What would help Lavin now...

[room112]

I love how Calhoun is being considered. After Jarvis and the scandal, the University's goal was run a clean program first, winning second. Why would that change now? Are people happy with winning a title only to have it wiped out a few years later?

Considered by whom? A few posters?

Yes, the fact that even posters on this site are considering him, a coach coming off of serious sanctions at his former school, is telling.

With all due respect, I think the only thing it's telling is that a few posters are considering him.

With all due respect, you're totally missing my point. Me or you have any idea what the administration (or lack there of) is thinking at this point, so that's speculation.

 

[Jack Williams]

Who quickly would Obekpa return if Calhoun was hired? 10 minutes?

Marillac's official stance: Hire Calhoun. Five year deal with an exit strategy.

+1
We need someone who can come in and stem the bleeding fast. His age is a benefit-he'll be looking to leave in 5 years and won't mind paving the way for someone new. He'll be all over TV this weekend as well, with UConn.

What bleeding? Sampson decided to go pro , and Obepka probably didnt like the lack of playing time and decided to transfer. My guess is Lavin has a few players ready to be signed April 17th. If not, then we are in trouble.

Yea, let's pretend this is why he left...

I guess i'm missing something, why do you think he left?

He hates Lavin. If playing time was his burning desire he would've stayed because he'll be playing 40MPG next year if he were on St. John's. Him and Lavin don't see eye to eye and ultimately that's why I think he left St. John's.

 

[austour]

I love how Calhoun is being considered. After Jarvis and the scandal, the University's goal was run a clean program first, winning second. Why would that change now? Are people happy with winning a title only to have it wiped out a few years later?

Considered by whom? A few posters?

Yes, the fact that even posters on this site are considering him, a coach coming off of serious sanctions at his former school, is telling.

With all due respect, I think the only thing it's telling is that a few posters are considering him.

With all due respect, you're totally missing my point. Me or you have any idea what the administration (or lack there of) is thinking at this point, so that's speculation.

Room, you got to let those 6 long years in purgatory go. It wasn't Stutterin' Jims fault that you were just as likely to find a Husky on a police blotter as at the pub, surely more than you'd find them in class. I'm sure he'd be a great ambassador for STJ, and besides neither your nor I attended there anyway. If he's good enough for the alums he should be good enough for us.

PS - He did seem happier and healthier during this year's NCAA coverage. Maybe he's turned over a new leaf.

 

[Section3]

Can anyone confirm that Lavin has even been in NYCity over the past several days or had any team meeting(s)?

campus officials called him to come back on Wednesday night.

Huh?

he was called back to NY on wednesday night by campus officials

Rumor? Or factual? If factual, who are the "campus officials?"

You mean the guys who "wand" us when we enter CA?

 

[stjohnnie75]

What would help now is if the admin proved to the fans that they had at least some brains and get rid of Lavin now.
The longer they wait, the more difficult it will be to secure a quality coach and give that coach time to nab recruits for both 14 and 15.
This is really a no brainer.

While I might phrase it differently and I don't like to attack the school, players or staff but the way this has played out EVERY time since LC, there really is no other conclusion. The longer this drags out, the worse for everyone. Act quickly and decisively and move on to better things. A good coach has something to work with in the cast remaining, and might even consider the scholarships a luxury while there is still a spring signing period available. Lavin could move on without having to get roasted in the media which he surely will the longer this drags out. If it drags out on the other hand we very likely will have more defections. Anyone who has paid attention on redmen.com the past 15+ years knows that I have never tried to come off as "in the know" but I do know this: There is other stuff that has happened that has not been made public that no fan would be happy with, and there are other key players definitely exploring options. Act quickly and they do have reason to stay.

i agree with Paul.
it would be beneficial to cut ties now rather than wait another year as we all know the ending in a year from now will be worse than it already is at this point.
If there are no changes made, we havent seen the last of the players asking for releases.

Sounds like the Fran days when players and their relatives were lined out the athletic dept. door waiting to speak with the AD.

 

[room112]

I love how Calhoun is being considered. After Jarvis and the scandal, the University's goal was run a clean program first, winning second. Why would that change now? Are people happy with winning a title only to have it wiped out a few years later?

Considered by whom? A few posters?

Yes, the fact that even posters on this site are considering him, a coach coming off of serious sanctions at his former school, is telling.

With all due respect, I think the only thing it's telling is that a few posters are considering him.

With all due respect, you're totally missing my point. Me or you have any idea what the administration (or lack there of) is thinking at this point, so that's speculation.

Room, you got to let those 6 long years in purgatory go. It wasn't Stutterin' Jims fault that you were just as likely to find a Husky on a police blotter as at the pub, surely more than you'd find them in class. I'm sure he'd be a great ambassador for STJ, and besides neither your nor I attended there anyway. If he's good enough for the alums he should be good enough for us.

PS - He did seem happier and healthier during this year's NCAA coverage. Maybe he's turned over a new leaf.

Are the 6 years in purgatory you're referring to, the 6 years I spent at UConn (undergrad and masters) lol or was it just a coincidence lol. I am a UConn grad, and have developed a hatred for the program over the years. It's the only show in town for Connecticut residents, they'll support blindly.

 

[Knight2]

Jeff Van Gundy 52 yrs old. No skeletons.

 

[Andrew]

What would help now is if the admin proved to the fans that they had at least some brains and get rid of Lavin now.
The longer they wait, the more difficult it will be to secure a quality coach and give that coach time to nab recruits for both 14 and 15.
This is really a no brainer.

While I might phrase it differently and I don't like to attack the school, players or staff but the way this has played out EVERY time since LC, there really is no other conclusion. The longer this drags out, the worse for everyone. Act quickly and decisively and move on to better things. A good coach has something to work with in the cast remaining, and might even consider the scholarships a luxury while there is still a spring signing period available. Lavin could move on without having to get roasted in the media which he surely will the longer this drags out. If it drags out on the other hand we very likely will have more defections. Anyone who has paid attention on redmen.com the past 15+ years knows that I have never tried to come off as "in the know" but I do know this: There is other stuff that has happened that has not been made public that no fan would be happy with, and there are other key players definitely exploring options. Act quickly and they do have reason to stay.

Paul, thanks for your insight and perspective.

I think another factor that will weigh heavily on the administration's mind is the reality that college enrollment is going down. St. John's, like just about every other university and college in the country, will have a difficult time meeting it's enrollment targets over the next few years. I'm sure this will be considered if the administration decides to pull the plug on Lavin and hire a new coach. I'm not implying that lower enrollment will affect the basketball program, but it will cause St. John's to look hard a all of it's expenses in light of declining income.

I know student attendance at games is low but if you cut back on the basketball team, I think things only get worse for SJU.

 

[bamafan]

Can anyone confirm that Lavin has even been in NYCity over the past several days or had any team meeting(s)?

campus officials called him to come back on Wednesday night.

Huh?

he was called back to NY on wednesday night by campus officials

Rumor? Or factual? If factual, who are the "campus officials?"

You mean the guys who "wand" us when we enter CA?

Good one, you beat me to it, was thinking the same thing. Maybe with all this rain there was a leak in his office and some of his suits and shoes were damaged.

 

[monte]

Haven't read all the posts in this thread, so forgive me if I'm repeating what's already been said, but I am assuming that Lavin is making himself scarce until the point that he has something positive(IE Thomas, Adonis, etc) to report. Can't wait to hear Lavin tout the DeLarosa bros as our version of the "twin towers" .

 

[rcatalano]

He is somewhere in deep thought trying to figure out how he is going to put a positive spin on what has transpired over the last month regarding the state of SJU basketball. Be patient, this should be good!!!!!!!

 

[Section3]

Haven't read all the posts in this thread, so forgive me if I'm repeating what's already been said, but I am assuming that Lavin is making himself scarce until the point that he has something positive(IE Thomas, Adonis, etc) to report. Can't wait to hear Lavin tout the DeLarosa bros as our version of the "twin towers" .

Hopefully he credits you with having handed him this one

 

[ccnobz]

This may help:

http://nypost.com/2014/04/04/westchester-big-man-thomas-could-join-red-storm/

 

[usguard]

I love how Calhoun is being considered. After Jarvis and the scandal, the University's goal was run a clean program first, winning second. Why would that change now? Are people happy with winning a title only to have it wiped out a few years later?

Considered by whom? A few posters?

Yes, the fact that even posters on this site are considering him, a coach coming off of serious sanctions at his former school, is telling.

With all due respect, I think the only thing it's telling is that a few posters are considering him.

With all due respect, you're totally missing my point. Me or you have any idea what the administration (or lack there of) is thinking at this point, so that's speculation.

Room, you got to let those 6 long years in purgatory go. It wasn't Stutterin' Jims fault that you were just as likely to find a Husky on a police blotter as at the pub, surely more than you'd find them in class. I'm sure he'd be a great ambassador for STJ, and besides neither your nor I attended there anyway. If he's good enough for the alums he should be good enough for us.

PS - He did seem happier and healthier during this year's NCAA coverage. Maybe he's turned over a new leaf.

Perhaps I am of the few on this board who still has faith in Lavin I am willing as said before to wait until the end of 2015 but think we will be better each yr from today Many feel Obekpa will be really missed I for one say he was a one dimentional player and staff can fill the team with a player with better #s

 

[Knight2]

I saw a brief item claiming St. John's calling for a press conference this Tuesday. Can anyone else confirm that? It was associated with Zagsblog.

 

[mkras99]

I saw a brief item claiming St. John's calling for a press conference this Tuesday. Can anyone else confirm that? It was associated with Zagsblog.

Where'd you see that? Link?

 

[qcredman]

I saw a brief item claiming St. John's calling for a press conference this Tuesday. Can anyone else confirm that? It was associated with Zagsblog.

If so Post article above (thanks ccnobz) says that Adonis Delarosa has moved his announcement up to next Tuesday. Thomas and Delarosa would help mitigate some of our pain.

 

[ras]

I saw a brief item claiming St. John's calling for a press conference this Tuesday. Can anyone else confirm that? It was associated with Zagsblog.

If so Post article above (thanks ccnobz) says that Adonis Delarosa has moved his announcement up to next Tuesday. Thomas and Delarosa would help mitigate some of our pain.

Only if we don't loose anyone else.

 

[ccnobz]

I saw a brief item claiming St. John's calling for a press conference this Tuesday. Can anyone else confirm that? It was associated with Zagsblog.

If so Post article above (thanks ccnobz) says that Adonis Delarosa has moved his announcement up to next Tuesday. Thomas and Delarosa would help mitigate some of our pain.

Only if we don't loose anyone else.

If the brothers suit up and we land Thomas along with C Jones we seem to have enough depth up front, and we have a ALL- BE backcourt. I'll take my chances.

 

[Knight2]

Did a google search on "Zagsblog St. John's".

St. John's | ZagsBlog.com
zagsblog.com/category/st-johns/
1 day ago - St. John's will hold an 11 a.m. press conference on Tuesday.