Why UConn can do, St. John's can not do

The title of this thread is, "Why UConn can do, St. John's can not do." Reading this grammatical masterpiece is the proverbial salt in the wound.
 
This thread is the perfect example of why moderators get a raw deal. Not one mod even suggested deleting or merging a redundant, uninformed, nails to a chalkboard worthy, and agitating (by design of course) thread like this one because it breaks no site rules.

Threads like this however do break balls.

I find this thread funny! Try saying "Why U Conn van do, we no can do" real fast after 3 shots of whiskey with beer chasers!
 
uconn has won four of the last 16 ncaa tournaments.
their program is in another universe than ours.

they have great facilities, all americans and national titles

we have Carnesecca arena, first round big east tournament exits, and we are trying to convince phil greene not to transfer.

it is comparing day and night

Come on now Hit! Carnesseca has old world charm that that plastic coated Gampel will never have. You sound like just another disgruntled team manager like Jayon1 when you come down on alma mater! I will agree with you 100% on the Phil Greene dilemma in that if this incompetent staff is trying to retain the one player that should transfer, we have Hit (pardon the pun) a new low!
BTW, is it safe to say the Maven will not be buying Lav any more cigars?
 
uconn has won four of the last 16 ncaa tournaments.
their program is in another universe than ours.

they have great facilities, all americans and national titles

we have Carnesecca arena, first round big east tournament exits, and we are trying to convince phil greene not to transfer.

it is comparing day and night

Come on now Hit! Carnesseca has old world charm that that plastic coated Gampel will never have. You sound like just another disgruntled team manager like Jayon1 when you come down on alma mater! I will agree with you 100% on the Phil Greene dilemma in that if this incompetent staff is trying to retain the one player that should transfer, we have Hit (pardon the pun) a new low!
BTW, is it safe to say the Maven will not be buying Lav any more cigars?

The old world charm of a sweaty high school gym
 
The difference between us??

"@AdamZagoria: Calhoun: "I came here in 1986 & I always wanted us to be not just a team but a program. We're a program. This is 4 national championships."

SJU hasn't hired a program building-type coach to this point. We've gotten a lot of fluff in Jarvis and Lavin. We guy a nice guy in Norm who didn't have the coaching chops.
 
A more relevant title for this thread would be "What Seton Hall Can Do, St John's Can't Do." We weren't much better than them this year--barely beat them in each game, they beat Xavier twice, then showed up to beat Nova in the BET. And now, while we hold our breath over Delarosa, they have the #10 recruiting class coming in for 2014 and are showing a scary ability to get top-rated NY/NJ kids.
 
A more relevant title for this thread would be "What Seton Hall Can Do, St John's Can't Do." We weren't much better than them this year--barely beat them in each game, they beat Xavier twice, then showed up to beat Nova in the BET. And now, while we hold our breath over Delarosa, they have the #10 recruiting class coming in for 2014 and are showing a scary ability to get top-rated NY/NJ kids.

If top 10 recruiting classes automatically translated to winning we'd be in a lot better shape...
 
A more relevant title for this thread would be "What Seton Hall Can Do, St John's Can't Do." We weren't much better than them this year--barely beat them in each game, they beat Xavier twice, then showed up to beat Nova in the BET. And now, while we hold our breath over Delarosa, they have the #10 recruiting class coming in for 2014 and are showing a scary ability to get top-rated NY/NJ kids.

I have to agree with this. Whenever I brought this up, I would usually get attacked. I know the Morton thing smells funny but at least their staff has been heavily involved with many recruits. The other thing cited is that they have playing time, so do we.
 
UConn didnt turn into UConn overnight. It was a gradual transformation. It started with an NIT then a Big East title...they lost a bunch of times in the Final 8 to UNC, Duke and UCLA...they were upset twice in the sweet 16 vs. Florida and Miss. State when they were the best remaining team in the region those years. Great players went through UConn and didnt make the Final 4 - Ray Allen, Donyell,....players who if we had we would be mentioning with Mullin and Berry.

My point is Calhoun did not snap his fingers and this happened overnight...there were a lot of obstacles they had to pass before the program became established as one of the best....this is not a one year fix at SJU...this is a long term rebuilding project....even if we dont reach UConn's status, which i dont think we will, it will take a long term rebuilding effort to turn this ship around. There is too much dysfunction at SJU to right the ship immediately. We need to have a good recruiting class every year, a good Xs and Os coach, low # of players leaving to transfer....if we build this program the fans will come and MSG will be sold out then but until then we will continue to get mid major attendance. The commitment from the university and athletic department would also be nice but that is really pushing it i know....
 
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