The new and improved Coach Mullin

[Red.Fans]

We go on a 16-1 run against Xavier to go up by 9 points. Even better, Xavier is having some foul trouble. So... what does Mullin do? He puts in Mussini, Alibegovic and Freudenberg.

Absolutely INEXCUSABLE. This is Xavier, you get a lead against a team like this, you have to put the boot to their throats while you can. Instead, Mullin just took any momentum we had and drained the life right out of it with that insanely bad Eurotrash lineup.

Would we still have won? Maybe not. Ahmed stunk, Ponds wasn't good either. But we would have had a shot.

I am beyond pissed at Mullin.

Not sure that it would have changed the result, but I thought that was the beginning of the end. Sometimes coaches become creatures of habit and make changes - just because. Alibegovic should not play - period. RF looked plain scared (air balled a floater) but I will cut him some slack being a freshmen.

As bad as it looked, I think Xavier is the type of team that we can beat on a good night. No dominant big. Unfortunately, we just refuse to play defense.

I agree about "the tripod" but the thinking I am assuming was a strategy for the 2nd half. The refs were ridiculous with the whistles and we have the lead and the foul advantage at that point so get those guys in while we have a lead and we just need to keep it close until the half Then we have players in the second half that still have fouls to give while Xavier starts the second tentative. That is the reality of our depth. Would you rather have Ellison, Owens, and Bashir in at the end of the game or have them fouled out and then we rely upon Amar, Freud and Mussini? It was a bad gamble but facing a superior team on their home court, sometimes you gamble and maybe you sneak out with a win if the gamble pays off.

Our guys were on the road facing a really good team and they looked almost to a man, disinterested or oblivious. Unfortunately only Lovett was hitting in the first and Bashir was really bad in just about every way the entire game. Mussini has to come in and hit. That is his role. He didn't. Ponds only took 5 shots in 1st half and looked like he was somewhere else. Owens for the first time this season also took a major vacation for most of this game. Very little intensity. Lovett while our only real offense in the 1st half and overall the only guy that looked like he was there to play, was still careless with the ball and took some vacations on defense as well. Maybe because the way the calls were going i.e. way too many.

 

[paultzman]

We go on a 16-1 run against Xavier to go up by 9 points. Even better, Xavier is having some foul trouble. So... what does Mullin do? He puts in Mussini, Alibegovic and Freudenberg.

Absolutely INEXCUSABLE. This is Xavier, you get a lead against a team like this, you have to put the boot to their throats while you can. Instead, Mullin just took any momentum we had and drained the life right out of it with that insanely bad Eurotrash lineup.

Would we still have won? Maybe not. Ahmed stunk, Ponds wasn't good either. But we would have had a shot.

I am beyond pissed at Mullin.

Not sure that it would have changed the result, but I thought that was the beginning of the end. Sometimes coaches become creatures of habit and make changes - just because. Alibegovic should not play - period. RF looked plain scared (air balled a floater) but I will cut him some slack being a freshmen.

As bad as it looked, I think Xavier is the type of team that we can beat on a good night. No dominant big. Unfortunately, we just refuse to play defense.

I agree about "the tripod" but the thinking I am assuming was a strategy for the 2nd half. The refs were ridiculous with the whistles and we have the lead and the foul advantage at that point so get those guys in while we have a lead and we just need to keep it close until the half Then we have players in the second half that still have fouls to give while Xavier starts the second tentative. That is the reality of our depth. Would you rather have Ellison, Owens, and Bashir in at the end of the game or have them fouled out and then we rely upon Amar, Freud and Mussini? It was a bad gamble but facing a superior team on their home court, sometimes you gamble and maybe you sneak out with a win if the gamble pays off.

Our guys were on the road facing a really good team and they looked almost to a man, disinterested or oblivious. Unfortunately only Lovett was hitting in the first and Bashir was really bad in just about every way the entire game. Mussini has to come in and hit. That is his role. He didn't. Ponds only took 5 shots in 1st half and looked like he was somewhere else. Owens for the first time this season also took a major vacation for most of this game. Very little intensity. Lovett while our only real offense in the 1st half and overall the only guy that looked like he was there to play, was still careless with the ball and took some vacations on defense as well. Maybe because the way the calls were going i.e. way too many.

Appreciate your thoughts on the 3 Euro kids, but in my opinion playing them at the same time is recipe for disaster, essentially requiring the other two guys to do it all offensively. Secondly, none of the three can defend. A risk like this can open the flood gates.

 

[Red.Fans]

We go on a 16-1 run against Xavier to go up by 9 points. Even better, Xavier is having some foul trouble. So... what does Mullin do? He puts in Mussini, Alibegovic and Freudenberg.

Absolutely INEXCUSABLE. This is Xavier, you get a lead against a team like this, you have to put the boot to their throats while you can. Instead, Mullin just took any momentum we had and drained the life right out of it with that insanely bad Eurotrash lineup.

Would we still have won? Maybe not. Ahmed stunk, Ponds wasn't good either. But we would have had a shot.

I am beyond pissed at Mullin.

Not sure that it would have changed the result, but I thought that was the beginning of the end. Sometimes coaches become creatures of habit and make changes - just because. Alibegovic should not play - period. RF looked plain scared (air balled a floater) but I will cut him some slack being a freshmen.

As bad as it looked, I think Xavier is the type of team that we can beat on a good night. No dominant big. Unfortunately, we just refuse to play defense.

I agree about "the tripod" but the thinking I am assuming was a strategy for the 2nd half. The refs were ridiculous with the whistles and we have the lead and the foul advantage at that point so get those guys in while we have a lead and we just need to keep it close until the half Then we have players in the second half that still have fouls to give while Xavier starts the second tentative. That is the reality of our depth. Would you rather have Ellison, Owens, and Bashir in at the end of the game or have them fouled out and then we rely upon Amar, Freud and Mussini? It was a bad gamble but facing a superior team on their home court, sometimes you gamble and maybe you sneak out with a win if the gamble pays off.

Our guys were on the road facing a really good team and they looked almost to a man, disinterested or oblivious. Unfortunately only Lovett was hitting in the first and Bashir was really bad in just about every way the entire game. Mussini has to come in and hit. That is his role. He didn't. Ponds only took 5 shots in 1st half and looked like he was somewhere else. Owens for the first time this season also took a major vacation for most of this game. Very little intensity. Lovett while our only real offense in the 1st half and overall the only guy that looked like he was there to play, was still careless with the ball and took some vacations on defense as well. Maybe because the way the calls were going i.e. way too many.

Appreciate your thoughts on the 3 Euro kids, but in my opinion playing them at the same time is recipe for disaster, essentially requiring the other two guys to do it all offensively. Secondly, none of the three can defend. A risk like this can open the flood gates.

Like I said, I agree. I'm just saying that it seemed to me that it was a gamble to play for the second half. It obviously was a disaster but I don't think it was a total coaching/strategy blunder. It was a risky strategy that failed. Reality is that we have a really thin frontcourt and three major minutes guys that are foul prone: Owens, Bashir, Ellison. In the first NO ONE was providing any real offense other than Lovett. A lot of hard choices for the coach and no real good answers no matter what you do. Had Ellison, Owens, Bashir and/or Ponds been playing better maybe the choice would have been different.

 

[beast of the east]

I've been told by someone very close to the situation that Carnesecca let McKoy het away with anything McKoy chose not to do. Run stairs with his teammates. Nope. Teammates implored him to practice, and McKoy would reply "I'll learn that at the next level (NBA)" Part of McKoy's problem was the from the time he was 10 he was told he was headed to the NBA and didnt grow size wise or in skills .


I thought Yakwe worked hard on defense yesterday

 

[OLV72]

Perhaps the coach plays his bench (three euros) in these most difficult road games with the future in mind. This team is not winning this season. As we all know, it is being built to win next year and beyond.

You sacrifice losing by under 10 for gaining a glimpse of how players are developing with the long term in mind.

 

[ras]

It was the first half and we were winning. Losing consistently is demoralizing for the team, staff , fans and looks bad to future recruits. Re Amar, he has been here enough for Mullin to see what he has. That said, none of our bigs played well yesterday and he got a lot of rebounds in a short amount of time.Also he is the biggest body on the team. Although Freud is young IMO he has been disappointing. His shooting stats stink and he looks like a poor defender .I've always been critical of playing Freud and Amar at the same time. They do not compliment one another. I think Mussini got burn because of Ellisons foul trouble. Still a bad lineup at the time. I really hope Matt has something up his sleeve w another big, To say we miss Livingston this year would be an understatement.j

 

[redfazed]

Perhaps the coach plays his bench (three euros) in these most difficult road games with the future in mind. This team is not winning this season. As we all know, it is being built to win next year and beyond.

You sacrifice losing by under 10 for gaining a glimpse of how players are developing with the long term in mind.

If the 3 Euros are the future, then we should just hang it up right now. Appreciate their efforts and not knocking them as people, but they are all three not worthy of more than 3-5 mins a game against competition like Xavier.

Come to think of it, when is the last time a European played a significant positive role in SJU's performance? For that matter, how many Euros are making a major difference to any high-major D1 team? I'm drawing a blank.

 

[paultzman]

Perhaps the coach plays his bench (three euros) in these most difficult road games with the future in mind. This team is not winning this season. As we all know, it is being built to win next year and beyond.

You sacrifice losing by under 10 for gaining a glimpse of how players are developing with the long term in mind.

If Amar is part of that future, we are in trouble. Enough of a sample size with him to see he is not a BE player.

 

[22057]

Andrew Gaze !

 

[ras]

Perhaps the coach plays his bench (three euros) in these most difficult road games with the future in mind. This team is not winning this season. As we all know, it is being built to win next year and beyond.

You sacrifice losing by under 10 for gaining a glimpse of how players are developing with the long term in mind.

If Amar is part of that future, we are in trouble. Enough of a sample size with him to see he is not a BE player.

It makes you wonder how we would have been w Jones. Although not a world beater . He is strong and has an inside game.

 

[paultzman]

Perhaps the coach plays his bench (three euros) in these most difficult road games with the future in mind. This team is not winning this season. As we all know, it is being built to win next year and beyond.

You sacrifice losing by under 10 for gaining a glimpse of how players are developing with the long term in mind.

If Amar is part of that future, we are in trouble. Enough of a sample size with him to see he is not a BE player.

It makes you wonder how we would have been w Jones. Although not a world beater . He is strong and has an inside game.

Water under the bridge, but clearly he would have been a plus. Our interior is horrible, with exception of Owen's hustle & hard play & he is really a hybrid forward. Who knows how that would translate to wins, but IMO it would have added some physicality, a little scoring & made life easier for the guards. Oh well.

Btw, not sure what to make of Williams, looked promising for a while.

 

[GardenCity62]

As posted by OLV72 maybe Mullin is wondering if all three should be brought back next year.

 

[usguard]

Perhaps the coach plays his bench (three euros) in these most difficult road games with the future in mind. This team is not winning this season. As we all know, it is being built to win next year and beyond.

You sacrifice losing by under 10 for gaining a glimpse of how players are developing with the long term in mind.

If Amar is part of that future, we are in trouble. Enough of a sample size with him to see he is not a BE player.

It makes you wonder how we would have been w Jones. Although not a world beater . He is strong and has an inside game.

Water under the bridge, but clearly he would have been a plus. Our interior is horrible, with exception of Owen's hustle & hard play & he is really a hybrid forward. Who knows how that would translate to wins, but IMO it would have added some physicality, a little scoring & made life easier for the guards. Oh well.

Btw, not sure what to make of Williams, looked promising for a while.

Agree with Paultz jones would not have made much diff he is not an
answer I am in until the end of next yr as I said before however if the product does not improve and get us in NCAA then screams for changes should be heard and implemented By now Bashir should have the instruction play his game but stay in control and look to pass. They must all be ingrained to pass and look for the open man or the player with the best opportunity to score. We seem to pass then at the last few sec have to take an illusive forced shot etc But what it comes down to is recruiting talent that is big east talent and above this
i give staff a C AND LOOK AT CREIGHTON THEY RECRUIT PLAYERS THAT MANY SCHOOLs HAVE NOT OR under THE RADAR AND FIND GEMS It is easy to recruit standouts or 5* players but unless you are Kentucky,Kansas Duke etc.etc you will most likely not land them So this aspect is hard for Matt since unless the players really want us or a great player wants to stay home is is difficult But these are what we are up against . If it was easy we would not be paying millions to the staff They must produce in a reasonable time period

 

[OLV72]

As posted by OLV72 maybe Mullin is wondering if all three should be brought back next year.

Exactly. I guess some assumed that the coach is playing them because he is set on them being a part of next year. Here's his quote - "We're balancing building and trying to win at the same time."

I am sure he does not think and react on a play by play basis as posters do. One thing that Mullin has stated over and over is not to get too high after the wins or low after the losses. Though he did look pretty excited in the short clips of the locker room after the recent Cuse and Butler wins shown on the red storm report yesterday.

I really like what Mullin is doing with this Program right now.

 

[Section3]

Perhaps the coach plays his bench (three euros) in these most difficult road games with the future in mind. This team is not winning this season. As we all know, it is being built to win next year and beyond.

You sacrifice losing by under 10 for gaining a glimpse of how players are developing with the long term in mind.

If Amar is part of that future, we are in trouble. Enough of a sample size with him to see he is not a BE player.

It makes you wonder how we would have been w Jones. Although not a world beater . He is strong and has an inside game.

Water under the bridge, but clearly he would have been a plus. Our interior is horrible, with exception of Owen's hustle & hard play & he is really a hybrid forward. Who knows how that would translate to wins, but IMO it would have added some physicality, a little scoring & made life easier for the guards. Oh well.

Btw, not sure what to make of Williams, looked promising for a while.

I think he looked rushed yesterday. On our roster, he should be getting more consistent time.

 

[gonzalo]

Come to think of it, when is the last time a European played a significant positive role in SJU's performance? For that matter, how many Euros are making a major difference to any high-major D1 team? I'm drawing a blank.

I don´t think that there has been a European that has played a significant positive role in SJU.

And I only remember a European that played well in the Big East: Arturas Karnishovas (Seton Hall) from Lithuania. Perhaps a few more, but not many.

 

[gonzalo]

Come to think of it, when is the last time a European played a significant positive role in SJU's performance? For that matter, how many Euros are making a major difference to any high-major D1 team? I'm drawing a blank.

I don´t think that there has been a European that has played a significant positive role in SJU.

And I only remember a European that played well in the Big East: Arturas Karnishovas (Seton Hall) from Lithuania. Perhaps a few more, but not many.

 

[Andrew]

The Finnish kid on Arizona is real good.

 

[weathermannyc]

Come to think of it, when is the last time a European played a significant positive role in SJU's performance? For that matter, how many Euros are making a major difference to any high-major D1 team? I'm drawing a blank.

I don´t think that there has been a European that has played a significant positive role in SJU.

And I only remember a European that played well in the Big East: Arturas Karnishovas (Seton Hall) from Lithuania. Perhaps a few more, but not many.

Doron Sheffer and Nadov Hennefeld from UConn.

 

[austour]

Come to think of it, when is the last time a European played a significant positive role in SJU's performance? For that matter, how many Euros are making a major difference to any high-major D1 team? I'm drawing a blank.

I don´t think that there has been a European that has played a significant positive role in SJU.

And I only remember a European that played well in the Big East: Arturas Karnishovas (Seton Hall) from Lithuania. Perhaps a few more, but not many.

Doron Sheffer and Nadov Hennefeld from UConn.

Israel is in Asia not Europe. And in case it wasn't a joke Andrew Gaze was from Australia.