The ACC/ESPN brand.

I'm watching the catastrophe Duke game and listening to Bob Wischusen and Dick Vitale talk about the Big East in the past tense. I heard Wischusen say something like: "Ya know, Dick, at one time the Big East was a big draw in NYC". As if that has changed. Wischusen used to regularly profess his admiration for the Big East and SJU when under the tutelage of Francesca. What happened?

Moments later Vitale is on a tangent about the SAT scores of Cameron attendees. "It's 1540, on average". He never mentions that the Duke basketball team has been an NBA farm team for decades where student athletes rarely graduate, regardless of SAT scores. As if it was the SAT scores that attracted people like Zion to Duke. He's there because the NBA won't let players in straight from high school anymore. The announcers don't even hide this fact. They openly wonder if he'll land on the Knicks next year, as if staying at school and graduating like many of our players do isn't even an option.

They never discuss the billions in revenue that the ACC/ESPN brand generates, based almost entirely on free labor of "student athletes" on a pipeline to the NBA. I'm sure the 1540 SAT scores were the major selling point for Williamson to attend the "school". Really, the players are attending ESPN.

Listening to the (formerly) respectable Wischusen and the always awful Vitale during SJU/Duke game is like watching a 2 hour long commercial for ESPN/ACC. It's like the old 'taste test' commercials: "Here's our amazing brand, and here is our irrelevant competitor". It's endless self promotion and platforming of the ACC teams they want to win.

Point is: This isn't amateur sport anymore. It's like the Olympics when Russia would place professionals against our amateurs. Many of our players choose SJU because it keeps them close to family, etc. Players choose Duke because the NBA no longer allows first year entrance, and it gets them on ESPN all week long.

How can any of this be considered school sport anymore? Amateur athletics?
 
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The only silver lining is these freshman heavy stacked teams dont win in March. With the exception of the Kentucky Anthony Davis squad and Duke’s all bust squad with Jahlil Okafor and Tyus Jones
 
The lead by ESPN scrolling at the bottom of the screen is “Duke destroys St. John’s by 30 Pts”
 
I’m not disagreeing with you Brian W. The ACC and ESPN are definitely tied by the pocketbook. However, be totally honest here. If Mullin could successfully recruit a squad of Top 5 recruits, would you take it? Knowing that they will be one year players?
 
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[quote="Porgyman" post=319762]I’m not disagreeing with you Brian W. The ACC and ESPN are definitely tied by the pocketbook. However, be totally honest here. If Mullin could successfully recruit a squad of Top 5 recruits, would you take it? Knowing that they will be one year players?[/quote]

I would take it in a heartbeat
 
[quote="Porgyman" post=319762]I’m not disagreeing with you Brian W. The ACC and ESPN are definitely tied by the pocketbook. However, be totally honest here. If Mullin could successfully recruit a squad of Top 5 recruits, would you take it? Knowing that they will be one year players?[/quote]

If he could do it consistently year to year, like Duke and Kentucky do, then absolutely yes.

Doing it once, and putting all your eggs into the basket for one year? I'd rather go in a different direction. That does not mean I wouldn't take any top 5 player. Put one on this team, with a solid supporting cast (to where we would not be totally starting over when the stud leave), and I'm on board.
 
[quote="Frank61" post=319800]Vitale is absolutely NAUSEATING![/quote]

Seems to root for SJU & Mullin.
 
[quote="Jack Williams" post=319680]The only silver lining is these freshman heavy stacked teams dont win in March. With the exception of the Kentucky Anthony Davis squad and Duke’s all bust squad with Jahlil Okafor and Tyus Jones[/quote]

That's two championships in what, eight years? That's pretty good. There is no disputing that taking one and done players doesn't work. Never mind that Duke and Kentucky are consistently ranked in the top 10.

I, along with everyone else, despises Puke, but their system works.
 
Vitale has always degraded st John's
Once in a while he would say something nice about Louie
 
[quote="dee" post=319933]Vitale has always degraded st John's
Once in a while he would say something nice about Louie[/quote]
He’s also close to Slice.
 
Vitale actually seemed very complimentary to St John's, Mullin, and Louie during the broadcast. He talked about some of the history too and it seemed like he genuinely appreciated the legacy of the school.
 
[quote="Room112" post=319966]Vitale actually seemed very complimentary to St John's, Mullin, and Louie during the broadcast. He talked about some of the history too and it seemed like he genuinely appreciated the legacy of the school.[/quote]

I’m just amazed you were able to keep the sound on!
 
It’s all part of the ESPN con. They hype their prize and every so often, say nice things about the victim.
It’s called marketing.
 
[quote="Chicago Days" post=319970]It’s all part of the ESPN con. They hype their prize and every so often, say nice things about the victim.
It’s called marketing.[/quote]

You guys sound bitter lol
 
[quote="Room112" post=319972][quote="Chicago Days" post=319970]It’s all part of the ESPN con. They hype their prize and every so often, say nice things about the victim.
It’s called marketing.[/quote]

You guys sound bitter lol[/quote]

Yeah lol.
It takes me a couple days to recover from blowouts to anybody, but especially Duke because it feeds into mainstream hype.
But moving on to a Tuesday and Marquette.
Let’s go Johnnies!
 
[quote="Room112" post=319966]Vitale actually seemed very complimentary to St John's, Mullin, and Louie during the broadcast. He talked about some of the history too and it seemed like he genuinely appreciated the legacy of the school.[/quote]

Don't let facts get in the way of the St. John's fan fairy tale view of things thru their red colored glasses
 
Actually thought the announcing was fair Saturday, particularly in light of how badly SJU was dominated in the second half. It almost felt at times like they were rooting for Ponds to get going to make it a game.

The officiating naturally was not balanced, not that it would have made a difference if it was, but it was refreshing to hear Vitale take the refs to task for that absolutely disgraceful flagrant-1 on Clark. Clark was playing basketball and the refs were officiating something else which is too bad and not a great trend.
 
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