Val Ackerman State of BE Commentary

[rehobie]

I believe when North Carolina, Clemson and FSU decide to move on to stronger conferences for football money the ACC will collapse. Notre Dame will have scheduling problems and seek out power teams for big dollars and maintain their brand.
Having no conference connections they will return to the Big East for basketball and other sports which was workable in the past.

 

[dk423]

I believe when North Carolina, Clemson and FSU decide to move on to stronger conferences for football money the ACC will collapse. Notre Dame will have scheduling problems and seek out power teams for big dollars and maintain their brand.
Having no conference connections they will return to the Big East for basketball and other sports which was workable in the past.

Agreed. ACC is a ticking time bomb. As soon as a school shows they can get out of the GOR, I think the SEC/Big 10 is pouncing on all of the top schools. Big 12 will look a whole lot more appealing to Louisville, Pittsburgh and Syracuse then. UCONN would be crazy to leave us for the ACC by that point.

Notre Dame is a good call. We can give them the best of both worlds -- they can keep their "independent" status (which is more important to them than I can understand), play with more natural rivals in an even better geographical situation than they have now, and still play in either the Big 10 or SEC.

If we end up with ND, Wake and BC, that would be a huge win.

 

[ADORAZ]

I've read ND boosters are greatly in favor of remaining Independent in football. I think most likely they'll join the Big Ten for everything outside of football and have a scheduling agreement (exactly what they're currently doing with ACC), but Big East could be an option.

ACC will definitely be poached by the SEC and Big Ten. Then it's a matter of whether the Big 12 can poach from them, which will likely be the case. Once that happens the ACC will become the AAC.

 

[otis]

I believe when North Carolina, Clemson and FSU decide to move on to stronger conferences for football money the ACC will collapse. Notre Dame will have scheduling problems and seek out power teams for big dollars and maintain their brand.
Having no conference connections they will return to the Big East for basketball and other sports which was workable in the past.

IMO when the ACC shake up occurs the remain ACC teams would still have a sufficient number to be pretty good (not great) conference: The ACC leftovers will still field FBS teams albeit not of SEC, B12, or BiG quality but better than the AAC and should be able to get a football broadcast contract

The ACC Leftover Conference may look like the follow which from a FBS perspective better than becoming a football independent and seeking membership in the Big East.

Duke
Loiusville
Pitts
Syracuse
Wake Forest
Boston College
SMU
Cal
Sanford
Georgia Texh
NC State
UConn
————-
Excluding
Clemson
UVA
UMiami
UNC
Florida State

 

[ADORAZ]

IMO when the ACC shake up occurs the remain ACC teams would still have a sufficient number to be pretty good (not great) conference: The ACC leftovers will still field FBS teams albeit not of SEC, B12, or BiG quality but better than the AAC and should be able to get a football broadcast contract

The ACC Leftover Conference may look like the follow which from a FBS perspective better than becoming a football independent and seeking membership in the Big East.

Duke
Loiusville
Pitts
Syracuse
Wake Forest
Boston College
SMU
Cal
Sanford
Georgia Texh
NC State
UConn
————-
Excluding
Clemson
UVA
UMiami
UNC
Florida State

It'll look that way for roughly 5 minutes until the Big 12 raids the remaining biggest brands. The alternative is the ACC would raid the Big 12 but I don't think their new TV contract would come close.

We just saw Pac 12 teams choose the Big 12 over ACC. ACC picked up the Pac 12 and AAC schools that the Big 12 didn't want, that says everything about where they're headed.

 

[dk423]

The ACC Leftover Conference may look like the follow which from a FBS perspective better than becoming a football independent and seeking membership in the Big East.

Duke
Loiusville
Pitts
Syracuse
Wake Forest
Boston College
SMU
Cal
Sanford
Georgia Texh
NC State
UConn
————-
Excluding
Clemson
UVA
UMiami
UNC
Florida State

This is fair. I would be certain that NC State will also be going to the SEC or Big Ten (they're part of that magnificent 7 group).

In 2030, the Big 12 contract is up. Can they get a TV deal that is much more than the ACC's (which runs through 2036!)? If it is, that's where you can see Pittsburgh, Syracuse and Louisville all head to the exits. They'll have old Big East schools Cincy and West Virginia waiting for them. And, that likely makes UCONN leaving for the ACC a much more difficult decision.

If the ACC ends up losing all 7 schools (Clemson, UVA, Va Tech, Miami, UNC, Florida State, NC State) plus Pittsburgh, Syracuse and Louisville, I am not entirely sure the conference survives. Does Duke, Georgia Tech, Cal and Stanford try to join the Big Ten in a SMU-like arrangement where they get no pay outs?

Notre Dame's $$$ is not really that contingent on the ACC. Maybe the Big East can strike a TV deal that can go up as the conference expands with FBS-only schools (i.e. only major-conference schools) and the money is negligible for them.

 

[SJU85]

I've read ND boosters are greatly in favor of remaining Independent in football. I think most likely they'll join the Big Ten for everything outside of football and have a scheduling agreement (exactly what they're currently doing with ACC), but Big East could be an option.

ACC will definitely be poached by the SEC and Big Ten. Then it's a matter of whether the Big 12 can poach from them, which will likely be the case. Once that happens the ACC will become the AAC.

The closest ND will ever get to not being an independent in football is their existing deal with the ACC. Becoming a full fledge member in a conference is a non-starter for all (school administration and boosters). For ND, it makes sense financially (TV and radio proceeds with their own rights and, don't piss of the boosters who donate) and traditionally.