U of MIami-Free tuition for illegals

[beast of the east]

While what you say is true, there are SJU board members who are advocating offering admission and assistance to those students who have a better success quotient. To date, with an abysmal 6 year graduation rate, many disadvantaged but academically unqualified students have been laid to waste by combining a financial aid package of Pell grants, SJU need based grants, and QSAD'd with student loans. The students who do not complete their education and get their degree are left only with student loan burdens that are difficult to impossible to repay. If they default on them, their credit is shot, denying them a better life in the near future even if they build successful careers without a degree. While there are many factor of intellect that aren't assessed by standardized testing, low SAT/ACT scores are often (but not only) warnings of pending academic failure. The safety net cannot and is not simply to forgive massive student loan debt for students given an opportunity with a low chance of success.

two different issues. what we were talking about is kids with 3.2 GPAs.

I would agree. To me, while private institutions can do what they wish, I don't believe any institution should be gifting those who are not here legally, as beneficial it may be to the individual recipient. I think our immobilized Congress has to come up with a plan that will grant some sort of status to those here for long periods of time who are not likely to be deported. Until then, though, we should not be creating entitlements and private incentives for other to come here illegally.

 

[Red.Fans]

While what you say is true, there are SJU board members who are advocating offering admission and assistance to those students who have a better success quotient. To date, with an abysmal 6 year graduation rate, many disadvantaged but academically unqualified students have been laid to waste by combining a financial aid package of Pell grants, SJU need based grants, and QSAD'd with student loans. The students who do not complete their education and get their degree are left only with student loan burdens that are difficult to impossible to repay. If they default on them, their credit is shot, denying them a better life in the near future even if they build successful careers without a degree. While there are many factor of intellect that aren't assessed by standardized testing, low SAT/ACT scores are often (but not only) warnings of pending academic failure. The safety net cannot and is not simply to forgive massive student loan debt for students given an opportunity with a low chance of success.

two different issues. what we were talking about is kids with 3.2 GPAs.

I would agree. To me, while private institutions can do what they wish, I don't believe any institution should be gifting those who are not here legally, as beneficial it may be to the individual recipient. I think our immobilized Congress has to come up with a plan that will grant some sort of status to those here for long periods of time who are not likely to be deported. Until then, though, we should not be creating entitlements and private incentives for other to come here illegally.

Again, U Miami is private. This is not an entitlement. And "we should..." does not go with "private" incentives. So you are going to tell me or others how to spend their money? Very left wing of you.

 

[beast of the east]

While what you say is true, there are SJU board members who are advocating offering admission and assistance to those students who have a better success quotient. To date, with an abysmal 6 year graduation rate, many disadvantaged but academically unqualified students have been laid to waste by combining a financial aid package of Pell grants, SJU need based grants, and QSAD'd with student loans. The students who do not complete their education and get their degree are left only with student loan burdens that are difficult to impossible to repay. If they default on them, their credit is shot, denying them a better life in the near future even if they build successful careers without a degree. While there are many factor of intellect that aren't assessed by standardized testing, low SAT/ACT scores are often (but not only) warnings of pending academic failure. The safety net cannot and is not simply to forgive massive student loan debt for students given an opportunity with a low chance of success.

two different issues. what we were talking about is kids with 3.2 GPAs.

I would agree. To me, while private institutions can do what they wish, I don't believe any institution should be gifting those who are not here legally, as beneficial it may be to the individual recipient. I think our immobilized Congress has to come up with a plan that will grant some sort of status to those here for long periods of time who are not likely to be deported. Until then, though, we should not be creating entitlements and private incentives for other to come here illegally.

Again, U Miami is private. This is not an entitlement. And "we should..." does not go with "private" incentives. So you are going to tell me or others how to spend their money? Very left wing of you.

Nice try, but you missed the mark. I'm really not for any private nor public group offering assistance to any person to has no legal right to be here. That point should be clear.

 

[Red.Fans]

While what you say is true, there are SJU board members who are advocating offering admission and assistance to those students who have a better success quotient. To date, with an abysmal 6 year graduation rate, many disadvantaged but academically unqualified students have been laid to waste by combining a financial aid package of Pell grants, SJU need based grants, and QSAD'd with student loans. The students who do not complete their education and get their degree are left only with student loan burdens that are difficult to impossible to repay. If they default on them, their credit is shot, denying them a better life in the near future even if they build successful careers without a degree. While there are many factor of intellect that aren't assessed by standardized testing, low SAT/ACT scores are often (but not only) warnings of pending academic failure. The safety net cannot and is not simply to forgive massive student loan debt for students given an opportunity with a low chance of success.

two different issues. what we were talking about is kids with 3.2 GPAs.

I would agree. To me, while private institutions can do what they wish, I don't believe any institution should be gifting those who are not here legally, as beneficial it may be to the individual recipient. I think our immobilized Congress has to come up with a plan that will grant some sort of status to those here for long periods of time who are not likely to be deported. Until then, though, we should not be creating entitlements and private incentives for other to come here illegally.

Again, U Miami is private. This is not an entitlement. And "we should..." does not go with "private" incentives. So you are going to tell me or others how to spend their money? Very left wing of you.

I'm really not for any private nor public group offering assistance to any person to has no legal right to be here. That point should be clear.

OK dude that is between you and your priest.

 

[beast of the east]

While what you say is true, there are SJU board members who are advocating offering admission and assistance to those students who have a better success quotient. To date, with an abysmal 6 year graduation rate, many disadvantaged but academically unqualified students have been laid to waste by combining a financial aid package of Pell grants, SJU need based grants, and QSAD'd with student loans. The students who do not complete their education and get their degree are left only with student loan burdens that are difficult to impossible to repay. If they default on them, their credit is shot, denying them a better life in the near future even if they build successful careers without a degree. While there are many factor of intellect that aren't assessed by standardized testing, low SAT/ACT scores are often (but not only) warnings of pending academic failure. The safety net cannot and is not simply to forgive massive student loan debt for students given an opportunity with a low chance of success.

two different issues. what we were talking about is kids with 3.2 GPAs.

I would agree. To me, while private institutions can do what they wish, I don't believe any institution should be gifting those who are not here legally, as beneficial it may be to the individual recipient. I think our immobilized Congress has to come up with a plan that will grant some sort of status to those here for long periods of time who are not likely to be deported. Until then, though, we should not be creating entitlements and private incentives for other to come here illegally.

Again, U Miami is private. This is not an entitlement. And "we should..." does not go with "private" incentives. So you are going to tell me or others how to spend their money? Very left wing of you.

I'm really not for any private nor public group offering assistance to any person to has no legal right to be here. That point should be clear.

OK dude that is between you and your priest.

It wouldn't help. The Catholic Church spends millions if not tens of millions offering support services to Latinos here illegally. Of course these Latinos are coming from overwhelmingly Catholic countries, so I don't believe their position is not without vested interest to fill the pews.