All fair points. Neptune had his guys playing with urgency from the jump. Their defense packed it but I thought we settled on atleast 10 of those attempts. Villanova deserved to win. Grabbing 3 key offensive rebounds in the final minutes.
@Villanova, Wed., Feb. 12 , 6p, FS-1
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Larry Wright
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Something seems to be wrong with Zuby? Not sure if injured or has been sick but forget how poorly he has played, the concerning thing for me is why does he keep falling down? Like every third play he is on the ground.
The last part would have spoiled the tasteDead Rabbit in Boiling Pot at Section9's house don't worry it's just a warning from ESPKEN. He's too good of a guy to actually do anything worse than kill a rabbit and boil it on your stove and shave the word Neptune on it's dead dangling body
SJUDave
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his worst game in a SJU uniform...you have to find ways to get him the ball even when the defense is denying...on Zuby's end, and this has been his issue all year, he doesn't command/ask/set himself up enough to get the ball - two way street. SJU needs Zuby, in order to be successful this season. Zuby played like a november sophomore Zuby. Gotta bounce back
Good thing I have a Men in Black memory erase device, or I'd have quit following this team long ago.
SJUDave
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Vince comes into the game and poor outcomes seemingly follow, directly or indirectly. He's had an issue rebounding, dribbling and defending. Very disappointing.
16 straight double figure scoring games for zuby prior to last night. Was also his first game all season where he didn’t shoot a FT. I think hell be alright.
SJUDave
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RJ's defense on the last play was really bad. Poplar drives and RJ is right there to close him off and lets him go. Then on the kick and swing RJ is in the wrong spot, 10 feet off Perkins, late to close. For as good as he's been defensively and overall this year, this was just a really poor and costly mental lapse. Unfortunate.
SJUDave
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Prey, Glover, Vince having 4 of the team's 13 turnovers in 15 total minutes can't be overstated obviously how big of a problem it is. The bench is used sparingly, but when they're on the floor they can't be such liabilities. Tough and frustrating loss, obviously we wiil always look for reasons why they lost...but the bench is a big concern.
moved his pivot foot at least twice
Not sure why Prey is taking three 3s. I just sighed three times in a row when watching that.
Memo to Rick: Three point misses often lead to long rebounds and boxing out is difficult when a rebound is 15 or more +/- feet away from the basket. We lost because our three point defense let us down.
For about 15 games now our hallmark was rebounding, especially offensive rebounding, lights-out defense, shot clock violations and turnovers.
Zuby is too good, he will re-focus and lead this team, by example, back to those hallmark traits. If so, another win streak awaits.
[Almost every team we play seems to make a well-guarded, desperation heave at the very end of the shot clock against us, we must lead the country in that odd category; lots of times it doesn't mean anything, tonight it hurt us].
For about 15 games now our hallmark was rebounding, especially offensive rebounding, lights-out defense, shot clock violations and turnovers.
Zuby is too good, he will re-focus and lead this team, by example, back to those hallmark traits. If so, another win streak awaits.
[Almost every team we play seems to make a well-guarded, desperation heave at the very end of the shot clock against us, we must lead the country in that odd category; lots of times it doesn't mean anything, tonight it hurt us].
Larry Wright
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Prey is 1for his last 12 shooting anything.
Great defensively, but he's behind where Zuby was last year offensively.
You make your own luck, I pointed out during the game, Brickus, I believe, made a very long 3 with 2 seconds on the shot clock in which Wilcher sat a good 3 feet away watching him line the shot up and step into it.
A bit later, same type scenario, Scott is on Dixon and instead of keeping his feet and making Dixon shoot deep against the shot clock with a hand in his face, Scott bites on a pump fake, let’s Dixon duck under and get a clean look at the basket.
Finally, I pointed out in real-time, the absolute inexplicable, to me, half assed effort Luis put into the Perkins 3 that won it.
Obviously, as a player, you don’t lament players putting in tough shots, you do your utmost to influence the outcome. I thought last night was a step back for the Johnnies, not AT ALL because of the result but because they brought their C- game. Hopefully Sunday will prove it to be a one off.
Silly Donovan
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Agree, also without Smith and a faster pace we didn’t get off as many shots as we usually get off to compensate for our poor shooting percentage. To Neptunes credit, realizing that, he slowed the game down and made it a half court game.
One comment on the “would you have signed up for this” rationale. Personally, I don’t sign up for anything. I see a team play and gauge my expectations as the season progresses. The hope, expectation, is that a team comes together, develops, grows and as much as humanly possible, realizes their potential. The final step is taking stock when the season ends.
That determination is very much an evolutionary process, not a static measurement against a predetermined yardstick.
This team is a perfect example of that process and the evolution of possibilities.
That determination is very much an evolutionary process, not a static measurement against a predetermined yardstick.
This team is a perfect example of that process and the evolution of possibilities.
They are keying on him and boxing him out sometimes with two defenders
Yep
They sre packing the paint. Taking Zuby out of game. And keeping him off boards so no offensive put backs. Stop his rebounding and cut off his put backs