Your prediction re: St. John's Win/ loss record is

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Now that everyone has had an opportunity to watch and evaluate the new St. John's players at Midnight Madness I wanted to challenge everyone to predict how St. John's will do during the regular season on a game by game basis.

I have pasted St. John's regular season schedule below and ask that you copy & paste the schedule and predict, game by game what games St. john's will win and which ones you believe that StJ's will lose and what their regular season record will be.

It will be interesting to see who is closest the the final record at the end of the season.

Thanks.

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Detroit

@ College of Charleston

(away) Murray State/ Auburn

(away) TBA Tournament

Holy Cross

Florida Gulf Coast

South Carolina

NJIT

@ SanFrancisco

(MSG) Fordham

(Barclays Center) St. Francis

UNC Ashville

@ Villanova

@ Cincinnati

(MSG) RUTgers

(MSG) Georgetown

(MSG) Notre Dame

@ DePaul

@ Georgetown

(MSG) Yukon

@ University of Syracuse

@ Louisville

USF

(MSG) Pitts

@ Providence College

@ Notre Dame

(MSG) Marquette

St. John's regular season record will be ____ wins and ______ losses. 
 
Detroit...... Win

@ College of Charleston..... Win

(away) Murray State/ Auburn .... Win

(away) TBA Tournament..... Win

Holy Cross .... Win

Florida Gulf Coast.... Win

South Carolina..... Win

NJIT.... Win

@ SanFrancisco .... Win

(MSG) Fordham..... Win

(Barclays Center) St. Francis..... Win

UNC Ashville..... Win

@ Villanova..... Win

@ Cincinnati..... Loss

(MSG) RUTgers..... Win

(MSG) Georgetown...... Loss

(MSG) Notre Dame...... Win

@ DePaul...... Win

@ Georgetown..... Win

(MSG) Yukon...... Win

@ University of Syracuse.... Loss

@ Louisville...... Loss

USF...... Loss

(MSG) Pitts.... Loss

@ Providence College...... Win

@ Notre Dame....... Loss

(MSG) Marquette ..... Loss

St. John's regular season record will be 19 wins and 8 losses.
 
Otis, we're missing a few games that I've added in the middle of our BE schedule. So, here goes nothing.

 Detroit...... Win

@ College of Charleston..... Win

(away) Murray State/ Auburn .... Win

(away) TBA Tournament..... Loss

Holy Cross .... Win

Florida Gulf Coast.... Win

South Carolina..... Win

NJIT.... Win

@ SanFrancisco .... Win

(MSG) Fordham..... Win

(Barclays Center) St. Francis..... Win

UNC Ashville..... Win

@ Villanova..... Win

@ Cincinnati.....Loss

(MSG) Rutgers..... Win

(MSG) Georgetown...... Loss

(MSG) Notre Dame...... Win

@ DePaul...... Win

@ Rutgers....Loss

(MSG) Seton Hall....Win

(MSG) DePaul...Win

@ Georgetown..... Loss

(MSG) Yukon...... Win

@ University of Syracuse.... Loss

@ Louisville...... Loss

USF...... Win

(MSG) Pitts.... Win

@ Providence College...... Win

@ Notre Dame....... Loss

(MSG) Marquette ..... Win

St. John's regular season record will be 22 wins and 8 losses.
 
Haven't posted in a while but I am excited about the season. Here it goes:

Detroit...... Win

@ College of Charleston..... Win

(away) Murray State/ Auburn .... Loss

(away) TBA Tournament..... Win

Holy Cross .... Win

Florida Gulf Coast.... Win

South Carolina..... Win

NJIT.... Win

@ San Francisco .... Win

(MSG) Fordham..... Win

(Barclays Center) St. Francis..... Win

UNC Ashville..... Win

@ Villanova..... Loss

@ Cincinnati.....Loss

(MSG) Rutgers..... Win

(MSG) Georgetown...... Loss

(MSG) Notre Dame...... Win

@ DePaul...... Win

@ Rutgers....Win

(MSG) Seton Hall....Win

(MSG) DePaul...Win

@ Georgetown..... Loss

(MSG) Yukon...... Loss

@ University of Syracuse.... Loss

@ Louisville...... Loss

USF...... Win

(MSG) Pitts.... Win

@ Providence College...... Win

@ Notre Dame....... Loss

(MSG) Marquette ..... Win

St. John's regular season record will be wins 21 and 9 losses.
 
 
 
Detroit...win

@ College of Charleston...win

(away) Murray State/ Auburn...win

(away) TBA Tournament...loss

Holy Cross...win

Florida Gulf Coast...win

South Carolina...loss

NJIT...win

@ SanFrancisco...win

(MSG) Fordham...win

(Barclays Center) St. Francis...win

UNC Ashville...win

@ Villanova...loss

@ Cincinnati...loss

(MSG) RUTgers...win

(MSG) Georgetown...loss

(MSG) Notre Dame...loss

@ DePaul...win

@ Georgetown...loss

(MSG) Yukon...loss

@ University of Syracuse...loss

@ Louisville...loss

USF...win

(MSG) Pitts...loss

@ Providence College...win

@ Notre Dame...win

(MSG) Marquette...loss

St. John's regular season record will be 15 wins and 12 losses.


Sorry, but I think this is 100% realistic. Not many teams can have a bunch of freshmen and sophomores and win 20+ games like it's nothing. We improve, and get over .500, but next year is the year I expect about 20 wins.
 
 Detroit. Win

@ College of Charleston- Win

(away) Murray State/ Auburn- Loss

(away) TBA Tournament- Win

Holy Cross- Win

Florida Gulf Coast- Win

South Carolina- Win

NJIT- Win

@ SanFrancisco- loss

(MSG) Fordham- Win

(Barclays Center) St. Francis- Win

UNC Ashville- Win

@ Villanova- Win

@ Cincinnati- Loss

(MSG) RUTgers- Win

(MSG) Georgetown- Loss

(MSG) Notre Dame- Win

@ DePaul- Loss

@ Georgetown- Loss

(MSG) Yukon- Win

@ University of Syracuse- Win

@ Louisville- Loss

USF- Win

(MSG) Pitts- Win

@ Providence College- Loss

@ Notre Dame- Win

(MSG) Marquette- Win

St. John's regular season record will be ___19_ wins and _____8_ losses. 

Some people added it up wrong and have 30 total reg season games as opposed to 27. OOC shouldn't pose a problem but for a young team I see a potential slip up against San Francisco. Biggest win of the year will be at the Carrier Dome against SU in what will finally propel this years team into NCAA tournament talk.
 
You missed  3 games between @ DePaul and @ G-Town
Jan 23 @ RU, Jan 27 vs SHU and Vs. DePaul

I think we`ll lose vs. Baylor in a hard fought battle then slip up some where against a team that we should beat.
Going 10-2 in OOC

I can`t give exactly wins and losses

Probably split @ Nova and Cincy 1-1
probably win 2 of the 3 at home with RU G-Town and ND 3-2
split @ DePaul and RU 4-3
Win 3 of 4 Vs. SHU and DePaul @ G-Town and Vs yukon 7-4
lose both @ Cuse and L`Ville 7-6
win both vs USF and Pitt 9-6
and lose 2 of 3 @ Providence and ND, vs. Marq

20-10 10-8 borderline NCAa but hopefully that gets us Tuesday off and 2 wins in the B.E. then see what happens
 
 I will not predict specific wins or losses but will say this team will win 20 regular season games and one or 2 in the BE tourney to return to the NCAA tourney.
Lavin has too much depth and pressing options not to win 20. If Karr, Orlando and Chris learn the team playbook quickly, only 4 opponents are likely losses.....Syracuse, Louisville, Gtown and Pitt in the Big East. We may lose to SC, Baylor or SF but they are winnable.
The biggest surprise on this squad will be Christian Jones off the bench.
 
 I will not predict specific wins or losses but will say this team will win 20 regular season games and one or 2 in the BE tourney to return to the NCAA tourney.
Lavin has too much depth and pressing options not to win 20. If Karr, Orlando and Chris learn the team playbook quickly, only 4 opponents are likely losses.....Syracuse, Louisville, Gtown and Pitt in the Big East. We may lose to SC, Baylor or SF but they are winnable.
The biggest surprise on this squad will be Christian Jones off the bench.
 

I also won't go into predicting specific wins or losses. I'll also agree with you in believing this team will win, at the least, 20 regular season games prior to the conference tournament.

I think we will, at the least, split with G'town, and probably lose to 'Cuse and Louisville. I'm not sure about the Pitt game at the moment. I'll be shocked, if we were to lose to South Carolina. I think they are going to be a bad team. Two of their better, if not best, players from last season transferred. Quite frankly, they didn't replace those two guys during the offseason. I know anything can happen, as we lost to Northeastern last season, but I just do not believe we'll lose to the Gamecocks.

The only non-conference game I feel we may lose is in the championship game in Charleston (ie, against someone like Baylor). I feel barring us losing to the College of Charleston, we will be playing in the championship game in the Charleston Classic. San Francisco.... It's possible, as it's on the road. But, they lost like 6 or 7 players from last season, if I'm correct. I think we come out on top in the Bay.

We'll finally be able to play our style, and I believe it'll lend us to create havoc. I think we're gonna be fine, folks.
 
this team is loaded with talent and they'll be coached up. the early out of conference schedule is much softer than last year's. don't buy all that "we're all freshmen and sophs" stuff. only the mid majors have predominantly four year players.

there's no way we win fewer than 20. 25 is not out of the question.  
 
20-10 and 10-8 in the Big East. This will put us in the NCAA Tournament. If we win at least two in the Big East tourney, we can get a favorable seed in the NCAA's.  
 
this team is loaded with talent and they'll be coached up. the early out of conference schedule is much softer than last year's. don't buy all that "we're all freshmen and sophs" stuff. only the mid majors have predominantly four year players.

there's no way we win fewer than 20. 25 is not out of the question.  
 

No way we win fewer than 20? We won 13 games last year...you really think we jump 7 wins in 1 year? Hope you are right, but I would never bet my money on winning at least 20. Look for them to be this year's USF and win something like 17 games as a solid, not great team. IMO we can't expect 20+ wins until next year.
 
this team is loaded with talent and they'll be coached up. the early out of conference schedule is much softer than last year's. don't buy all that "we're all freshmen and sophs" stuff. only the mid majors have predominantly four year players.

there's no way we win fewer than 20. 25 is not out of the question.  
 

No way we win fewer than 20? We won 13 games last year...you really think we jump 7 wins in 1 year? Hope you are right, but I would never bet my money on winning at least 20. Look for them to be this year's USF and win something like 17 games as a solid, not great team. IMO we can't expect 20+ wins until next year.
 

The 1997-1998 Ohio State Buckeyes were 8-22. The following season they're 27-9 and in the Final Four (they beat us in the Elite Eight). The only player they added of significance was Scoonie Penn (Boban Savovic and Will Dudley was also added that particular season). I know that isn't the generally rule, but I see a similiar situation with our group. A young group that was hammered one season. Gain experience and add important pieces, to go along with valuable holdovers.

I'm still one who believes we only won 13 games was due to youth, and a lack of depth and size. Quite frankly, I think those problems have been fixed. We're returning 5 players (not guys who are exactly chop liver, either) who probably served themselves well due to the time they received last season. I think their time last season will pay off this season. 
 
Detroit -win

@ College of Charleston- win

(away) Murray State/ Auburn -win

(away) TBA Tournament -loss

Holy Cross- win

Florida Gulf Coast -win

South Carolina -win

NJIT- win

@ SanFrancisco -win

(MSG) Fordham- win

(Barclays Center) St. Francis -win

UNC Ashville -win

@ Villanova -win

@ Cincinnati -loss

(MSG) RUTgers -win

(MSG) Georgetown -loss

(MSG) Notre Dame -win

@ DePaul -win

@ Georgetown -loss

(MSG) Yukon -win

@ University of Syracuse -loss

@ Louisville -loss

USF -win

(MSG) Pitts-win

@ Providence College -win

@ Notre Dame- win

(MSG) Marquette-loss
 
this team is loaded with talent and they'll be coached up. the early out of conference schedule is much softer than last year's. don't buy all that "we're all freshmen and sophs" stuff. only the mid majors have predominantly four year players.

there's no way we win fewer than 20. 25 is not out of the question.  
 

No way we win fewer than 20? We won 13 games last year...you really think we jump 7 wins in 1 year? Hope you are right, but I would never bet my money on winning at least 20. Look for them to be this year's USF and win something like 17 games as a solid, not great team. IMO we can't expect 20+ wins until next year.
 

Comparing one year to the next and just saying we won't add 7 wins more because of experience and added depth is way too simplistic... but if we want to play that game, we can- but the fact of the matter is we are not playing duke, ucla and kentucky this year like we did last year and we are replacing those games with basically cupcakes (with the exception of maybe a championship game in Charleston). So the 14 wins last year could have easily could have been 17 wins if those tough games were against easier cupcake opponents... So on an 'adjusted' basis, we are up to 17 wins last year. So.. fast forward to this year: we have more experience and a team with a lot more depth.. so a jump from 17 wins on an adjusted basis last year to 20 years this year is definitely reasonable....
But of course, this way of analyzing it is not the right way to do it, but it's still fun to argue it back and forth!

I have to say, the recent years' the off season for st. john's men's basketball has provided some marvelous entertainment for us (some joy, some grief - but always entertaining)...

here's to hopefully a great season! 
 
this team is loaded with talent and they'll be coached up. the early out of conference schedule is much softer than last year's. don't buy all that "we're all freshmen and sophs" stuff. only the mid majors have predominantly four year players.

there's no way we win fewer than 20. 25 is not out of the question.  
 

No way we win fewer than 20? We won 13 games last year...you really think we jump 7 wins in 1 year? Hope you are right, but I would never bet my money on winning at least 20. Look for them to be this year's USF and win something like 17 games as a solid, not great team. IMO we can't expect 20+ wins until next year.
 

The 1997-1998 Ohio State Buckeyes were 8-22. The following season they're 27-9 and in the Final Four (they beat us in the Elite Eight). The only player they added of significance was Scoonie Penn (Boban Savovic and Will Dudley was also added that particular season). I know that isn't the generally rule, but I see a similiar situation with our group. A young group that was hammered one season. Gain experience and add important pieces, to go along with valuable holdovers.

I'm still one who believes we only won 13 games was due to youth, and a lack of depth and size. Quite frankly, I think those problems have been fixed. We're returning 5 players (not guys who are exactly chop liver, either) who probably served themselves well due to the time they received last season. I think their time last season will pay off this season. 
 

Mindset. Something St. Johns fans still need to work on. Try this. Take away the names - no team names, no player names. We could be talking Michigan State. or UNC. Or Texas. Or Gonzaga. What are your reasonable expectatons for THIS team:

PG: Will have the consensus #52 player out of high school at PG (per RSCI), and Scout.Com's #1 defensive player. Backed by the returning 32 minute a game starter, team leader in assists.

SG: Will have the consensus #42 player in the country returning after being the #3 scoring freshman in D-1, and the #1 scoring freshman in Major Conference D-1, after playing 34 minutes a game as a frosh. Backed by one of the best perimeter shooting JC transfers in the country. Backed by a raw frosh, who's one of the most athletic 2 guards entering college ball.

SF: Will have the #35 consensus player in the country returning. after playing 30 minutes a game as a frosh. Backed by the consensus #73 ranked player in the country.

PF. Will have a 1st team JC All America, a Senior who's played for the Dominican National Team. Backed by the consensus #40 player in the country. Backed by a player being identified by multiple reputable sources as one of the biggest "sleepers" entering D-1 this year.

C. Will have the consensus #69 player in the country, agruabely the best shot blocker in high school basketball. Backed by a first team JC All American, a 30 minute a gme returning starter, who's the 2nd leading returning scorer, and leading returning rebounder.

This is one of the most experienced teams in any major conference - one that returns 5 players who started 19 or more games last year. Returns 4,664 of the 6,425 minutes played last year (73%). It returns 69% of its scoring (1467 of 2129 pts). Returns 58% of its rebounding (633 of 1097). Returns 72% of its assists (249 of 345). While adding 7 new players, including 3 consensus top 70 recruits, a JC all American, A pure shooter, an athletic scorer, and a bull of an athletic PF. Adding 6'9, 6'9, 6'8, 6'7, 6'6, 6'4 and 6'3. So it will have 6 total top 70 recruits, and 2 JC All Americans, and 4 excellent supporting players on scholarship.

The team gets back it's head coach - one has a record of getting his teams to the NCAA tourney 87.5% of the time, and reaching the Sweet 16 or better 71% of those times. They'll be coached by a 4 year NBA assistant, considered one of the top player development coaches in the pros. They'll be coached by a 13 year NBA veteren point guard. They'll be coached by veteren "assistant to the head coach" who is in the Hall of Fame, a 6 time National Coach Of the Year with over 800 career wins.

If you eliminate the mindset "this club can't be very good, they let ME in" - if you were to read that litany about ANY team - how could you NOT project minimum 20 wins? (or as I am, 40-0...till they lose one).... 
 
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