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Albany is kind of local too, could get there from Queens in just over 2 hours, Stony Brook on the LIE could take almost as long in traffic
2 hours? what by helicopter?
I made it with no traffic in 2:15 when I went there, but I drive pretty fast :evil:
Albany is a great school, especially for the price. Better than most private schools, including SJU, for a lot less money.
Could not agree more! As are most NY State schools including Stony Brook, Binghamton. Geneseo, New Paultz, Buffalo, .etc.
That is New Paltz. We'll see a new Paultz when SJU wins next week
I think all of the SUNY schools are very good, but don't shortchange St. John's. Nobody has heard of any of the SUNY schools outside of New York and the location of SJU in NYC leads to limitless possibilities for those with vision and drive.
Yeah guess I got Paultz on my mind. Ha. As for schools, since we are in NY, and since my kid will most likely be looking for a job in NY, a degree from a state school such as Albany carries at least as much weight if not more than a degree from SJU. And you're talking to someone with a degree from SJU and someone who has been out in the business world in NYC since 1981. You do realize that in-state tuition at Albany is a little over 6k while tuition at SJU is a little over 44K? School allegiance aside, as a parent of one college kid and another high school junior, its a complete no-brainer.
Bright students should not have to make college choice based on tuition unless a family is not able to afford it or loans are a burden. Albany is a good school but the top 3 in the state system like Stony Brook, Buffalo and Binghamton are the only 3 on par with some of the California schools that are world class imo.
While tuition is very low unless you are commuter most State schools still require other fees like room and board and other indirect expenses that our young Albany grad can tell you approach $25,000 per year. As a big party school a kid's budget for off campus bars can offset some savings.
Mike Maher's total expenses for attending Albany could have approached the $50,000 mark at Albany. :cheer:
Maybe I'm getting old but Geneseo and Albany were usually ahead of Buffalo and Stony Brook. Also, as you mentioned, not many schools compared with Albany's social life(very important part of college.) Buffalo is too cold and from what I've heard Stony Brook doesn't have much of a social life.
Geneseo, historically known more for its partying, has really elevated its academic standing in recent years. No longer an easy admission. Stony Brook a "suitcase school". Most kids head home on the weekends.
Geneseo is the most selective school in the SUNY system
Harder to get into than all four "university centers'
When I graduated high school, you could have gotten into Geneseo with a C average
MarkRedman
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Purchase is largely an artsy-fartsy type of school
It's more of a niche school - not for everybody
L J S A
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My nephew was bored as hell there until he found a girlfriend. All his friends split every weekend.
Weird place too. He'd say hi to people on his floor just trying to be friendly, and kids would stare at him like he had two heads. I'm not the most outgoing guy offline, but it sounds like there are way too many social dweebs there.
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Albany is kind of local too, could get there from Queens in just over 2 hours, Stony Brook on the LIE could take almost as long in traffic
2 hours? what by helicopter?
I made it with no traffic in 2:15 when I went there, but I drive pretty fast :evil:
Albany is a great school, especially for the price. Better than most private schools, including SJU, for a lot less money.
Could not agree more! As are most NY State schools including Stony Brook, Binghamton. Geneseo, New Paultz, Buffalo, .etc.
That is New Paltz. We'll see a new Paultz when SJU wins next week
I think all of the SUNY schools are very good, but don't shortchange St. John's. Nobody has heard of any of the SUNY schools outside of New York and the location of SJU in NYC leads to limitless possibilities for those with vision and drive.
Yeah guess I got Paultz on my mind. Ha. As for schools, since we are in NY, and since my kid will most likely be looking for a job in NY, a degree from a state school such as Albany carries at least as much weight if not more than a degree from SJU. And you're talking to someone with a degree from SJU and someone who has been out in the business world in NYC since 1981. You do realize that in-state tuition at Albany is a little over 6k while tuition at SJU is a little over 44K? School allegiance aside, as a parent of one college kid and another high school junior, its a complete no-brainer.
Bright students should not have to make college choice based on tuition unless a family is not able to afford it or loans are a burden. Albany is a good school but the top 3 in the state system like Stony Brook, Buffalo and Binghamton are the only 3 on par with some of the California schools that are world class imo.
While tuition is very low unless you are commuter most State schools still require other fees like room and board and other indirect expenses that our young Albany grad can tell you approach $25,000 per year. As a big party school a kid's budget for off campus bars can offset some savings.
Mike Maher's total expenses for attending Albany could have approached the $50,000 mark at Albany. :cheer:
Cal probably has best state schools in country. Not trying to compare Albany to Cal schools. Nor would I compare SJU to Cal schools. Albany with room and board and incidentals is about 23K. SJU about 58K. I'll say again what I said before, a no-brainer IMO. Whether I can afford to send my kids to SJU or not is of little significance when you consider that NY State schools are consistently ranked amongst the best in the country for value. For what I have determined is essentially the same education with essentially the same long term benefits, I see no point in paying more than double the tuition and having my kids being saddled with more than double the debt(they are supplementing my payments with student loans)when they graduate.
As long as a kid is happy with their selection of college it is all good. I have had relatives accepted to SJU on full scholarships that opted for NYU without scholarships. My godson selected Villanova for Law over St. John's where he would have saved $20,000 per year on living expenses because he could have driven to SJU in 30 minutes. The only reason was because they were ranked higher at the time (6 years ago ). I think they may have fallen behind STJ by now. It all comes down to what the kid wants out of his college experience.
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Albany is kind of local too, could get there from Queens in just over 2 hours, Stony Brook on the LIE could take almost as long in traffic
2 hours? what by helicopter?
I made it with no traffic in 2:15 when I went there, but I drive pretty fast :evil:
Albany is a great school, especially for the price. Better than most private schools, including SJU, for a lot less money.
Could not agree more! As are most NY State schools including Stony Brook, Binghamton. Geneseo, New Paultz, Buffalo, .etc.
That is New Paltz. We'll see a new Paultz when SJU wins next week
I think all of the SUNY schools are very good, but don't shortchange St. John's. Nobody has heard of any of the SUNY schools outside of New York and the location of SJU in NYC leads to limitless possibilities for those with vision and drive.
Yeah guess I got Paultz on my mind. Ha. As for schools, since we are in NY, and since my kid will most likely be looking for a job in NY, a degree from a state school such as Albany carries at least as much weight if not more than a degree from SJU. And you're talking to someone with a degree from SJU and someone who has been out in the business world in NYC since 1981. You do realize that in-state tuition at Albany is a little over 6k while tuition at SJU is a little over 44K? School allegiance aside, as a parent of one college kid and another high school junior, its a complete no-brainer.
As a big party school a kid's budget for off campus bars can offset some savings.
Mike Maher's total expenses for attending Albany could have approached the $50,000 mark at Albany. :cheer:
my party expenses were manageable going to SJU. Aside from school I pretty much worked almost full time so I actually didn't party too crazy. But I made sure that 2 of my jobs were working at dairy barn and a liquor store to make sure I had cheap access to alcohol
Also Jpod's had something like nickel beer happy hours on fridays I think plus one of the bartenders at gantry's was in some of my classes
If I went away to school and didn't have to work while not taking classes I'd probably still be in debt from the cost of partying
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Albany is kind of local too, could get there from Queens in just over 2 hours, Stony Brook on the LIE could take almost as long in traffic
2 hours? what by helicopter?
I made it with no traffic in 2:15 when I went there, but I drive pretty fast :evil:
Albany is a great school, especially for the price. Better than most private schools, including SJU, for a lot less money.
Could not agree more! As are most NY State schools including Stony Brook, Binghamton. Geneseo, New Paultz, Buffalo, .etc.
That is New Paltz. We'll see a new Paultz when SJU wins next week
I think all of the SUNY schools are very good, but don't shortchange St. John's. Nobody has heard of any of the SUNY schools outside of New York and the location of SJU in NYC leads to limitless possibilities for those with vision and drive.
Yeah guess I got Paultz on my mind. Ha. As for schools, since we are in NY, and since my kid will most likely be looking for a job in NY, a degree from a state school such as Albany carries at least as much weight if not more than a degree from SJU. And you're talking to someone with a degree from SJU and someone who has been out in the business world in NYC since 1981. You do realize that in-state tuition at Albany is a little over 6k while tuition at SJU is a little over 44K? School allegiance aside, as a parent of one college kid and another high school junior, its a complete no-brainer.
Bright students should not have to make college choice based on tuition unless a family is not able to afford it or loans are a burden. Albany is a good school but the top 3 in the state system like Stony Brook, Buffalo and Binghamton are the only 3 on par with some of the California schools that are world class imo.
While tuition is very low unless you are commuter most State schools still require other fees like room and board and other indirect expenses that our young Albany grad can tell you approach $25,000 per year. As a big party school a kid's budget for off campus bars can offset some savings.
Mike Maher's total expenses for attending Albany could have approached the $50,000 mark at Albany. :cheer:
Maybe I'm getting old but Geneseo and Albany were usually ahead of Buffalo and Stony Brook. Also, as you mentioned, not many schools compared with Albany's social life(very important part of college.) Buffalo is too cold and from what I've heard Stony Brook doesn't have much of a social life.
Geneseo, historically known more for its partying, has really elevated its academic standing in recent years. No longer an easy admission. Stony Brook a "suitcase school". Most kids head home on the weekends.
Geneseo is the most selective school in the SUNY system
Harder to get into than all four "university centers'
When I graduated high school, you could have gotten into Geneseo with a C average
Beautiful location and selective but the university centers are ranked very high amongst national university rankings.
National University Ranking:
76. SUNY College of Environmental Science and Forestry
88. Binghamton University
88. Stony Brook University
103. University at Buffalo
126. University at Albany
Albany is ranked in same category as Seton Hall while St. John's is 145.
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Albany is kind of local too, could get there from Queens in just over 2 hours, Stony Brook on the LIE could take almost as long in traffic
2 hours? what by helicopter?
I made it with no traffic in 2:15 when I went there, but I drive pretty fast :evil:
Albany is a great school, especially for the price. Better than most private schools, including SJU, for a lot less money.
Could not agree more! As are most NY State schools including Stony Brook, Binghamton. Geneseo, New Paultz, Buffalo, .etc.
That is New Paltz. We'll see a new Paultz when SJU wins next week
I think all of the SUNY schools are very good, but don't shortchange St. John's. Nobody has heard of any of the SUNY schools outside of New York and the location of SJU in NYC leads to limitless possibilities for those with vision and drive.
Yeah guess I got Paultz on my mind. Ha. As for schools, since we are in NY, and since my kid will most likely be looking for a job in NY, a degree from a state school such as Albany carries at least as much weight if not more than a degree from SJU. And you're talking to someone with a degree from SJU and someone who has been out in the business world in NYC since 1981. You do realize that in-state tuition at Albany is a little over 6k while tuition at SJU is a little over 44K? School allegiance aside, as a parent of one college kid and another high school junior, its a complete no-brainer.
Bright students should not have to make college choice based on tuition unless a family is not able to afford it or loans are a burden. Albany is a good school but the top 3 in the state system like Stony Brook, Buffalo and Binghamton are the only 3 on par with some of the California schools that are world class imo.
While tuition is very low unless you are commuter most State schools still require other fees like room and board and other indirect expenses that our young Albany grad can tell you approach $25,000 per year. As a big party school a kid's budget for off campus bars can offset some savings.
Mike Maher's total expenses for attending Albany could have approached the $50,000 mark at Albany. :cheer:
Cal probably has best state schools in country. Not trying to compare Albany to Cal schools. Nor would I compare SJU to Cal schools. Albany with room and board and incidentals is about 23K. SJU about 58K. I'll say again what I said before, a no-brainer IMO. Whether I can afford to send my kids to SJU or not is of little significance when you consider that NY State schools are consistently ranked amongst the best in the country for value. For what I have determined is essentially the same education with essentially the same long term benefits, I see no point in paying more than double the tuition and having my kids being saddled with more than double the debt(they are supplementing my payments with student loans)when they graduate.
As long as a kid is happy with their selection of college it is all good. I have had relatives accepted to SJU on full scholarships that opted for NYU without scholarships. My godson selected Villanova for Law over St. John's where he would have saved $20,000 per year on living expenses because he could have driven to SJU in 30 minutes. The only reason was because they were ranked higher at the time (6 years ago ). I think they may have fallen behind STJ by now. It all comes down to what the kid wants out of his college experience.
My boy wanted to stay home. I pushed him to go away in part because of the regrets I have about not going away, but also because I felt he needed to learn some independence. I knew full well that it was going to cost me a lot more for room and board. So FWIW I wasn't looking for the cheapest way out. But for a kid who didn't really have a favorite private school, and who was undecided on what he wanted to major in, I felt that the state schools were a great option. From the looks of things right now, my daughter is not going to let me off the hook as easily financially.
