Writing Off The Knicks

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Writing Off the Knicks

A Frustrated Knicks Fan Sends James Dolan an Angry Letter—And Gets One in Return


By JASON GAY Wall Street Journal
Feb. 9, 2015 2:40 p.m. ET

Irving Bierman is a feisty 73, but by his own admission, he’s not pro basketball material. He never was. Growing up, Bierman played all the time—a Brooklyn kid who lived on Ocean Parkway, and later moved with his family to Poughkeepsie, N.Y., where he made the high-school team.

“I was great on the schoolyard,” Bierman said. “One-on-one. Three-on-three.”

Knicks Owner James Dolan to Fan: Root for the Nets

What young Irving loved as much as playing basketball was the city’s team: the New York Knicks. “Harry Gallatin, Sweetwater Clifton…building up to the Knicks of the 60s and 70s with Frazier and DeBusschere and Monroe,” Bierman said, those championship memories still bright.

“The Knicks were on top of the world,” Bierman said. “As was every sports fan in New York.”

This is not the case today. The Knicks are one of the most chronically disappointing teams in sports, a jumble of hubris and expensive mistakes that has evolved into a reliable comic opera. Heading into Monday’s game with Miami, New York possessed a record of 10-41, worst in the NBA.



Like it has for many Knicks fans, this lost season pushed Irving Bierman’s loyalty to the limit. In late January, he wrote an email to the team’s owner, James Dolan. The note was unhappy and direct. Bierman put words in all-caps, like DOWNHILL and DISGRACE, to condemn Dolan’s stewardship, and he urged the owner to unload the team.

“As a Knicks fan for in excess of 60 years, I am utterly embarrassed by your dealings with the Knicks,” Bierman wrote. “Sell them so your fans can at least look forward to growing them in a positive direction.”

As Knicks polemics go, it was agitated but familiar, nothing that isn’t expressed regularly in print and sports-talk radio. Bierman—who sent the email to a variety of email addresses, hoping one might reach Dolan—did not expect a response.

By now, the city of New York knows that Dolan did respond, forcefully and strangely, with an email that began by describing Bierman as a “sad person.” “I am just guessing but I’ll bet your life is a mess and you are a hateful mess,” the Knicks owner wrote in a reply that a Knicks spokesman confirmed to the Journal’s Alex Raskin to be authentic. “What have you ever done that anyone would consider positive or nice?”

Dolan’s email went on to speculate that Bierman made his family “miserable” and an “alcoholic maybe.” He concluded by telling the 73-year-old fan to “start rooting for the Nets because the Knicks don’t want you.”

The note was signed, “Respectfully, James Dolan.”

The exchange made its way from Bierman to his son, Aaron, and then on to Deadspin, which published it Sunday.

Look: Let’s not be fragile here, OK? Life in loud, crowded New York is often a contact sport. Just getting from the sidewalk to the subway to the coffee shop to the office is a recipe for confrontation. If you choose to dish it out, you’re expected to take it. Those are the rules.

Still, Dolan’s reaction may be as deflating as that 10-41 record. Bierman’s grievance would not make a list of the Top 100,000 Most Angry Things written about the team. It was not remotely vulgar. And yet the owner responded with an odd, ad hominem response urging a longtime fan to quit the team.

Besides the mangled public relations, it’s a blown opportunity. The easiest way to soothe an antagonized customer—this is just good business and common sense—is to respond with kindness. Had Dolan sent Bierman a polite reply—fended off his exasperation with a dash of generosity—he’d have likely secured a permanent ally.

Instead it’s another foolish Knicks circus in a season full of them.

Speaking on the telephone Sunday, Bierman sounded amused by his sudden Internet fame, but also ready for a truce. “I’m not getting into a fighting war with the guy,” he said of Dolan, though, “I’d love to get into a room with him one-on-one, nobody around—you know, let’s talk!” He said he did not think Dolan should be disciplined by the league, as some voices have suggested. (NBA commissioner Adam Silver told the New York Post on Monday that Dolan would not be sanctioned, chalking the incident up to New Yorkers being New Yorkers.)

“What he should do is sell the Knicks,” Bierman said. “And buy a Little League team in Long Island.”

Bierman’s son Aaron, a filmmaker who made a documentary about New York playground legend Jack Ryan, said he was proud of his father, and unsurprised that he reached out to the Knicks owner. “He’s a tough old Brooklyn guy,” he said. “Tenacious, doesn’t take no for an answer. When he wants to be heard about something as important as the Knicks, nothing’s going to stop him.”

Basketball was always part of the Bierman household, Aaron Bierman said. He said there’s a photograph of him in his crib as a baby, and above the crib is a large picture of Clyde Frazier. Aaron has his own rich memories of trips to the Garden, the roars for Bernard King and the excitement of the Patrick Ewing era. “It was something that my dad brought to me,” he said.

That’s exactly the kind of connection the Knicks should fight to preserve, not alienate.

“How could you take a franchise that was on top of the world and destroy it?” Irving Bierman asked. “Look: I understand the Garden is a sellout. It’s all corporate money. It’s not people money. People money made the Knicks.”

It’s a reasonable concern, one that merits a better answer. Respectfully.

Write to Jason Gay at Jason.Gay@wsj.com
 
I wonder if you sent something similar to Fred Wilpon if he would tell you to root for the Yankees.......
 
Thanks for posting this Jerseyshorejohnny, I somehow missed this piece of arrogance and cluelessness from the small mind of James Dolan.

There was a time in America when business owners built things from the ground up. Many of those creators of industry actually understood the need to cater to the public and cared enough about their customers to know that their business success was tied directly to how well the public was treated by them.

Sadly this principle has been lost on one James Dolan, who did nothing exceptional in life except to be born to a wealthy father Charles Dolan. Charles handed his irresponsible son the keys to a small empire. As often is the case with something you are given but don't earn James Dolan has operated his empire from an Ivory Tower of incompetence. Given his track record for stupidity I find Mr. Dolan's response here not shocking but truly pathetic nonetheless.
 
News flash: "Jim Dolan is douche."

In other news, unconfirmed reports say Pope Francis attended mass on Sunday.
 
Total hypocrisy that Dolan doesn't get hit with a fine here. Any NBA player or coach would be taken to the woodshed if they put something like this in writing. How an owner gets away unscathed is ridiculous.
 
Went to the game last night. Not much out there for the Knicks. Melo & Amare. Miami shows more and Wade didn't play. Whiteside looks like he will be a beast and I understand he was picked off the scrap pile. First pro game in 15 years or so. Not rushing back but enjoyable.
 
I loved the late '60 to mid '70 Knicks. G.O. cards, the Garden was like 50 cents to get in.

Tolerated the Ewing years, but followed the team, mostly on the tube.

Followed the Anuka (sp?) Brown for the legal side. Isaiah Thomas came off real bad. But I saw a video of Dolan's deposition and he was a Total Jerk. Slumped in his chair, Crumpled clothes. Chewing gum. Crappy answers. Bored to be there. Talking back to the lawyers. Total disgrace. embarrassment to Charles Dolan.

Really an embarrassment to his directors, shareholders and company representatives. I am a little surprised he got Phil Jackson to take the job. Phil Jackson has more class and dignity than Jim Dolan who has none. $$$$$

A classic example of being born on third base but thinking you hit a triple.
 
I've been out in California for 16 years now, and the Warriors are great, so it should be easy for me to disavow being a Knick fan. I just can't do it, though, regardless of how tough Dolan is making it for me.

But I'll probably need him to resign, get fired, or die in the next couple seasons or I'll be making the switch.
 
Dolan says he has been sober for 21 years. Doubtful he could have been any more of a jerk while he was an alcoholic. Doubtful Knicks could have been any worse off during the Dolan era if he would have remained a drunk.
 
As the owner, he probably should have worded his argument better. But on the other hand, how would you feel if you were constantly being told how to do your job, mostly by people who have no business criticizing you at all.

If you are going to dish it out, you have to be able to take it too!
 
As the owner, he probably should have worded his argument better. But on the other hand, how would you feel if you were constantly being told how to do your job, mostly by people who have no business criticizing you at all.

If you are going to dish it out, you have to be able to take it too!

Who has no business criticizing ??

And congrats you are the first person on this earth I've seen take dolans side
 
As the owner, he probably should have worded his argument better. But on the other hand, how would you feel if you were constantly being told how to do your job, mostly by people who have no business criticizing you at all.

If you are going to dish it out, you have to be able to take it too!

I agree that the person that wrote the email to Dolan deserved an email back in the same tone he sent one in, but Dolan could've used a little better judgement. Probably should've left out the alcoholic part and bashing the guys life.
 
As the owner, he probably should have worded his argument better. But on the other hand, how would you feel if you were constantly being told how to do your job, mostly by people who have no business criticizing you at all.

If you are going to dish it out, you have to be able to take it too!

I agree that the person that wrote the email to Dolan deserved an email back in the same tone he sent one in, but Dolan could've used a little better judgement. Probably should've left out the alcoholic part and bashing the guys life.

Totally inappropriate response to a fan.
 
As the owner, he probably should have worded his argument better. But on the other hand, how would you feel if you were constantly being told how to do your job, mostly by people who have no business criticizing you at all.

If you are going to dish it out, you have to be able to take it too!
I know you feel Lavin is above criticism but James Dolan? Guess ISIS is off the table too, huh?
 
James Dolan is a genius. He has re-proven the theorem that the NBA can thrive with a horrible franchise in New York. He managed to stumble into a great hire in Donnie Walsh, who unraveled the Isaiah Thomas salary cap mess and put the team on the right path. Then he drove Walsh form New York.

Dolan managed to make the Knicks irrelevant in NYC. Not an easy task. At least Spike Lee is still in the building.
 
Complete this sentence -
Dolan has done for the Knicks, like (Blank) has done for SJU
 
Dolan says he has been sober for 21 years. Doubtful he could have been any more of a jerk while he was an alcoholic. Doubtful Knicks could have been any worse off during the Dolan era if he would have remained a drunk.

One of the hospitalized patients I interviewed for a research study said it best "There is no problem so bad that drugs and alcohol can't make it worse."
 
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