 teams and with their fan base draw 14,000.
Games at MSG vs SYR, Conn and Duke played before near capacity crowds are what will help recruit the players this staff are looking for.
Games vs the local teams help them but mean nothing for SJU.
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Not only that but it would be more likely to be a nationally (or regionally) televised than say SJU vs LIU.
 
I honestly feel that UConn is in trouble and in 5 years will be basically irrelevant. The Big East is almost always mentioned with the Power 5 ( ), the AAC is not. I think St. John's is better served to get a series going with somebody else. UConn will just not add the value like they used to.

I have said it before but Villanova will beat UConn in football this September and it is going to make them realize how silly it is to keep trying to do what they are doing. I know they are holding out for a Power 5 conference invite but if that never happens they are doomed. They need to park football in a competitive FCS league, and move their hoops to the Big East before they become irrelevant.
 
Not me. I am tired of seeing the same old opponents on the non-conference schedule. When I see the same old teams (not conference foes) I don't look forward to the upcoming season as much. There are plenty of other good teams out there to schedule home and home games against. Grant it, St. Mary's and Long Beach State weren't great teams, but at least they were new opponents, even though we did play the Gaels before. It made the schedule look newer and had a fresh look to it. Some new opponents (Franklin Pierce) we can do without.
 
Only schedule UCONN as a last resort if we can't schedule with someone else that does a reasonably good job of helping us sell seats to the game. Doesn't have to be as much as UCONN would, just something reasonable.

We don't want to help uconn any way shape or form. Don't want to help syracuse or boston college either, etc. Just try to schedule someone else big other than them. That should be the goal.
 
Only schedule UCONN as a last resort if we can't schedule with someone else that does a reasonably good job of helping us sell seats to the game. Doesn't have to be as much as UCONN would, just something reasonable.

We don't want to help uconn any way shape or form. Don't want to help syracuse or boston college either, etc. Just try to schedule someone else big other than them. That should be the goal.
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Thanks BK8664!
I do not want to schedule UConn or Syracuse again, nor to give them that opportunity/satisfaction to confront a Chris Mullin high ceiling team - consistent with that - let's be creative - I bet Chris will be - and schedule home & home against a myriad of quality & intriguing teams e.g. let's see...
UNLV, Florida, Wisconsin, Harvard, Iowa State, Gonzaga, Wright State, Wichata State, Clemson, Utah, UTEP and (help me fill in the blanks)...

UConn Syracuse Notre Dame have as much to gain as we do if they play us - AND - as we move upward in glamour, attractiveness, powerhouse standing - they could have more to gain.
There are viable options to UConn & Syracuse...
:)
all the best
 
Only schedule UCONN as a last resort if we can't schedule with someone else that does a reasonably good job of helping us sell seats to the game. Doesn't have to be as much as UCONN would, just something reasonable.

We don't want to help uconn any way shape or form. Don't want to help syracuse or boston college either, etc. Just try to schedule someone else big other than them. That should be the goal.
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Thanks BK8664!
I do not want to schedule UConn or Syracuse again, nor to give them that opportunity/satisfaction to confront a Chris Mullin high ceiling team - consistent with that - let's be creative - I bet Chris will be - and schedule home & home against a myriad of quality & intriguing teams e.g. let's see...
UNLV, Florida, Wisconsin, Harvard, Iowa State, Gonzaga, Wright State, Wichata State, Clemson, Utah, UTEP and (help me fill in the blanks)...

UConn Syracuse Notre Dame have as much to gain as we do if they play us - AND - as we move upward in glamour, attractiveness, powerhouse standing - they could have more to gain.
There are viable options to UConn & Syracuse...
:)
all the best
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Already too late on the Syracuse rant. WE have already booked home and home with them. I believe it goes beyong last year and next?
 
One problem playing Syracuse is if we play at Syracuse it is a completely hostile crowd and they have so many alumni in NYC that MSG is a home game for them also. That gives them an advantage. I will admit,however, it was sweat beating them last year. Similar problem w Uconn. I like rivalries and wouldn't mind playing them. Maybe a game at Barclays , which would be counted as a neutral court might be a solution.
 
ADD UCONN TO SCHED; WILL HELP MULLIN RECRUIT; WILL DRAW OVER 10K FANS..TO MSG..AND MAYBE THEY WILL JUMP TO BIG EAST WITH FOOTBALL STAYING PUT..IN AAC
 
ADD UCONN TO SCHED; WILL HELP MULLIN RECRUIT; WILL DRAW OVER 10K FANS..TO MSG..AND MAYBE THEY WILL JUMP TO BIG EAST WITH FOOTBALL STAYING PUT..IN AAC
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That's a capital idea! :)
 
Syracuse University's long time Athlethic Director Jake Crothemal shrewdly devised the strategy in 2003 adopted by the remaining Big East schools after the first ACC raid of VaTeck, Boston College and UMiami whereby the Big East schools refused to schedule the former members. Crothemal reasoned that it would deprive VaTeck, BC and Miami the opportunity to recruit within the Big East footprint and prevent them from being compared to the Big East schools thereby making them less relevant in the northeast.

I agree with Crothamel's thinking. Yeah, SU and Yukon can get an annual out of conference game at the Garden but I would rather Yukon/ Syracuse play a Big 10 or SEC school at the Garden than play StJohn's or Villanova.

Syracuse is in a better position for relevancy than Yukon since it is in the ACC. In my opinion Yukon is a risk of becoming less relevant as a heavyweight on the national scene playing in the prestigious AAC playing many untelevised games against irrelevant conference members. IMO St.John's should not play Yukon in an out of conference game.
 
Didn't UConn win the National Championship as a dark horse the year before last with a first year head coach with no previous head coaching experience?

I say let Chris decide if he wants them fine, if he doesn't that is fine too.

I'm a bit worried about our conference, Butler, Xavier, DePaul and Marquette are not really marquee names, and Seton Hall isn't either. Watching the NBA draft was not a rousing BE festival.

Oh, for the good old days of the real Big East. Remember the AAC changed their name but they are truly the legal successor to the "old BE!

We got the name and the rights to the "records", but we are a brand new league.
 
Didn't UConn win the National Championship as a dark horse the year before last with a first year head coach with no previous head coaching experience?

I say let Chris decide if he wants them fine, if he doesn't that is fine too.

I'm a bit worried about our conference, Butler, Xavier, DePaul and Marquette are not really marquee names, and Seton Hall isn't either. Watching the NBA draft was not a rousing BE festival.

Oh, for the good old days of the real Big East. Remember the AAC changed their name but they are truly the legal successor to the "old BE!

We got the name and the rights to the "records", but we are a brand new league.
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Umm Uconn won with a head with no head coaching experience because the players had experience. This year's team is not even close to that uconn team. They have not even played a single game together, how would you expect then to win a national title. let's calm our expectations for the first year folks.
 
Syracuse University's long time Athlethic Director Jake Crothemal shrewdly devised the strategy in 2003 adopted by the remaining Big East schools after the first ACC raid of VaTeck, Boston College and UMiami whereby the Big East schools refused to schedule the former members. Crothemal reasoned that it would deprive VaTeck, BC and Miami the opportunity to recruit within the Big East footprint and prevent them from being compared to the Big East schools thereby making them less relevant in the northeast.

I agree with Crothamel's thinking. Yeah, SU and Yukon can get an annual out of conference game at the Garden but I would rather Yukon/ Syracuse play a Big 10 or SEC school at the Garden than play StJohn's or Villanova.

Syracuse is in a better position for relevancy than Yukon since it is in the ACC. In my opinion Yukon is a risk of becoming less relevant as a heavyweight on the national scene playing in the prestigious AAC playing many untelevised games against irrelevant conference members. IMO St.John's should not play Yukon in an out of conference game.
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Otis, put an exclamation point on my Thank You regarding scheduling. Not sure I totally agree regarding yukon/scuse.
The thing with yukon is they essentially have limitless money and enthusiastic tax payers willing to provide it. Seems to me like scuse is dancing this fine line where they are simultaneously looking to distance themselves from JB and somehow send him out a hero because the University identity is so entangled with him. So they're in limbo hoping that a couple of years (and short attention spans) will get them there but I think it will be pretty painful for at least 3 more years in the ACC dungeon.
 
Didn't UConn win the National Championship as a dark horse the year before last with a first year head coach with no previous head coaching experience?

I say let Chris decide if he wants them fine, if he doesn't that is fine too.

I'm a bit worried about our conference, Butler, Xavier, DePaul and Marquette are not really marquee names, and Seton Hall isn't either. Watching the NBA draft was not a rousing BE festival.

Oh, for the good old days of the real Big East. Remember the AAC changed their name but they are truly the legal successor to the "old BE!

We got the name and the rights to the "records", but we are a brand new league.
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So we get the name, MSG, records, mindshare and most the original teams while AAC gets...?

2 teams in this year's tournament, both eliminated first round.

Get used to it we're not the same league but things could be much worse.
 
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