The Streak

Beast Of the East Wrote: Totally different era, when there was just 3 major networks and maybe 1 televised games nationally. Fans never got to see stars like Bill Russell, Jerry West, or Wilt Chamberlain play on TV. UCLA got lots of TV run in their hey day, which would have meant that fans got to see them maybe 3 or 4 times a year.

It was a huge recruiting advantage for St. John's to be in NY. A mid major without conferences would have a hard time getting enough exposure to even be considered for a major tournament. So we got a much bigger share of local talent, even after Frank McGuire carpet bagged to the ACC and raided NYC talent.

Also consider that in an era without conference play, we had overall a softer schedule. 18 games in conference out of 31 is brutal, especially when you throw in 4 or 5 competitive OOC games. It's what greatly narrows the number of consecutive winning seasons coaches have over extended periods of time.


I understand your points but just because our consistent winning records happened in a different period of time does not negate our consistency of excellence for thirty years. Realistically during St. John's thirty year run the basketball landscape evolved tremendously but your arguments about how things were back then apply differently in 1963 then they do in 1992.

For me the X factor is that when Coach Carnasecca left it ended our ability to win consistently. At Syracuse Coach Boheim kept that winning culture going even though the game continued to keep evolving. The game changed drastically from 1963 to 1992 yet SJU kept winning. Why was that? I believe that since then we have never had the right steward to guide the ship back to consistency. One of the reasons to me that Coach Anderson is an exciting choice as leader is his consistent track record of winning. Its right there in his past performances and it would be great if seasons of five hundred or better happened year after year instead of at the fifty percent rate we have achieved over the last 26 years.
 
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The streak lives!!!!
With tonight's victory St. John's is 17-15 on the season and is guaranteed at least a five hundred record. I know some don't think the streak is relevant but I disagree and am pleased that Mike Anderson was able to get this group of players to come together and play this well.

If there were betting odds, before the season started, on which of the four coaches would have had their streak end this year then Coach Anderson would have been an odds on favorite to have his streak end. Instead it is Roy Williams whose streak of winning seasons will come to an end this year.

Last season's hiring process was a topsy turvy affair but I believe we were very fortunate to have landed on the right guy. I am optimistic that Coach Anderson's streak will continue next year and beyond.
 
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Coach Anderson showed everyone why he's had such success. What he's accomplished with Mullin's players and a few recruits this year is noteworthy.

The no losing seasons streak continues for yet another year.
 
Still very early but currently it seems like CMA's floor could be competing for NCAA's every year or so at least in mix on the bubble for much if not all season. This was Lavin's ceiling barely making tourneys with 4-5 star kids which is why he was fired. I think his ability is there, we just need consistent talent here via recruiting.
 
[quote="Mike Zaun" post=381312]Still very early but currently it seems like CMA's floor could be competing for NCAA's every year or so at least in mix on the bubble for much if not all season. This was Lavin's ceiling barely making tourneys with 4-5 star kids which is why he was fired. I think his ability is there, we just need consistent talent here via recruiting.[/quote]

At UAB he made the NIT year 1, then 3 straight NCAAs
At Missouri he didnt make the NIT his first 2 years. Then made NCAA next 3 years.
At Arkansas he had no postseason first 2 years. NIT in year 3, NCAA in 4, 6 and 7
 
[quote="Moose" post=381314][quote="Mike Zaun" post=381312]Still very early but currently it seems like CMA's floor could be competing for NCAA's every year or so at least in mix on the bubble for much if not all season. This was Lavin's ceiling barely making tourneys with 4-5 star kids which is why he was fired. I think his ability is there, we just need consistent talent here via recruiting.[/quote]

At UAB he made the NIT year 1, then 3 straight NCAAs
At Missouri he didnt make the NIT his first 2 years. Then made NCAA next 3 years.
At Arkansas he had no postseason first 2 years. NIT in year 3, NCAA in 4, 6 and 7[/quote]

Outside of any crazy injuries, st johns is in the ncaa tourney next year guaranted. We almost tot in w/ this ragtag bunch. 3 of the 4 kids coming in next hear are going to play manor roles and be very good. No one is going to look forward to playing st johns next year. Heck, no one wants to play them right now.
 
[quote="Moose" post=381314][quote="Mike Zaun" post=381312]Still very early but currently it seems like CMA's floor could be competing for NCAA's every year or so at least in mix on the bubble for much if not all season. This was Lavin's ceiling barely making tourneys with 4-5 star kids which is why he was fired. I think his ability is there, we just need consistent talent here via recruiting.[/quote]

At UAB he made the NIT year 1, then 3 straight NCAAs
At Missouri he didnt make the NIT his first 2 years. Then made NCAA next 3 years.
At Arkansas he had no postseason first 2 years. NIT in year 3, NCAA in 4, 6 and 7[/quote]

Let’s go coach Mike! Personally excited to keep the streak alive and so glad to have him. Thanks for coming to SJU coach Mike!
 
[quote="Duke of Earlington" post=381323][quote="Moose" post=381314][quote="Mike Zaun" post=381312]Still very early but currently it seems like CMA's floor could be competing for NCAA's every year or so at least in mix on the bubble for much if not all season. This was Lavin's ceiling barely making tourneys with 4-5 star kids which is why he was fired. I think his ability is there, we just need consistent talent here via recruiting.[/quote]

At UAB he made the NIT year 1, then 3 straight NCAAs
At Missouri he didnt make the NIT his first 2 years. Then made NCAA next 3 years.
At Arkansas he had no postseason first 2 years. NIT in year 3, NCAA in 4, 6 and 7[/quote]

Outside of any crazy injuries, st johns is in the ncaa tourney next year guaranted. We almost tot in w/ this ragtag bunch. 3 of the 4 kids coming in next hear are going to play manor roles and be very good. No one is going to look forward to playing st johns next year. Heck, no one wants to play them right now.[/quote]

Hope this is true but would encourage we don’t get ahead of ourselves with expectations. One game at a time and keep building. I have faith and believe we have a good shot, but in reality nobody knows how the new kids are gonna do and we’ll see if everyone in the team stays. We haven’t had the usual mid year defection this year, so that’s a good sign and a testament to what coach is building IMO.
 
[quote="RyGuyRedStorm" post=381333][quote="Duke of Earlington" post=381323][quote="Moose" post=381314][quote="Mike Zaun" post=381312]Still very early but currently it seems like CMA's floor could be competing for NCAA's every year or so at least in mix on the bubble for much if not all season. This was Lavin's ceiling barely making tourneys with 4-5 star kids which is why he was fired. I think his ability is there, we just need consistent talent here via recruiting.[/quote]

At UAB he made the NIT year 1, then 3 straight NCAAs
At Missouri he didnt make the NIT his first 2 years. Then made NCAA next 3 years.
At Arkansas he had no postseason first 2 years. NIT in year 3, NCAA in 4, 6 and 7[/quote]

Outside of any crazy injuries, st johns is in the ncaa tourney next year guaranted. We almost tot in w/ this ragtag bunch. 3 of the 4 kids coming in next hear are going to play manor roles and be very good. No one is going to look forward to playing st johns next year. Heck, no one wants to play them right now.[/quote]

Hope this is true but would encourage we don’t get ahead of ourselves with expectations. One game at a time and keep building. I have faith and believe we have a good shot, but in reality nobody knows how the new kids are gonna do and we’ll see if everyone in the team stays. We haven’t had the usual mid year defection this year, so that’s a good sign and a testament to what coach is building IMO.[/quote]
Staying level headed is good to see.
 
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