Season Tickets

Johnnies317 said:
Mom and pop operation in the ticket office. It’s embarrassing and still shows how far we have still go even with some improvements. You can put these points into software and have it calculated in seconds.
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I've spoken to them about the delays. The problem.is that sources of priority points are stored in different databases, which works for the purpose of university advancement but not consolidated for the purpose of assigning priority points. For exsmple, for acclunting purposes things like planned giving may be stored in sepsrate databases since it is not an actualized donation. However for the purpose of calculating seating priority points are given a value.

I think the university is aware that aggregating, storing, and reporting data is something that needs (vast) improvement. Can only guess with the focus on major gifts as a percentage of overall giving, that information could be stored on a very small spreadsheet and serve a purpose.

Last minute rush of donations for the purpose of seating priority is an indicator that a significant number of season ticket holders flinched. I haven't inquired about increases, but if other schools are increasing prices by 15-20%, with a shift to more MSG games, we are likely at 20% or more.

In our case it's not only the price of success but the reality of paying to watch professional college basketball. It's great that Bill J ($32.5 mm), Repole (NIL) and a few others have pledged major gifts, but it's very clear every STH is going to pay more.
 
Beasts of the East said:
I've spoken to them about the delays. The problem.is that sources of priority points are stored in different databases, which works for the purpose of university advancement but not consolidated for the purpose of assigning priority points. For exsmple, for acclunting purposes things like planned giving may be stored in sepsrate databases since it is not an actualized donation. However for the purpose of calculating seating priority points are given a value.

I think the university is aware that aggregating, storing, and reporting data is something that needs (vast) improvement. Can only guess with the focus on major gifts as a percentage of overall giving, that information could be stored on a very small spreadsheet and serve a purpose.

Last minute rush of donations for the purpose of seating priority is an indicator that a significant number of season ticket holders flinched. I haven't inquired about increases, but if other schools are increasing prices by 15-20%, with a shift to more MSG games, we are likely at 20% or more.

In our case it's not only the price of success but the reality of paying to watch professional college basketball. It's great that Bill J ($32.5 mm), Repole (NIL) and a few others have pledged major gifts, but it's very clear every STH is going to pay more.
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Paying more, when the product is vastly improved is worth it. Paying less and finishing in the bottom of the Big East as happened so often was no fun. Not having your team in the Big Dance year after year after year, even less so.

Growing used to the idea of more $$$ being shelled out but being relevant.
 
BrookJersey Redmen said:
Paying more, when the product is vastly improved is worth it. Paying less and finishing in the bottom of the Big East as happened so often was no fun. Not having your team in the Big Dance year after year after year, even less so.

Growing used to the idea of more $$$ being shelled out but being relevant.
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I just find it much harder at this point in the season to be as excited, with a roster filled with nouveau riche 1 year players who have less in common with other students than ever.

Seinfeld does a bit about rooting for your favorite pro team where he concludes that we are really rooting for uniforms, not the players in them.

In the past, an SJU student may have one or more players in a class over the course of his or her 4 years. Back then with a roster of local kids, they may have even been friends in hs.

Even the change from last year is dramatic - Wilcher, Brady, Vince, Luis each rotation players with eiligibility, all gone. It was fun getting to see them develop, meeting them at events, chatting about things other than basketball. Those days mostly gone for good, and the exception will be an occasional 4 year player.

All something to get used to I guess. I'm sure winning and being ranked will erase some lamentations.

But, still, a lot of this new system doesn't feel right.
 
Beasts of the East said:
I just find it much harder at this point in the season to be as excited, with a roster filled with nouveau riche 1 year players who have less in common with other students than ever.

Seinfeld does a bit about rooting for your favorite pro team where he concludes that we are really rooting for uniforms, not the players in them.

In the past, an SJU student may have one or more players in a class over the course of his or her 4 years. Back then with a roster of local kids, they may have even been friends in hs.

Even the change from last year is dramatic - Wilcher, Brady, Vince, Luis each rotation players with eiligibility, all gone. It was fun getting to see them develop, meeting them at events, chatting about things other than basketball. Those days mostly gone for good, and the exception will be an occasional 4 year player.

All something to get used to I guess. I'm sure winning and being ranked will erase some lamentations.

But, still, a lot of this new system doesn't feel right.
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CRP says play for the name on the front not the name on the back.

Seinfeld is right, I root for the name on the front not on the back, always have, always will.

Having attended University when it had a Staten Island Campus, never had a player in class and not friends in High School with anyone D1 good (except Mike Dunleavy Sr., but he went to South Carolina).

Beast, even before NILs, we had lots of great short-tenured players, a virtual Who's Who of St. John's star players only played here two years.

So, we all kind of got used to seeing our star players leave after 2 years, and some came from J.C., and had to leave after 2 years.

We only had The Truth Walter Berry two seasons.

Two year greats, Ron Artest and Erick Barkley, so many others.

Hey, before freshman could play varsity, even our best pros had three-year careers, not four.

With the portal, NILs and professional-level salaries, we will have our share of one-and-dones, unfortunately, a la Duke and the Blue Bloods, Liam McNeeleys of the world.

Ian Jackson is a perfect example. I heard him interviewed about leaving NC and going into the portal, and let's just say, it was not "roses and flowers" for deciding to come to St. John's, it was a business decision.

Brave New World.
 
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BrookJersey Redmen said:
CRP says play for the name on the front not the name on the back.

Seinfeld is right, I root for the name on the front not on the back, always have, always will.

Having attended University when it had a Staten Island Campus, never had a player in class and not friends in High School with anyone D1 good (except Mike Dunleavy Sr., but he went to South Carolina).

Beast, even before NILs, we had lots of great short-tenured players, a virtual Who's Who of St. John's star players only played here two years.

So, we all kind of got used to seeing our star players leave after 2 years, and some came from J.C., and had to leave after 2 years.

We only had The Truth Walter Berry two seasons.

Two year greats, Ron Artest and Erick Barkley, so many others.

Hey, before freshman could play varsity, even our best pros had three-year careers, not four.

With the portal, NILs and professional-level salaries, we will have our share of one-and-dones, unfortunately, a la Duke and the Blue Bloods, Liam McNeeleys of the world.

Ian Jackson is a perfect example. I heard him interviewed about leaving NC and going into the portal, and let's just say, it was not "roses and flowers" for deciding to come to St. John's, it was a business decision.

Brave New World.
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After reviewing my priority points today it appears that with 11,475 points I am in the top 49%. Does that sound accurate?
 
rcatalano said:
After reviewing my priority points today it appears that with 11,475 points I am in the top 49%. Does that sound accurate?
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Don't think the points are updated yet (at least mine aren't), so not sure where things will ultimately shake out.
 
As of this morning (6/27), my points have yet to be updated. Not sure where others stand, but very frustrating.
 
mkras99 said:
As of this morning (6/27), my points have yet to be updated. Not sure where others stand, but very frustrating.
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I would say unless you are jumping 10-20% up the ladder in terms of percentile, it wont make a ton of difference.

I have STH friends without deep pockets who have committed thousands of dollars in the hopes of keeping their seats.

I just hope it works for everyone, and I hope there isn't buyers remorse for making sizeable contributions that in the end were msy not prove to be all that necessary.
 
Beasts of the East said:
I would say unless you are jumping 10-20% up the ladder in terms of percentile, it wont make a ton of difference.

I have STH friends without deep pockets who have committed thousands of dollars in the hopes of keeping their seats.

I just hope it works for everyone, and I hope there isn't buyers remorse for making sizeable contributions that in the end were msy not prove to be all that necessary.
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I’m short a lot lot lot of points right now.
 
BrookJersey Redmen said:
CRP says play for the name on the front not the name on the back.

Seinfeld is right, I root for the name on the front not on the back, always have, always will.
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This has been been and will always be the case for college sports…its the allegiance to the school that drives college athletics fandom…if it were the Binghamton Rumble Ponies nobody would pay much attention or $
 
passitback said:
Patience... The AD will figure this out. Just gotta give it time.
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Think about this: MSG seats 19,000. CA seats 6000. That means there can be 2 different packages offered.
1. Both venue package:5500 seats. *
2. MSG package: 18,500 seats. *
* allotments for special guests
Do you really think we will have 18,500 season ticket holders?
I believe this was done to of course raise money and also to slow down the secondary market (the Yukon fans).
Section One fans are the ones who really need heavy donations.
Section Two fans (like me) should be fine with decent donations.
Section Three will still have tickets, but not get CA tickets.
It’s just math. And supply and demand.
 
fan since 65 said:
I think the annoyance is related to the fact they probably set an uncertain time frame and just makes it frustrating when they have to delay. It's perfectly reasonable to expect that they ultimately get it right but they should have been more conservative from the start.
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Confident he was being sarcastic.

Slow and right is ok.

Fast and wrong less ok.

Slow and wrong worst of all.
 
Ralph318! said:
Think about this: MSG seats 19,000. CA seats 6000. That means there can be 2 different packages offered.
1. Both venue package:5500 seats. *
2. MSG package: 18,500 seats. *
* allotments for special guests
Do you really think we will have 18,500 season ticket holders?
I believe this was done to of course raise money and also to slow down the secondary market (the Yukon fans).
Section One fans are the ones who really need heavy donations.
Section Two fans (like me) should be fine with decent donations.
Section Three will still have tickets, but not get CA tickets.
It’s just math. And supply and demand.
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No.

We'll see how the ST situation unfolds moving forward.
 
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