Seth Greenberg - Why SJU can win the Big East

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Outlook

St. John’s will be picked No. 2 in the preseason Big East rankings behind Villanova. After speaking to coaches throughout the league, the consensus is the Red Storm is as athletic and tough as any in the conference. Last season they posted the Big East’s top defensive efficiency (99.4), effective field goal percentage defense (47.2), turnover percentage defense (18.5), block percentage (16.6) and steal percentage (10.2). This season should be more of the same as they have the ability to pressure the ball on the perimeter and disrupt inside with Obepka’s elite rim-protecting ability.

Few teams have a backcourt as deep and talented. Lavin has versatility where he can play big -- with Obekpa and Thomas upfront -- or go small and play Pointer at power forward and have four tough, athletic and aggressive players on the floor.

The key for St. John's will be for them to compete and play like a mature and selfless senior team. Their upperclassmen must carry themselves like leaders. That means negotiating the marathon that is the season. Veteran squads often can go either way. When they play for each other, special things happen. When they give into the pressure of being seniors and their last time through the door, they sometimes splinter.

If the Red Storm buy in and respect each other and the challenges, an NCAA tournament bid will be theirs. However, another season like last year, defined by suspensions and selfish play, will not allow them to fulfill their immense potential.
 
I hope I am wrong, but this is appears to be written by a guy who didn't actually watch a lot of St. John's games last season and instead is reading stats and going by an experienced roster.

Anyone who watched this team intently last year, saw that our defense did not make big stops, and often appeared porous. With 3 guards on the court at most times, you should have a decent steal and turnover percentage, but he is also omitting that considering a three guard offense our overall shooting percentage was not very good.

With a three guard offense our perimeter defense should be sterling, and not just pumped up with steals or turnovers which are frequently caused by guys being out of position, resulting in easy shots for opponents.

I suspect the shooting % of our opponents is often them playing down to our level.. In basketball there is an ebb and flow, and more often than not last year we couldn't hit wide open shots with any consistency, and our opponents ended up doing to same - ugly basketball.

If this team shows the capacity to close out close games, and Harrison plays in those moments like the Big East POY he could contend for, if Jordan starts to look like a first round NBA pick, and if Obekpa shows improvement that goes beyond raw potential and is transformed into pro type numbers, then we can finish on top or close to it. If not, there will likely be more of the same as last season, and we will be discussing a new coach.
 
I believe Seth has grown into a pretty good analyst now,plus with his prior experience and direct
contact with coaches in all leagues including the Big East, it goes without saying that his take
on the season will bear more credence than any poster on this board.
 
He’s 100% right.

SJU’s goal this year (and quite frankly for most coming years if Lavin can ace his recruiting like we know he can) is to win the league. Period.

That doesn’t mean they will win the league but they should be near the top. No doubt.

Obviously they need to do it but they have the ballers. It’s up to coach. He knows it.

Expectations should be high, I have been saying that for months.
 
I hope I am wrong, but this is appears to be written by a guy who didn't actually watch a lot of St. John's games last season and instead is reading stats and going by an experienced roster.

Anyone who watched this team intently last year, saw that our defense did not make big stops, and often appeared porous. With 3 guards on the court at most times, you should have a decent steal and turnover percentage, but he is also omitting that considering a three guard offense our overall shooting percentage was not very good.

With a three guard offense our perimeter defense should be sterling, and not just pumped up with steals or turnovers which are frequently caused by guys being out of position, resulting in easy shots for opponents.

I suspect the shooting % of our opponents is often them playing down to our level.. In basketball there is an ebb and flow, and more often than not last year we couldn't hit wide open shots with any consistency, and our opponents ended up doing to same - ugly basketball.

If this team shows the capacity to close out close games, and Harrison plays in those moments like the Big East POY he could contend for, if Jordan starts to look like a first round NBA pick, and if Obekpa shows improvement that goes beyond raw potential and is transformed into pro type numbers, then we can finish on top or close to it. If not, there will likely be more of the same as last season, and we will be discussing a new coach.
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Why is it when something positive is written about our team some posters have to attack the writer. Seth Greenberg was a successful coach and is a good analyst. What he says is very true. If this team can come together and play unselfishly, we may be able to duplicate the success of the Hardy, DJ, Paris, and Burrell team. Hopefully, they learned from the adversity of last year.
 
I hope I am wrong, but this is appears to be written by a guy who didn't actually watch a lot of St. John's games last season and instead is reading stats and going by an experienced roster.

Anyone who watched this team intently last year, saw that our defense did not make big stops, and often appeared porous. With 3 guards on the court at most times, you should have a decent steal and turnover percentage, but he is also omitting that considering a three guard offense our overall shooting percentage was not very good.

With a three guard offense our perimeter defense should be sterling, and not just pumped up with steals or turnovers which are frequently caused by guys being out of position, resulting in easy shots for opponents.

I suspect the shooting % of our opponents is often them playing down to our level.. In basketball there is an ebb and flow, and more often than not last year we couldn't hit wide open shots with any consistency, and our opponents ended up doing to same - ugly basketball.

If this team shows the capacity to close out close games, and Harrison plays in those moments like the Big East POY he could contend for, if Jordan starts to look like a first round NBA pick, and if Obekpa shows improvement that goes beyond raw potential and is transformed into pro type numbers, then we can finish on top or close to it. If not, there will likely be more of the same as last season, and we will be discussing a new coach.
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Why is it when something positive is written about our team some posters have to attack the writer. Seth Greenberg was a successful coach and is a good analyst. What he says is very true. If this team can come together and play unselfishly, we may be able to duplicate the success of the Hardy, DJ, Paris, and Burrell team. Hopefully, they learned from the adversity of last year.
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Is it true that none are so blind as those who will not see?
 
http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/ncbexperts/post?id=2977

Outlook

St. John’s will be picked No. 2 in the preseason Big East rankings behind Villanova. After speaking to coaches throughout the league, the consensus is the Red Storm is as athletic and tough as any in the conference. Last season they posted the Big East’s top defensive efficiency (99.4), effective field goal percentage defense (47.2), turnover percentage defense (18.5), block percentage (16.6) and steal percentage (10.2). This season should be more of the same as they have the ability to pressure the ball on the perimeter and disrupt inside with Obepka’s elite rim-protecting ability.

Few teams have a backcourt as deep and talented. Lavin has versatility where he can play big -- with Obekpa and Thomas upfront -- or go small and play Pointer at power forward and have four tough, athletic and aggressive players on the floor.

The key for St. John's will be for them to compete and play like a mature and selfless senior team. Their upperclassmen must carry themselves like leaders. That means negotiating the marathon that is the season. Veteran squads often can go either way. When they play for each other, special things happen. When they give into the pressure of being seniors and their last time through the door, they sometimes splinter.

If the Red Storm buy in and respect each other and the challenges, an NCAA tournament bid will be theirs. However, another season like last year, defined by suspensions and selfish play, will not allow them to fulfill their immense potential.
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The last 2 paragraphs are most valid and critical points made
 
His assessment implies that Thomas makes the adjustment from Juco to Big East play quickly. That may be the case, it may not be. It's a hugely important wildcard for the team's prospects this season.
 
I hope I am wrong, but this is appears to be written by a guy who didn't actually watch a lot of St. John's games last season and instead is reading stats and going by an experienced roster.

Anyone who watched this team intently last year, saw that our defense did not make big stops, and often appeared porous. With 3 guards on the court at most times, you should have a decent steal and turnover percentage, but he is also omitting that considering a three guard offense our overall shooting percentage was not very good.

With a three guard offense our perimeter defense should be sterling, and not just pumped up with steals or turnovers which are frequently caused by guys being out of position, resulting in easy shots for opponents.

I suspect the shooting % of our opponents is often them playing down to our level.. In basketball there is an ebb and flow, and more often than not last year we couldn't hit wide open shots with any consistency, and our opponents ended up doing to same - ugly basketball.

If this team shows the capacity to close out close games, and Harrison plays in those moments like the Big East POY he could contend for, if Jordan starts to look like a first round NBA pick, and if Obekpa shows improvement that goes beyond raw potential and is transformed into pro type numbers, then we can finish on top or close to it. If not, there will likely be more of the same as last season, and we will be discussing a new coach.
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Why is it when something positive is written about our team some posters have to attack the writer. Seth Greenberg was a successful coach and is a good analyst. What he says is very true. If this team can come together and play unselfishly, we may be able to duplicate the success of the Hardy, DJ, Paris, and Burrell team. Hopefully, they learned from the adversity of last year.
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I'm not attacking the writer, but I AM questioning just how many games of ours that he saw. We played 18 Big East games. Even if he is a good analyst, with a squad like ours that wasn't a top 25 team or a tourney team, how many games did he see us (or any team of our calber) play? All I know is that we lost two guys who shot 50% from the field (Sanchez and Sampson) both of whom were assigned to the preseason 20 man NBA rosters, and that our three starting guards shot 39, 41, and 41% from the floor. Will any of our three guards show marked offensive improvement? The best bet in that category seems to be Jordan, as neither Harrison nor Greene seem considerably more complete as players than as freshman. In our entire modern history, every good team had someone who could be counted on to do consistently do good things in crunch time. Artest, Sealy, Lopez, Mullin, Berry, George Johnson, Marcus Hatten, Glen WIlliams, etc. This roster hasn't had anyone who has proven they can do that with any consistency. Last season Sampson led the team in rebounding and he didn't exactly clean the boards. Will Thomas, Obekpa, or someone else make up the deficit and more?

I'm a Mets fan, and I know that when you start the season at 0-0, that's about as good as it gets, and that hope springs eternal. But just because our players are a year older also brings to mind Casey Stengel's assessment of Greg Goosen: "This here young player is 20 years old, and in ten years he could be 30."

If our guards can put the ball in the hold in crunch time, we may get to the dance. If not, it will be another long season.
 
I hope I am wrong, but this is appears to be written by a guy who didn't actually watch a lot of St. John's games last season and instead is reading stats and going by an experienced roster.

Anyone who watched this team intently last year, saw that our defense did not make big stops, and often appeared porous. With 3 guards on the court at most times, you should have a decent steal and turnover percentage, but he is also omitting that considering a three guard offense our overall shooting percentage was not very good.

With a three guard offense our perimeter defense should be sterling, and not just pumped up with steals or turnovers which are frequently caused by guys being out of position, resulting in easy shots for opponents.

I suspect the shooting % of our opponents is often them playing down to our level.. In basketball there is an ebb and flow, and more often than not last year we couldn't hit wide open shots with any consistency, and our opponents ended up doing to same - ugly basketball.

If this team shows the capacity to close out close games, and Harrison plays in those moments like the Big East POY he could contend for, if Jordan starts to look like a first round NBA pick, and if Obekpa shows improvement that goes beyond raw potential and is transformed into pro type numbers, then we can finish on top or close to it. If not, there will likely be more of the same as last season, and we will be discussing a new coach.
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Why is it when something positive is written about our team some posters have to attack the writer. Seth Greenberg was a successful coach and is a good analyst. What he says is very true. If this team can come together and play unselfishly, we may be able to duplicate the success of the Hardy, DJ, Paris, and Burrell team. Hopefully, they learned from the adversity of last year.
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I'm not attacking the writer, but I AM questioning just how many games of ours that he saw. We played 18 Big East games. Even if he is a good analyst, with a squad like ours that wasn't a top 25 team or a tourney team, how many games did he see us (or any team of our calber) play? All I know is that we lost two guys who shot 50% from the field (Sanchez and Sampson) both of whom were assigned to the preseason 20 man NBA rosters, and that our three starting guards shot 39, 41, and 41% from the floor. Will any of our three guards show marked offensive improvement? The best bet in that category seems to be Jordan, as neither Harrison nor Greene seem considerably more complete as players than as freshman. In our entire modern history, every good team had someone who could be counted on to do consistently do good things in crunch time. Artest, Sealy, Lopez, Mullin, Berry, George Johnson, Marcus Hatten, Glen WIlliams, etc. This roster hasn't had anyone who has proven they can do that with any consistency. Last season Sampson led the team in rebounding and he didn't exactly clean the boards. Will Thomas, Obekpa, or someone else make up the deficit and more?

I'm a Mets fan, and I know that when you start the season at 0-0, that's about as good as it gets, and that hope springs eternal. But just because our players are a year older also brings to mind Casey Stengel's assessment of Greg Goosen: "This here young player is 20 years old, and in ten years he could be 30."

If our guards can put the ball in the hold in crunch time, we may get to the dance. If not, it will be another long season.
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Man Dlo gets a bad rep as a crunch time player. We havnt been very great in his time here but he has had more than a couple Big biiggg time shots. On the road at Cincy freshmen year. Game winner to beat another crappy team that year (Texas gulf coast?) home vs Notre dame sophomore year. How bout those huge shots he hit in overtime on the road vs Marquette, one 3 was from 25+ feet. Let's remember his career here is not done. Don't right him off yet.
 
Not taking sides in Greenberg debate but just because he is an ex-coach and has more expertise than the rest of us doesn't mean he gets it right that much more. Otherwise all ex coaches would be making a fortune betting on results.
 
I hope I am wrong, but this is appears to be written by a guy who didn't actually watch a lot of St. John's games last season and instead is reading stats and going by an experienced roster.

Anyone who watched this team intently last year, saw that our defense did not make big stops, and often appeared porous. With 3 guards on the court at most times, you should have a decent steal and turnover percentage, but he is also omitting that considering a three guard offense our overall shooting percentage was not very good.

With a three guard offense our perimeter defense should be sterling, and not just pumped up with steals or turnovers which are frequently caused by guys being out of position, resulting in easy shots for opponents.

I suspect the shooting % of our opponents is often them playing down to our level.. In basketball there is an ebb and flow, and more often than not last year we couldn't hit wide open shots with any consistency, and our opponents ended up doing to same - ugly basketball.

If this team shows the capacity to close out close games, and Harrison plays in those moments like the Big East POY he could contend for, if Jordan starts to look like a first round NBA pick, and if Obekpa shows improvement that goes beyond raw potential and is transformed into pro type numbers, then we can finish on top or close to it. If not, there will likely be more of the same as last season, and we will be discussing a new coach.
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Why is it when something positive is written about our team some posters have to attack the writer. Seth Greenberg was a successful coach and is a good analyst. What he says is very true. If this team can come together and play unselfishly, we may be able to duplicate the success of the Hardy, DJ, Paris, and Burrell team. Hopefully, they learned from the adversity of last year.
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I'm not attacking the writer, but I AM questioning just how many games of ours that he saw. We played 18 Big East games. Even if he is a good analyst, with a squad like ours that wasn't a top 25 team or a tourney team, how many games did he see us (or any team of our calber) play? All I know is that we lost two guys who shot 50% from the field (Sanchez and Sampson) both of whom were assigned to the preseason 20 man NBA rosters, and that our three starting guards shot 39, 41, and 41% from the floor. Will any of our three guards show marked offensive improvement? The best bet in that category seems to be Jordan, as neither Harrison nor Greene seem considerably more complete as players than as freshman. In our entire modern history, every good team had someone who could be counted on to do consistently do good things in crunch time. Artest, Sealy, Lopez, Mullin, Berry, George Johnson, Marcus Hatten, Glen WIlliams, etc. This roster hasn't had anyone who has proven they can do that with any consistency. Last season Sampson led the team in rebounding and he didn't exactly clean the boards. Will Thomas, Obekpa, or someone else make up the deficit and more?

I'm a Mets fan, and I know that when you start the season at 0-0, that's about as good as it gets, and that hope springs eternal. But just because our players are a year older also brings to mind Casey Stengel's assessment of Greg Goosen: "This here young player is 20 years old, and in ten years he could be 30."

If our guards can put the ball in the hold in crunch time, we may get to the dance. If not, it will be another long season.
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Did he see any of our games live? Probably not. But there is a thing called tape and film. Either way, I'm guessing that he knows a heck of a lot more about this team than you do.
 
This is good press, and in our situation, it's a huge plus to have as many sportswriters/sportscasters have high expectation for the team. He's a former coach and now sportscaster who knows a lot about BB and the Big East. The listing of stats is annoying because it didn't equal wins, but if nothing else it shows we underachieved last year, and Seth seems to think that will be unacceptable this year to do the same. Me too! It's a well rounded roster, now it's up to SL and staff to foster a team attitude and winning environment. To me, he's failed at creating that dynamic every year so far, but I have some blind faith that we'll see a change this season.
 
I hope I am wrong, but this is appears to be written by a guy who didn't actually watch a lot of St. John's games last season and instead is reading stats and going by an experienced roster.

Anyone who watched this team intently last year, saw that our defense did not make big stops, and often appeared porous. With 3 guards on the court at most times, you should have a decent steal and turnover percentage, but he is also omitting that considering a three guard offense our overall shooting percentage was not very good.

With a three guard offense our perimeter defense should be sterling, and not just pumped up with steals or turnovers which are frequently caused by guys being out of position, resulting in easy shots for opponents.

I suspect the shooting % of our opponents is often them playing down to our level.. In basketball there is an ebb and flow, and more often than not last year we couldn't hit wide open shots with any consistency, and our opponents ended up doing to same - ugly basketball.

If this team shows the capacity to close out close games, and Harrison plays in those moments like the Big East POY he could contend for, if Jordan starts to look like a first round NBA pick, and if Obekpa shows improvement that goes beyond raw potential and is transformed into pro type numbers, then we can finish on top or close to it. If not, there will likely be more of the same as last season, and we will be discussing a new coach.
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Why is it when something positive is written about our team some posters have to attack the writer. Seth Greenberg was a successful coach and is a good analyst. What he says is very true. If this team can come together and play unselfishly, we may be able to duplicate the success of the Hardy, DJ, Paris, and Burrell team. Hopefully, they learned from the adversity of last year.
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I'm not attacking the writer, but I AM questioning just how many games of ours that he saw. We played 18 Big East games. Even if he is a good analyst, with a squad like ours that wasn't a top 25 team or a tourney team, how many games did he see us (or any team of our calber) play? All I know is that we lost two guys who shot 50% from the field (Sanchez and Sampson) both of whom were assigned to the preseason 20 man NBA rosters, and that our three starting guards shot 39, 41, and 41% from the floor. Will any of our three guards show marked offensive improvement? The best bet in that category seems to be Jordan, as neither Harrison nor Greene seem considerably more complete as players than as freshman. In our entire modern history, every good team had someone who could be counted on to do consistently do good things in crunch time. Artest, Sealy, Lopez, Mullin, Berry, George Johnson, Marcus Hatten, Glen WIlliams, etc. This roster hasn't had anyone who has proven they can do that with any consistency. Last season Sampson led the team in rebounding and he didn't exactly clean the boards. Will Thomas, Obekpa, or someone else make up the deficit and more?

I'm a Mets fan, and I know that when you start the season at 0-0, that's about as good as it gets, and that hope springs eternal. But just because our players are a year older also brings to mind Casey Stengel's assessment of Greg Goosen: "This here young player is 20 years old, and in ten years he could be 30."

If our guards can put the ball in the hold in crunch time, we may get to the dance. If not, it will be another long season.
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Did he see any of our games live? Probably not. But there is a thing called tape and film. Either way, I'm guessing that he knows a heck of a lot more about this team than you do.
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Wow. You ended your post in a disgusting way. Greenberg has the entire college basketball nation to analyze. So you seriously think he knows more about St. John's than any of us who all eat, sleep, and breathe St. John's? But you go out of your way to make a snotty remark like that to Beast. Everyone just needs to relax. We are already jumping down each other's throats and it's September. There will be plenty of time for this when the season starts and we start out 0-6 in big east play!
 
The reasons last year why did not do well were:
1) Jordan 's aunt died.
2)Lavin's father died.
3) C.O. refusal to play.
4)Starting line up changes.
5)Disappointed in the play of Sanchez and Hooper who were build up preseason.

Let's pray that the team does not have any tradegies this year,they play as a team and the new players play above our expectations.
 
The reasons last year why did not do well were:
1) Jordan 's aunt died.
2)Lavin's father died.
3) C.O. refusal to play.
4)Starting line up changes.
5)Disappointed in the play of Sanchez and Hooper who were build up preseason.

Let's pray that the team does not have any tradegies this year,they play as a team and the new players play above our expectations.
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With all due respect frank, let's not make excuses for the team and coaches last year.

1) Jordan didn't even miss a game due to his aunt. I recall him not starting the Xavier game because of it, but he played. And it doesn't matter anyways, that game was there for the taking and everybody let us down that night, including DLo.

2) Lavins father died two years ago, so I don't see how that hurt us last year

3) Obekpa only refused to play on the last game. And it is still unknown whether or not his presence would've won us the game.

We didn't do well last year because of a lack of inspiration between the players and the coaches, everyone in the program assumed we were going to be good. We woke up after the 0 and 5 start to BE play, and played very well. But it was too late. The players started out the year thinking they were better than they were, and Lavin thought he could screw around with the lineups and it wouldn't hurt us. So yes, one of your points were valid, but the rest were not.
 
Seth Greenberg aside we have not proven in the last 3 years we can play winning basketball. Tough D, tougher rebounding, going hard after loose balls, sharing the ball. That doesn't mean we can't, but we haven't. IMO, the only really proven players we have are Harrison and Greene and Greene is limited. Jordan and Obekpa remain potentials, Thomas unproven, Pointer and Branch erratic. I am not saying we will not or cannot have a good team, we certainly could. But it takes more than looking good in a highlight film to be a good player and good team at this level. It takes a committment to winning, willingness to sacrifice to achieve same, and enough trust in your teammates to play a team game. So far we have not seen that; I hope we do this year.
 
The reasons last year why did not do well were:
1) Jordan 's aunt died.
2)Lavin's father died.
3) C.O. refusal to play.
4)Starting line up changes.
5)Disappointed in the play of Sanchez and Hooper who were build up preseason.

Let's pray that the team does not have any tradegies this year,they play as a team and the new players play above our expectations.
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With all due respect frank, let's not make excuses for the team and coaches last year.

1) Jordan didn't even miss a game due to his aunt. I recall him not starting the Xavier game because of it, but he played. And it doesn't matter anyways, that game was there for the taking and everybody let us down that night, including DLo.

2) Lavins father died two years ago, so I don't see how that hurt us last year

3) Obekpa only refused to play on the last game. And it is still unknown whether or not his presence would've won us the game.

We didn't do well last year because of a lack of inspiration between the players and the coaches, everyone in the program assumed we were going to be good. We woke up after the 0 and 5 start to BE play, and played very well. But it was too late. The players started out the year thinking they were better than they were, and Lavin thought he could screw around with the lineups and it wouldn't hurt us. So yes, one of your points were valid, but the rest were not.
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I think that the main reason the team didn't do well last year was because of Sampson and Orlando playing to showcase themselves for the NBA rather than playing for the team.
 
I hope I am wrong, but this is appears to be written by a guy who didn't actually watch a lot of St. John's games last season and instead is reading stats and going by an experienced roster.

Anyone who watched this team intently last year, saw that our defense did not make big stops, and often appeared porous. With 3 guards on the court at most times, you should have a decent steal and turnover percentage, but he is also omitting that considering a three guard offense our overall shooting percentage was not very good.

With a three guard offense our perimeter defense should be sterling, and not just pumped up with steals or turnovers which are frequently caused by guys being out of position, resulting in easy shots for opponents.

I suspect the shooting % of our opponents is often them playing down to our level.. In basketball there is an ebb and flow, and more often than not last year we couldn't hit wide open shots with any consistency, and our opponents ended up doing to same - ugly basketball.

If this team shows the capacity to close out close games, and Harrison plays in those moments like the Big East POY he could contend for, if Jordan starts to look like a first round NBA pick, and if Obekpa shows improvement that goes beyond raw potential and is transformed into pro type numbers, then we can finish on top or close to it. If not, there will likely be more of the same as last season, and we will be discussing a new coach.
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Why is it when something positive is written about our team some posters have to attack the writer. Seth Greenberg was a successful coach and is a good analyst. What he says is very true. If this team can come together and play unselfishly, we may be able to duplicate the success of the Hardy, DJ, Paris, and Burrell team. Hopefully, they learned from the adversity of last year.
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I'm not attacking the writer, but I AM questioning just how many games of ours that he saw. We played 18 Big East games. Even if he is a good analyst, with a squad like ours that wasn't a top 25 team or a tourney team, how many games did he see us (or any team of our calber) play? All I know is that we lost two guys who shot 50% from the field (Sanchez and Sampson) both of whom were assigned to the preseason 20 man NBA rosters, and that our three starting guards shot 39, 41, and 41% from the floor. Will any of our three guards show marked offensive improvement? The best bet in that category seems to be Jordan, as neither Harrison nor Greene seem considerably more complete as players than as freshman. In our entire modern history, every good team had someone who could be counted on to do consistently do good things in crunch time. Artest, Sealy, Lopez, Mullin, Berry, George Johnson, Marcus Hatten, Glen WIlliams, etc. This roster hasn't had anyone who has proven they can do that with any consistency. Last season Sampson led the team in rebounding and he didn't exactly clean the boards. Will Thomas, Obekpa, or someone else make up the deficit and more?

I'm a Mets fan, and I know that when you start the season at 0-0, that's about as good as it gets, and that hope springs eternal. But just because our players are a year older also brings to mind Casey Stengel's assessment of Greg Goosen: "This here young player is 20 years old, and in ten years he could be 30."

If our guards can put the ball in the hold in crunch time, we may get to the dance. If not, it will be another long season.
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Did he see any of our games live? Probably not. But there is a thing called tape and film. Either way, I'm guessing that he knows a heck of a lot more about this team than you do.
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Wow. You ended your post in a disgusting way. Greenberg has the entire college basketball nation to analyze. So you seriously think he knows more about St. John's than any of us who all eat, sleep, and breathe St. John's? But you go out of your way to make a snotty remark like that to Beast. Everyone just needs to relax. We are already jumping down each other's throats and it's September. There will be plenty of time for this when the season starts and we start out 0-6 in big east play!
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Do I think he knows more about St Johns University and the team (ie. history, who our current players are and their lifestory)? Absolutely not. Do I think he is better at breaking down our game film and giving an assessment of what he watched? Absolutely.

Even though posters on here 'eat, sleep, and breathe St Johns', no one on here even comes close to his ability and intelligence to analyze a basketball game/team/players.
 
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