Miami was missing 1 of their starters when they lost to Indiana State, Cuse was missing Southerland when Nova beat them and the game was away where Cuse is a totally different team. There was some stat I saw that showed Cuse basically almost never has to play away games. That's a HUGE advantage when you have 30,000 fans on your side each game. The second they leave their comfy confines, they get shook at times. They are much more beatable away from home as with most teams. Their L'Ville win was also at home. Still great wins obviously but let's not forget L'Ville fell back to like #12 down from like #5 shortly after. Teams like Miami are totally different now than they were early on. If Miami played ISU now they would win by 20+. Saying otherwise ignores the chemistry teams build and their experience. In the same way I think Miami would kill ISU now, I also think we would beat Asheville by 20 if we played them full strength at home tomorrow. I'm not talking RPI I'm talking quality wins listed and you can't take #14 and #20 away from us. We earned it and the #14 upset was away from home unlike Nova.
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Miami was missing 1 of their starters when they lost to Indiana State, Cuse was missing Southerland when Nova beat them and the game was away where Cuse is a totally different team. There was some stat I saw that showed Cuse basically almost never has to play away games. That's a HUGE advantage when you have 30,000 fans on your side each game. The second they leave their comfy confines, they get shook at times. They are much more beatable away from home as with most teams. Their L'Ville win was also at home. Still great wins obviously but let's not forget L'Ville fell back to like #12 down from like #5 shortly after. Teams like Miami are totally different now than they were early on. If Miami played ISU now they would win by 20+. Saying otherwise ignores the chemistry teams build and their experience. In the same way I think Miami would kill ISU now, I also think we would beat Asheville by 20 if we played them full strength at home tomorrow. I'm not talking RPI I'm talking quality wins listed and you can't take #14 and #20 away from us. We earned it and the #14 upset was away from home unlike Nova.
Yes, but taking into consideration both were at home and Cuse was missing a main starter who is a game changer it definitely makes it seem a bit less impressive. It's not a big asterisk, but an asterisk nonetheless. If Nova can lose most of their final games and we add Pitt and Marquette ranked wins to our resume, I think 4 ranked wins vs. 2 top 10's is better. Anyone can beat a top 10 team one lucky day i.e. Providence a few years back, TCU this year, etc. But it's harder to consistently beat ranked teams IMO.
Nova is a very good team though and as much as I hate that they may end up being the reason we are left out this year, it's good to see them doing well as a new conference mate. They are the 2nd team after G'Town that will really need to do some heavy lifting to make us a legit conference, then comes Marquette and the others.
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For comparison, as of Thursday:
SJU has wins over RPI Nos. 34, 41, 44, 63 and 94. They just miss a top 100 win with one against 101.
Nova has wins over R{I No.s 6, 8, 34 57, 84 and 94
SJU's bad losses are to 104, 157 and 183. That 104 could go away.
Nova's bad losses are to 252. The only other possibility outside the top 100 could be two to Providence if they tank but it is very unlikely.
Any win the rest of the way for either team is a top 100 win EXCEPT for Seton Hall for Nova. A loss to them would be a bad loss.
SJU has wins over RPI Nos. 34, 41, 44, 63 and 94. They just miss a top 100 win with one against 101.
Nova has wins over R{I No.s 6, 8, 34 57, 84 and 94
SJU's bad losses are to 104, 157 and 183. That 104 could go away.
Nova's bad losses are to 252. The only other possibility outside the top 100 could be two to Providence if they tank but it is very unlikely.
Any win the rest of the way for either team is a top 100 win EXCEPT for Seton Hall for Nova. A loss to them would be a bad loss.
Yeah no doubt you remember how exciting it was watching California Angel games on your black and white RCA Console on Long Island in 1967. Of course I was just a kid but I remember being pissed they kept breaking into the Officer Joe Bolton show with live satellite updates of the score. One minute Officer Joe was introducing another exciting adventure of Go Go Gophers and the next thing they were cutting in live to up date the Angels games. What made it really exciting was that they were using technology that hadn't even been invented yet.
Officer Joe was I think on ESPN3, do I recall that correctly? Or was he just available on your IPAD. Anyway, I do recall that ESPN 3 was channel 604 on the solar powered VIOS satellite dish we had back in 1967, when you were watching those exciting Angel games on Long Island on your black and white RCA Console that you probably got at Gertze's. Was that the Gertz on Jericho turnpike in Syosset or did you get that on Gertz dot com. I'm guessing on line, because that's where they had the special electronics department where you could totally get the RCA Console that broadcast Angel games on on Long Island in 1967, which were totally worth watching because they were so exciting, what with the inning by inning updates and so on.
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Wow.. He lives. Actually, in 1967, I believe the Game of the week carried the AL games, and certainly was providing blow by blow accounts of the pennant race, as were the local Mets and Yankee broadcasts, back in the days where all weekend games were broadcast on WOR and WPIX. I know by your age you must remember.
Gee, your back, how pleasant! I heard you've purchased a website so you could proffer your vast knowledge of college sports. Well I hope you enjoy your stay here. Have a safe trip home.
Actually I was a tad of a Tiger fan in 1967. The 67 pennant race was the first disappointment of my life that I remember vividly - fortunately I was not yet cognizant when mater declined me the breast. I recall distinctly waiting for the newspaper to arrive the next day to find out the score of the Tiger game, which was otherwise unavailable to me, the nightly news being past my bedtime. I remember bursting into tears when I read the score and wondering why the Angels just didn't let them win.
Regarding your laughable assertion of inning by inning updates, how clever it was of the Yankee broadcast team -- and the Yankees being 20 games out of first place on the last day of the season that game would surely have been aired; attendance at Yankee Stadium that day was 6500, so fan interest was clearly enormous - to have been able to give updates on games that were occuring in the future. See, on October 1 the Yankees played a day game that lasted 2 hours. Whereas Detroit played a double header, which event lasted more than 6.
Ho-lee Cow! Either Phil Rizzuto had him some ESP or you're lying again. Which do you think is more likely.
Regarding the website, it was for the record gifted to me by an admirer.
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Officer Joe was I think on ESPN3, do I recall that correctly? Or was he just available on your IPAD. Anyway, I do recall that ESPN 3 was channel 604 on the solar powered VIOS satellite dish we had back in 1967, when you were watching those exciting Angel games on Long Island on your black and white RCA Console that you probably got at Gertze's. Was that the Gertz on Jericho turnpike in Syosset or did you get that on Gertz dot com. I'm guessing on line, because that's where they had the special electronics department where you could totally get the RCA Console that broadcast Angel games on on Long Island in 1967, which were totally worth watching because they were so exciting, what with the inning by inning updates and so on.
Maybe he bought it at Gertz' in Jamaica. After all it is closer to St. John's.
Officer Joe was I think on ESPN3, do I recall that correctly? Or was he just available on your IPAD. Anyway, I do recall that ESPN 3 was channel 604 on the solar powered VIOS satellite dish we had back in 1967, when you were watching those exciting Angel games on Long Island on your black and white RCA Console that you probably got at Gertze's. Was that the Gertz on Jericho turnpike in Syosset or did you get that on Gertz dot com. I'm guessing on line, because that's where they had the special electronics department where you could totally get the RCA Console that broadcast Angel games on on Long Island in 1967, which were totally worth watching because they were so exciting, what with the inning by inning updates and so on.
Maybe he bought it at Gertz' in Jamaica. After all it is closer to St. John's.
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Today's game is why I didn't want to enter into this conversation. At this point, an NCAA bid would require a minor miracle. I was hoping for a reasonable facsimile of branch to show up, and instead we got about a dozen tentative minutes. Hopefully they win one or two more games between now and NIT bid time, and we regroup by then.
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You have some good points some of the time(Creighton for example) but they are normally overshadowed by your need to overstate things for shock value, attention or some unknown reason. I would agree that Nova appears to be a tournament worthy team at this point, however, they certainly are not a lock. They will be a slight fave against the Hall but they certainly can lose that game. If they lose then they will most likely lose their next two since they have a very small chance of winning at Pitt. Winning against Georgetown will also be very difficult obviously. I am not saying they will, but they certainly can lose their last 3 games and depending on their matchup lose their first game in the BET. They would not be a tourney team at that point. Additionally, we don't need them to lose because the committee does not limit the teams that make it from each conference. The only way we would need them to lose is if the last at large bid actually came down to a choice between Nova and SJU which is very unlikely.