The Physical Cliff

[fan5577]

Anyone who would say at this point in their career that Greene and Garrett are swing and misses, doesn't know the game of basketball.

No one is predicting the future. In the time they played already which is substantial, they have not produced.[/quote

I dissagree on Garrett, he has produced exactly as advertised!

 

[Section3]

Anyone who would say at this point in their career that Greene and Garrett are swing and misses, doesn't know the game of basketball.

No one is predicting the future. In the time they played already which is substantial, they have not produced.

They have produced like the underclassmen they are...It is the exception (not the norm) that underclassmen (even top 100) excel on a consistent basis...In fact, Greene, if not forced to play PG would be much more consistent (IMO)...As for Garrett, his inconsistency comes from basically being the only guy under the basket...He is a slasher not an inside player...Unfortunately there is no one to occupy the low post as Jakarr scores his points from 10+ and Obekpa spends too much time at top of key

 

[SJUalum98]

"Doofy Nova Kid" Huh? Guess these folks thought more of him in HS.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Ryan-Arcidiacono-114667

You can be doofy and nasty from behind the arc...just ask Steve Novak. I think our problem is we have bad talent evaluators. Lindsey, Garrett, Pointer, Greene, Jones, etc. all swings and misses there. It even looks like Gathers would have been a swing and miss if he had come here. We cannot win in the Big East with 1 very good player each year unless he becomes LeBron James. Give us 1 penetrating, quick PG i.e. Pierre Jackson, and 1 extra pure shooting threat i.e. Heslip and this team is probably undefeated. Lavin needs to start looking at skill players rather than freak athletes in general.

Greene, Garrett & Pointer have been here for a year and a half & Jones for 1/2 a year and they are swing and misses?

Dom was definitely not worthy of his ranking after watching him for 1.5 years now.

He's as one dimensional as a player can be. Not knocking him. Just calling it like it is.

I think he can be a terror on the defensive end in the right system. I think he hasn't been coached up though and therefore lacks discipline which is why he looks like he's out there and "just playing".

Over hyped yes but still not a swing and miss

What is a swing & miss to you?

Dom was ranked 25th by ESPN. Ahead of Harkless, Jakarr, Otto Porter, Ben McLemore.

What have you seen from him so far that could even come close to any of those players as a 4th year Senior from Dom?

Midrange game? Perimeter game? FT shooting? Ball handling? Rebounding?

What?

 

[Amaseinyourface]

Anyone who would say at this point in their career that Greene and Garrett are swing and misses, doesn't know the game of basketball.

No one is predicting the future. In the time they played already which is substantial, they have not produced.

And thats exactly why they aren't swing and misses. Phil greene wasnt even a top 150 recruit. Hes averaging 10 pts, 3 rbs, and 3 assists, 13 games into his sophomore year.

 

[redmannorth]

Anyone who would say at this point in their career that Greene and Garrett are swing and misses, doesn't know the game of basketball.

No one is predicting the future. In the time they played already which is substantial, they have not produced.

Joe3 2 quick questions for you:

1. How many 20 plus point games does PG have?
2. How many double doubles does AG have?

You may be surprised by the answers.
If our sophomore combo guard who was brought in to be the back-up at both positions has more than 1 20 point game in his brief career then he is no swing and miss.
If AG who has barely played 1 season has more than 1 double double then he is a big success IMHO.

 

[redstorm80]

"Doofy Nova Kid" Huh? Guess these folks thought more of him in HS.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Ryan-Arcidiacono-114667

You can be doofy and nasty from behind the arc...just ask Steve Novak. I think our problem is we have bad talent evaluators. Lindsey, Garrett, Pointer, Greene, Jones, etc. all swings and misses there. It even looks like Gathers would have been a swing and miss if he had come here. We cannot win in the Big East with 1 very good player each year unless he becomes LeBron James. Give us 1 penetrating, quick PG i.e. Pierre Jackson, and 1 extra pure shooting threat i.e. Heslip and this team is probably undefeated. Lavin needs to start looking at skill players rather than freak athletes in general.

Greene, Garrett & Pointer have been here for a year and a half & Jones for 1/2 a year and they are swing and misses?

Dom was definitely not worthy of his ranking after watching him for 1.5 years now.

He's as one dimensional as a player can be. Not knocking him. Just calling it like it is.

I think he can be a terror on the defensive end in the right system. I think he hasn't been coached up though and therefore lacks discipline which is why he looks like he's out there and "just playing".

Over hyped yes but still not a swing and miss

What is a swing & miss to you?

Dom was ranked 25th by ESPN. Ahead of Harkless, Jakarr, Otto Porter, Ben McLemore.

What have you seen from him so far that could even come close to any of those players as a 4th year Senior from Dom?

Midrange game? Perimeter game? FT shooting? Ball handling? Rebounding?

What?

A swing and a miss is someone who never pans out for your team. Dom still has plenty of time to improve but he is raw.

 

[ras]

You cant expect everyone to be stars by their So. season.